Mr. Basketball finalists announced - Royce included, Rodney not included

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Who is Jordair Jett? Never heard of him. Where's he going to college?
 

Wow! As a personal fan of Rodney, I'm a little disapointed.

I'm still getting used to this state - can someone explain to me what the criteria is? I just think it's weird that the best (or should I say most highly recruited) player doesn't always win these things - i.e. Sonie getting it on the football side over McNeal, Alipate, Hageman, Garin, etc.
 

Sonie probably was the best high school player. Those other kids you mentioned all probably had inferior stats. I know they were the most highly recruited but McNeal and Alipate in particular had rather pedestrian statistics.

I love Rodney and think he will be a great player for us but I'm not surprised by his omission.
 



Zeppelin Gopher said:
Sonie probably was the best high school player. Those other kids you mentioned all probably had inferior stats. I know they were the most highly recruited but McNeal and Alipate in particular had rather pedestrian statistics.

I love Rodney and think he will be a great player for us but I'm not surprised by his omission.
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I know that both McNeal and Alipate didn't have great stats this year, in comparison to their Jr. years - so that makes sense. However, I think Rodney have very good stats. Just by glancing, I couldn't find them, but I'm pretty sure he was averaging over 20 ppg.

I would beg to guess, by stats alone, they were better than Royce's, simply because there was so much talent on Hopkins, and Royce shared the wealth.

If anyone can find Rodney's stats - that would be helpful in my argument that he should have been a finalist.
 

GopherLady said:
Wow! As a personal fan of Rodney, I'm a little disapointed.

I'm still getting used to this state - can someone explain to me what the criteria is? I just think it's weird that the best (or should I say most highly recruited) player doesn't always win these things - i.e. Sonie getting it on the football side over McNeal, Alipate, Hageman, Garin, etc.
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A good example to understand this is Khalid El Amin. He dominated college basketball and won awards for how good he was in college at UCONN. But that in itself does not mean he translated into a great NBA prospect - he was a late draft pick and ended up playing just a few games in the NBA. Same thing here, just at a different level. I agree with Zepplin that the award goes to the guy that is the best player in high school, not necessarily who translates into the best college prospect.

Obviously it's a different deal for the McDonalds team and all star games like that. They're looking strictly at college potential.
 

Jordair Jett

...this kid is VERY good. He's a 6-2 guard, who can really go to the basket! Very well built...go watch him in the tourney this week.

He is going to PREP school next year out east, and I expect he will have a number of offers if he gets his academics straight. He is definitely someone Tubby and his underlings should not lose track of.

A very athletic player who if his jumper develops will play at a high level.

I know others may not like him, but I'm telling you he could be a nice college player.
 

Royce And Rodney Are 1-2 Best Players In MN This Year

Royce the best player.

Mr. Basketball isn't always the best player.
 



It is supposed to go to the best High School player, not the most college potential or highly recruited. Rodney had a pretty bad end to the season and I don't know if he had over 15 in the past month. There we're some big problems on that Cooper team this year and watching that game against Osseo, they looked like they just wanted the season to be done.

Jett will be an interesting kid to watch. MN went and scouted him last year at state and didn't like him and I don't think they really have given him a second look this year, didn't have room anyway. We'll see if things change if he does well in prep school.

little suprised Nate Wolters didn't make the final five. I think it will be between Bruesewitz and Dower. Too much negativity towards Hopkins around the state for one of there kids to win it.
 

Friend Of Tubby said:
Royce the best player.

Mr. Basketball isn't always the best player.
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Royce is the best player, but Rodney is not the second best player. Rodney is a better prospect than he is player right now. He has unbelievable athleticism and potential, but needs to further develop his skills.
 

JohnnyGopher said:
It is supposed to go to the best High School player, not the most college potential or highly recruited. Rodney had a pretty bad end to the season and I don't know if he had over 15 in the past month. There we're some big problems on that Cooper team this year and watching that game against Osseo, they looked like they just wanted the season to be done.

Jett will be an interesting kid to watch. MN went and scouted him last year at state and didn't like him and I don't think they really have given him a second look this year, didn't have room anyway. We'll see if things change if he does well in prep school.

little suprised Nate Wolters didn't make the final five. I think it will be between Bruesewitz and Dower. Too much negativity towards Hopkins around the state for one of there kids to win it.
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It wouldn't surprise me if Hopkins envy kept White from winning it. Hard to pay that much attention though after the Cody Schilling was snubbed for the award last year.
 

