Miami basketball player publicly threatens to transfer if his NIL deal is not increased after a new transfer in to Miami got a higher deal

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Soon, you might see that certain players will learn an essential element of contract law: that NIL contracts, like all contracts, are bilateral agreements that cannot be treated as unilateral gifts. Default provisions, remedies upon default, etc., kind of depends on the nature/vindictiveness of the booster(s) you have thrown in with. Be careful.
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You’re going to have to do better than that, Buckeye fans. Story on Smith-Njigba and Ohio State NIL status


Some (nearly meaningless) average numbers:

“Stroud and Smith-Njigba’s deals join a growing list of NIL deals for Ohio State student-athletes.

The university previously said most deals are in the $25 to $500 range, though the average deal is $4,777, a figure raised by “a few” six-figure NIL agreements.

According to updated data provided by the OSU, there are 849 NIL deals with its student-athletes, 222 of which are with football players. The football deals total more than $2.9 million and average $13,284, well above the national average of $2,703.”


The averages are being reported precisely to be a red herring and throw people off the scent.

Yeah ... we should definitely be averaging together a sophomore on the swimming team with an All-American football player. Makes total sense to report that ...
 

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just don't get into that "mean" and "median" stuff. I always had trouble with that.......
 




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Just think if it was back 15-20 years ago here, and this was in place...Happy hour at the Big Ten, aka Brickhouse, brought to you by the Brinkhaus brothers!
 

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Good article on NIL.

 











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Here is the NCAA definition of a “booster”, which seems pretty broad. Laundering money through a third party or non-booster family member seems easy enough. The NCAA is planning to enforce rules going forward - interesting concept. Maybe just for the “little people”.




“Boosters play a role in providing student-athletes with a positive experience through their enthusiastic efforts. They can support teams and athletics departments through donations of time and financial resources which help student-athletes succeed on and off the playing field.

Boosters, referred to by the NCAA as “representatives of the institution’s athletic interests,” include anyone who has:

  • Provided a donation in order to obtain season tickets for any sport at the university.
  • Participated in or has been a member of an organization promoting the university’s athletics programs.
  • Made financial contributions to the athletic department or to a university booster organization.
  • Arranged for or provided employment for enrolled student-athletes.
  • Assisted or has been requested by university staff to assist in the recruitment of prospective student-athletes.
  • Assisted in providing benefits to enrolled student athletes or their families.
  • Been involved otherwise in promoting university athletics.
Once an individual is identified as a “representative of the institution’s athletics interests,” the person retains that identity forever.

Only institutional staff members are permitted to recruit prospective student-athletes. Generally, NCAA rules prohibit anyone else from contacting (calling, writing or in-person contact) prospects or the prospect’s relatives or guardian for recruiting purposes.

Students are still considered prospects even if they have signed a National Letter of Intent or any other financial aid agreement with a university.

Boosters are not precluded from continuing established friendships with families who have prospective student-athletes. However, boosters may not encourage a prospect’s participation in university athletics or provide benefits to prospects that were not previously provided.

If a violation occurs, it may jeopardize a student-athlete’s eligibility for intercollegiate competition, jeopardize a school’s membership status with the NCAA or cause a booster to lose access to all booster benefits.”
 




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Ryan Burns is claiming that Bucky Irving got a "6-figure" NIL deal from Oregon.
I hope it's true and he uses the money to help his family/mom. My guess is he loved his teammates here but felt pressure to chase the money. Soon he'll learn to love his new teammates at Oregon and he'll learn to love Halibut and all will be well, assuming he gets to tote the rock. And Unless we get some substantial NIL money here in Dinkytown, this will be a recurring scenario. Kinda takes some fun out of the party.
 

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Ryan Burns is claiming that Bucky Irving got a "6-figure" NIL deal from Oregon.
Tough to turn that down, especially if as reported he wants to help his family out.


It was still 100% tampering and inducement, on the part of Oregon boosters/NIL collective.

They should be fined, and we should get a piece of that fine, quite frankly.
 

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As has been said many times, and correctly, the money has been flowing for a long time. Bags under the table, or "NIL deals" over the table, it's the same thing.

