Matt Kegel Decommit

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50PoundHead said:
Not really sure, but Calhoun and Wright are big bodied OGs and Mason didn't have a lot of those. That said, today's training methods have made players bigger over the past decade, so that may not be an apples-to-apples comparison. If we bring back a Mason era approach, I want Claeys to get a Mason-like sport coat as pictured below.

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Claeys already said the offensive would stay mostly intact, just wants to be more aggressive. That tells me he could've made it work with Limey if he wanted too. I don't think were going back to the Mason era. That would take a couple recruiting classes and Claeys doesn't have that amount of time guaranteed to him. I think the Kegel and Weber decommits were a blow. I think he wanted to keep those guys. Polk, Foster and projian I believe were mutual partings
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bemidjigopher said:
Claeys already said the offensive would stay mostly intact, just wants to be more aggressive. That tells me he could've made it work with Limey if he wanted too. I don't think were going back to the Mason era. That would take a couple recruiting classes and Claeys doesn't have that amount of time guaranteed to him. I think the Kegel and Weber decommits were a blow. I think he wanted to keep those guys. Polk, Foster and projian I believe were mutual partings
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I agree. Weber probably goes because of our down season and Kegel because of Limey getting canned.
 

dpodoll68 said:
Claeys has stated multiple times that he will hire the O line coach first, probably before the bowl game. The only in-house candidate is Trevor Olson, but I very much doubt that Claeys will entrust that opportunity to a first-time position coach with no professional staff or recruiting experience.
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I've seen quotes from Claeys with different schedules, but nothing that said he would make a hire before the bowl game. Did I miss one?

From the Sports Huddle summary:
7) Dave Mona asked the final two-part question. He wanted to know about the hiring timetable for new coaches replacing Matt Limegrover and former quarterback coach Jim Zebrowski and recruiting defensive linemen:

Tracy Claeys said he won’t be hiring replacement coaches until after the National Coaches Convention – January 9-12, 2016. Criteria for the new coaches: best coaches available and being a “good fit” with the staff.
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From the Pioneer Press article:
“I think we will get (offensive line coach) done right around the holidays and before the convention,” Clayes said on WCCO-AM.
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To be fair those blaming Kegel's departure, to Limegrover being gone, need to recognize that Garrison Wright commited after he was gone. I'll take filling an immediate need.
 

My biggest disappointment of the Kill era was not the lack of a bowl win. It was our OL. They really underperformed their talent level. I would not be surprised if Trevor Olson was the new OL coach. Just don't see how they name another one before the bowl game unless it is someone else that TC is closely connected with.
 


Nate said:
I've seen quotes from Claeys with different schedules, but nothing that said he would make a hire before the bowl game. Did I miss one?

From the Sports Huddle summary:



From the Pioneer Press article:
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From the recent PP Leidner article (http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci...ll-mitch-leidner-criticizes-those-who-would):

O-LINE IS PRIORITY

Claeys said he's working toward hiring an offensive line coach before an offensive coordinator. The line coach could be hired around the holidays, with the coordinator vacancy filled near the national coaches convention in mid-January.

Claeys said that has been the plan since offensive coordinator/line coach Matt Limegrover was fired Nov. 29.

"I've done quite a bit of work behind the scenes and a lot of phone calls between my (recruiting) travels here the last two weeks," