Movies that hold up vs. those that don't

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On the topic of cussing in movies/tv, what are your thoughts on Deadwood? Effing this, effing that, effing every effing thing that effing comes up in the effing dialog. I watch and wonder how historically accurate this depiction is of the time/area. I feel like it does take away from the show in some regard. Same with the dialog in Peaky Blinders, but not the extent of Deadwood. Not against the language, but it does seem weird sometimes.
 

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On the topic of cussing in movies/tv, what are your thoughts on Deadwood? Effing this, effing that, effing every effing thing that effing comes up in the effing dialog. I watch and wonder how historically accurate this depiction is of the time/area. I feel like it does take away from the show in some regard. Same with the dialog in Peaky Blinders, but not the extent of Deadwood. Not against the language, but it does seem weird sometimes.

It's a little over the top. Doesn't taken away from the show. Deadwood is great.
 

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Continuing with my workout/bike movie exploration....I found a vcr version of SpinalTap for $2. I have seen it at least 10 times since 1984 but not for at least 15 years. I was pretty surprised I remembered about 90% of the dialogue. Still one of the great comedies ever. Soooo many great lines and scenes. Has held up fantastically especially with the persistent decline of rock n roll.
 

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Continuing with my workout/bike movie exploration....I found a vcr version of SpinalTap for $2. I have seen it at least 10 times since 1984 but not for at least 15 years. I was pretty surprised I remembered about 90% of the dialogue. Still one of the great comedies ever. Soooo many great lines and scenes. Has held up fantastically especially with the persistent decline of rock n roll.
One of my favorite scenes ever
 



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Continuing with my workout/bike movie exploration....I found a vcr version of SpinalTap for $2. I have seen it at least 10 times since 1984 but not for at least 15 years. I was pretty surprised I remembered about 90% of the dialogue. Still one of the great comedies ever. Soooo many great lines and scenes. Has held up fantastically especially with the persistent decline of rock n roll.

I watched it for the first time all the way through on HBO Max a few weeks back. Really funny movie.
 

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Watched 1996's, Big Night, for the umpteenth time. One of my favorites off all-time. Been many years and it still delivers as much now as it did when I saw it at the Uptown theater when it came out.

One of the best food movies ever imo. If you like Italian food or are Italian (I' m half)...this this a must see. Stanley Tucci, Tony Shalhoub and others star. Great soundtrack to boot.

Ciao!
 

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Watched 1996's, Big Night, for the umpteenth time. One of my favorites off all-time. Been many years and it still delivers as much now as it did when I saw it at the Uptown theater when it came out.

One of the best food movies ever imo. If you like Italian food or are Italian (I' m half)...this this a must see. Stanley Tucci, Tony Shalhoub and others star. Great soundtrack to boot.

Ciao!
It's been years since I've seen it, but two things still resonate with me--the soundtrack and that final scene of the brothers eating the meal together--it was quite beautiful as I recall.
 

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It's been years since I've seen it, but two things still resonate with me--the soundtrack and that final scene of the brothers eating the meal together--it was quite beautiful as I recall.
You are correct. It is beautiful.
 



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I watched Office Space for the first time in over a decade. I think I enjoyed it even more than I did when I saw it in the 2000s.

New appreciation for his buddy/neighbor Lawrence. He's gold every scene, even when off camera.
 

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Lone Star, watched it last night for the first time in a few years and it feels like it was made last week. Still terrific, what an ensemble cast. I'll let this guys do the talking...


Beyond that, a couple of things that struck me upon revisiting:

- Matthew McConaughey I felt in my memory was a really big role, but he's actually only in 3 scenes. For so early in his career it did show he had range when paired with another movie set in Texas, Dazed and Confused.
- Frances McDormand's performance has to be among the best ever for an actor who's only in 1 scene. Maybe with Alec Baldwin in Glengarry Glen Ross? I think that was only a single scene.
- Kris Kristofferson as Charlie Wade, what a villain. Up there with the warden in Shawshank, in my book.
 

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The Untouchables, not as great as I remembered it. It was ok, but way more over the top then needed to be. Great soundtrack though (Ennio Morricone).

For a better show about Capone, perhaps I will revisit Boardwalk Empire.
 

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I saw Silence of the Lambs in the theater tonight as a 30th Anniversary screening. Hadn't seen it since it's original release, not remembering several plot details it felt really fresh. Holds up big time, every scene is fantastic. Nothing wasted, just chilling.

The performances by Hopkins & Foster are truly iconic that stand the test of time. 3 decades later, those 2 still haven't lost their fastball and still rack up awards/nominations. "Quid pro quo."

A couple of interesting notes, Hopkins based his voice and tone from HAL/2001 A Space Odyssey. Both Scott Glenn/FBI Agent and Ted Levine/Buffalo Bill portrayed Alan Shepard in The Right Stuff and From the Earth to the Moon respectively.

I'm guessing not a lot of parents have named their kid "Hannibal" post 1991.
 



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I saw Silence of the Lambs in the theater tonight as a 30th Anniversary screening. Hadn't seen it since it's original release, not remembering several plot details it felt really fresh. Holds up big time, every scene is fantastic. Nothing wasted, just chilling.