UWOle said:
Royce is the best player, but Rodney is not the second best player. Rodney is a better prospect than he is player right now. He has unbelievable athleticism and potential, but needs to further develop his skills.
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You said (better) what I meant.
 



Personally, don't really care about any of these postseason awards. They're nice and all, but I'm more interested in what happens once they get to campus (or in the case of players like Royce, Rodney, Bruiser, Lockett, Cowels, and Dower, their respective campuses :p).

Overall, I'm just really excited to see how this entire class of Minnesota-produced talent shapes up at the next level!!!
 

SelectionSunday said:
Who is Jordair Jett? Never heard of him. Where's he going to college?
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Jett plays for St. Bernards and will be in the State 2A tourney this weekend. Very quick guard who can really score. At one time I think he had a Baylor offer but, like others said, he's off to prep school.

Johnny, I know Saul was at the Heights/Bernards game when Thomas went off. Probably there to watch Jacob more but Jett had a good game that night as well, so maybe he's still on their radar.

Jett definitely deserves to be on that list. I really don't think Raymond does actually. Lockett is just as important to that team, or more important, than Raymond is. He's also as good a player too. I'm glad Rodney isn't either, because it would be for hype on not his h.s. career. (Gopherlady, i'd be shocked if he avg. 20 pts. this year.) Wolters has a good case to be on there instead of Raymond imo.
 

I'm still getting used to this state - can someone explain to me what the criteria is? I just think it's weird that the best (or should I say most highly recruited) player doesn't always win these things - i.e. Sonie getting it on the football side over McNeal, Alipate, Hageman, Garin, etc.[/QUOTE]

All that you need to know is that Cody Schilling didn't win the award last year. That still steams me. What else could the kid have done? He led his team to two state titles. He owns the state's career scoring and assist records. In his senior season, he shot over 90% from the FT line, over 70% from the field and over 50% from the three point line. I saw him play in person 8-10 times and never saw him take a bad shot--he was incredibly unselfish. If he didn't win it, how does any outstate kid have a chance? It should be the Metro Minnesota Mr. Basketball award.
 

gopher24 said:
All that you need to know is that Cody Schilling didn't win the award last year. That still steams me. What else could the kid have done? He led his team to two state titles. He owns the state's career scoring and assist records. In his senior season, he shot over 90% from the FT line, over 70% from the field and over 50% from the three point line. I saw him play in person 8-10 times and never saw him take a bad shot--he was incredibly unselfish. If he didn't win it, how does any outstate kid have a chance? It should be the Metro Minnesota Mr. Basketball award.
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All that is fine and dandy, but it's going to be hard for any kid at such a small school to win Mr. Basketball for the simple reason that these small schools don't play anybody.

Put Cody Schilling in the metro on a Top 15 team; he'd be a very good player, probably even his team's leading scorer, but no way he'd put up anything close to those kind of numbers. It's like Noreen this year at MTS; he can score 40 pts/game if he wants, but he's still playing in class A against teams like Math & Science Academy who they beat 2 weeks ago 155-61. Does scoring 45 in a game like that mean anything?

Don't get me wrong, there are some very good A and AA teams that have competed with the big dogs in years' past, but the level of talent they play 23 of 25 games a year just isn't even close to being top-notch basketball.

It's similar to college basketball; Blake Griffin averages 25/12 in the Big 12. Some kid in the MIAC may get 45 and 20 every game and set the NCAA scoring record. Match the teams up and it'd be a 35 pt blowout. Griffin would still get NCAA Player of the Year because he plays the top talent at the highest level night in and night out.

It's unfortunate for kids like Schilling (who averaged 11/5 this year as a freshman at Augustana), but it's reality.
 

Mr. Basketball

Bruesewitz will probably win this award too. Even though Royce has the most talent, the circumstances of coming to Hopkins and the fact that his team would be #1 in the state with or without him are difficult to overcome.

Sam Dower had a great year, but I think Bruesewitz got the better end of head-to-head matchups in both their junior and senior years, so that seems to give him an edge.
 

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