Max Brosmer 2025 NFL Draft: Scouting Report For Minnesota Golden Gophers QB

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MNVCGUY said:
Jackson was a higher pick but good example of a guy who was able to cash an NFL check for 9 years while not playing much outside of 2.5 seasons.
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He still apparently ran out of money as he couldn't afford an attorney in 2016 after he threatened his wife.
 


Full Speed Ahead said:
I'm not buying into the "doesn't have an arm" narrative. Max has a very short, compact and quick delivery, which IMO is huge for the NFL. Many of his throws were completely flat-footed - he didn't even move his front foot. That's all arm strength.

That quick release is IMO a big deal in the NFL when you have secondary players who, when the QB starts a windup, will jump the route and make the interception. When QBs put a lot of heat behind a throw there's a wind-up and they take a step into the throw, meaning a much longer release (e.g., what AK did on every single throw every time).

For the NFL I'll take a quick, compact release every day over someone who can throw the ball five yards longer than another guy. The former is used on basically every throwing play, the latter on just a last-minute hail mary.
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Some data to back up my statement:

 




Full Speed Ahead said:
Some data to back up my statement:

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Thanks for posting this! Now we know that Max Brosmer has an NFL-caliber arm.

One of the great benefits of new technologies coupled with the increased focus on metrics: we now have more data, we get better information and we can turn to objective facts when analyzing a player.
 


RememberMurray said:
Thanks for posting this! Now we know that Max Brosmer has an NFL-caliber arm.

One of the great benefits of new technologies coupled with the increased focus on metrics: we now have more data, we get better information and we can turn to objective facts when analyzing a player.
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Spiral chat!
 




Full Speed Ahead said:
Some data to back up my statement:

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This is a throwing session, not in a real game situation. It does not matter what he can do standing in there with no threat of pressure, throwing to players not being covered, when timing doesn't mean as much. Sometimes what you see on the field doesn't lineup with metrics and this is one of those cases.
 



mcrow47 said:
I guarantee you nobody is looking at these metrics and thinking "well geez, I guess what I'm actually seeing on film is wrong".
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It's going to be interesting. Some may look at Gopher receivers not getting much separation. Others may focus on lack of success with downfield throws, while others may think they can make an NFL QB out of his tangible assets. Predict 5th or 6th round.
 
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mcrow47 said:
I guarantee you nobody is looking at these metrics and thinking "well geez, I guess what I'm actually seeing on film is wrong".
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Partly because people don't like admitting they are wrong.
 

Word said:
Partly because people don't like admitting they are wrong.
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Nothing to do with being wrong. If they don't do it on the field it doesn't matter if they do it in throwing drills. The data can be right, but also if the player doesn't actually perform that way in games then the data doesn't matter.
 

mcrow47 said:
Nothing to do with being wrong. If they don't do it on the field it doesn't matter if they do it in throwing drills. The data can be right, but also if the player doesn't actually perform that way in games then the data doesn't matter.
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I coached high school volleyball during the days when VHS tapes were popular.

When I was new at preparing highlight tapes of my players, to send to college coaches, I’d ask the college coach how long the tape should be.

Every coach I spoke with encouraged me to limit the length to about two minutes, because “we don’t have time to watch much more than that, and besides, we think if we see her (perform a particular skill) once, we can train her to do it consistently.”
 


pk2 said:
I coached high school volleyball during the days when VHS tapes were popular.

When I was new at preparing highlight tapes of my players, to send to college coaches, I’d ask the college coach how long the tape should be.

Every coach I spoke with encouraged me to limit the length to about two minutes, because “we don’t have time to watch much more than that, and besides, we think if we see her (perform a particular skill) once, we can train her to do it consistently.”
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Yep....Highlight video just needs to make them want to see/learn more about the player. In the end they are going to put way more stock in seeing player perform in person or watching a full game tape vs. a highlight video because if done right you can make even bad/mediocre players look good in a highlight video.
 


Max was the most positively impactful player that PJ has had other than Mo. I never really thought he had a problem with Rm strength on the long balls. It just seemed his accuracy on same wasn’t great. That can improve overtime and may have been exacerbated by whether our receivers were good on the deep ball, too.
 

I think Chase Daniel is still cashing big checks in the NFL with a below average arm.....
 

I loved working the film room with those big hand dials we would spin back and forth to watch a play.
 



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