The performances by Hopkins & Foster are truly iconic that stand the test of time. 3 decades later, those 2 still haven't lost their fastball and still rack up awards/nominations. "Quid pro quo."

A couple of interesting notes, Hopkins based his voice and tone from HAL/2001 A Space Odyssey. Both Scott Glenn/FBI Agent and Ted Levine/Buffalo Bill portrayed Alan Shepard in The Right Stuff and From the Earth to the Moon respectively.

I'm guessing not a lot of parents have named their kid "Hannibal" post 1991.

The only Hannibal I even know is Hannibal Buress.
 

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watched Up in Smoke.

i think most modern sensibilities would say that it is "problematic" i probably laughed as much as i did when i first watched it.

 

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I re-watched Lost in Translation, hadn't viewed it in 10+ years. I know I liked it at first, but perhaps have even greater appreciation for it now. I think it's really good.

Looking back, knowing that Sean Penn has had better roles and movies than Mystic River, I wish Bill Murry had got the Best Actor Academy Award that year.

Sofia Coppola did get Best Screenplay, well earned.
 

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I re-watched Lost in Translation, hadn't viewed it in 10+ years. I know I liked it at first, but perhaps have even greater appreciation for it now. I think it's really good.

Looking back, knowing that Sean Penn has had better roles and movies than Mystic River, I wish Bill Murry had got the Best Actor Academy Award that year.

Sofia Coppola did get Best Screenplay, well earned.
Great soundtrack with Lost in Translation as well. Kevin Shields (My Bloody Valentine) made a mini-comeback with it.
 

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Hopkins wasn't on screen all that much as a whole for Silence of the Lambs. He plays an excellent part, so you don't forget him. The other movie that I haven't seen mentioned that I always enjoy is Dirty Dozen (perhaps I missed it).
 
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Hopkins wasn't on screen all that much as a whole for Silence of the Lambs. He plays an excellent part, so you don't forget him. The other movie that I haven't seen mentioned that I always enjoy is Dirty Dozen (perhaps I missed it).
When I saw it this most recent time, it did strike me about how little actual screen time Hopkins has in the movie. Yet is presence is always felt (especially on a repeat watch).
 

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Hopkins wasn't on screen all that much as a whole for Silence of the Lambs. He plays an excellent part, so you don't forget him. The other movie that I haven't seen mentioned that I always enjoy is Dirty Dozen (perhaps I missed it).
The Dirty Dozen was well before my time but I know it very well. My dad used to watch it all the time. I'll still watch it if it's on. Every time I see Donald Sutherland in movies I think of his character.
 

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I watched To Die For last night, it holds up really well. Amazing at how ahead of it's time it was in 1995 as far as fascination with celebrity, given it was pre-internet/social media explosion.

It's still one of Nicole Kidman's best performances. As dark of a theme the movie was, Buck Henry slipped it some great comedic touches with the script. Gus Van Sant was on quite a run at that time, including Drugstore Cowboy, My Own Private Idaho & Good Will Hunting.
 

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I watched To Die For last night, it holds up really well. Amazing at how ahead of it's time it was in 1995 as far as fascination with celebrity, given it was pre-internet/social media explosion.

It's still one of Nicole Kidman's best performances. As dark of a theme the movie was, Buck Henry slipped it some great comedic touches with the script. Gus Van Sant was on quite a run at that time, including Drugstore Cowboy, My Own Private Idaho & Good Will Hunting.
It's been a while since I've watched, but every time I watch 1975's Network, I find myself astounded at how prescient the themes from the movie are, and ever more relevant it is with each passing year.
 

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Apollo 13 gets better each time I see it. The last time (several weeks ago), I decided that it's one of the great American films.
 


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I watched To Die For last night, it holds up really well. Amazing at how ahead of it's time it was in 1995 as far as fascination with celebrity, given it was pre-internet/social media explosion.

It's still one of Nicole Kidman's best performances. As dark of a theme the movie was, Buck Henry slipped it some great comedic touches with the script. Gus Van Sant was on quite a run at that time, including Drugstore Cowboy, My Own Private Idaho & Good Will Hunting.
GREAT movie.
 

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So when we refer to movies “holding up” are we mainly discussing if they’re acceptable in today’s overly sensitive cancel culture? Or if they stood the test of time from an effects, storyline, entertainment standpoint?
 

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It makes a great double feature with The Right Stuff.

I love the Right Stuff. One of the great movie scores.

And I just love Levon Helm's narration. "There was a demon that lived in the air...."
Levon was a really good actor - when he wasn't being one of the greatest drummers and singers of all time.

Speaking of movies that hold up, "The Last Waltz" is still one of the best concert films of all time, while also serving as a mini-documentary on The Band.
 

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The Right Stuff is my favorite movie. Agree on Levon Helm's contribution as Ridley/narrator.

He wasn't the only nontraditional actor cast in the film. NFL HoFamer Anthony Munoz played Gonzalez, a hospital orderly. Also the real Chuck Yeager makes a cameo playing a patron at Pancho's.

As for Helm, this always comes to mind...

 





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