But now in combination with a free transfer, it's tampering, inducement, and pay-for-play.


End the free transfer rule.

Irving should have to sit out of the 2022 season.
 

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As has been said many times, and correctly, the money has been flowing for a long time. Bags under the table, or "NIL deals" over the table, it's the same thing.

But now in combination with a free transfer, it's tampering, inducement, and pay-for-play.


End the free transfer rule.

Irving should have to sit out of the 2022 season.
IMO this is the answer much more so than trying to tone down NIL. If anything is "ruining" college sports it's the transfers, but NIL seems to generate more outrage from fans.
 

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IMO this is the answer much more so than trying to tone down NIL. If anything is "ruining" college sports it's the transfers, but NIL seems to generate more outrage from fans.
Well, of course, the problem was that the free transfer stuff happened first, and on its own, before any NIL was a thing, then it was OK.

I think much less likely that Irving transfers, if there is no NIL stuff. But the combination of the two things now, is trashing the product already. Give a couple years like this ....
 

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Well, of course, the problem was that the free transfer stuff happened first, and on its own, before any NIL was a thing, then it was OK.

I think much less likely that Irving transfers, if there is no NIL stuff. But the combination of the two things now, is trashing the product already. Give a couple years like this ....
I didn't like the transfer free for all to begin with. All NIL has done is made the stories more interesting/controversial IMO.
 

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Free transfer if you graduate with a degree from the school, made sense.
 


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Free transfer if you graduate with a degree from the school, made sense.
Absolutely the only reason for a “free transfer”. No hardship, no playing time, nothing should be accepted as a reason for the transfer. Eliminate this rule and you have eliminated SOME of the present day conundrum. Any school that doesn’t have their booster’s controlled/contained, automatic death penalty for that sport - no second chances. Otherwise, kiss college athletics good bye. Sad
 

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long but interesting story on SI.com - worth a read. some wild anecdotes.

suggestions that the new going rate for a FBS starter is $50,000 a year.

Big Money Donors Have Stepped Out of the Shadows to Create ‘Chaotic’ NIL Market

 

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After this Irving incident, I would like MN senators in on this meeting ....


There is nothing preventing the NCAA from playing hardball on NIL. They punted at a time a handful of states (given “big” football states mostly) had passed NIL legislation. The NCAA could have punished those schools in those states, but chose to not only do nothing, but washed their hands of it entirely bringing CFB to it’s current state. The stated reason was IIRC saber rattling from the Supreme Court after the Alston case. Emmert’s retirement seems to be a white flag amateurism is dead.

The problem with legislation will be where to set the line. Same with transfers. If you buy into the idea players are used and “slaves” then reimposing a one year penalty after a transfer is clearly a non-starter. The whole idea is allowing players to make as much money as they can, any way they can.
 

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Sometimes you don’t see the left hook until it’s too late


NCPA Takes Next Step Toward College Athletes Being Classified As Employees​


On Tuesday, the National College Players Association filed unfair labor practice charges with the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) against the NCAA office, the Pac-12 Conference and California schools USC and UCLA as single and joint employers of FBS football players and Division I men’s and women’s basketball players. The goal is to affirm employee status for D-I basketball players and FBS football players.


…Many administrators balk at the idea of turning college athletes into employees, but several know what’s coming, says Tom McMillen, the president of Lead1, a D.C.-based organization that represents the FBS athletic directors.

“Quite frankly, this could happen very quickly,” McMillen says. “Right now about 90% of my schools would resist, but you could have a whole division of college sports and run it like a business.”

Some administrators believe the solution lies in the nation’s capital, where a Congressional bill could lay a legal path for schools to provide athletes collective bargaining rights and even revenue-sharing provisions. Others suggest that, maybe, higher education and college athletics are headed for divorce.

“Everybody wants college football and basketball to be part of higher education,” one administrator told Sports Illustrated in the fall. “I don’t know if we can sustain it.”


 

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But I was told that giving these kids all this extra money beyond their scholarships would fix all these problems with corruption in football and basketball. After all, they're virtually slaves just barely getting by. People like Jay Bilas and Ed O'Bannon said so.

Oops. Guess not. Carry on!! 🙄
 




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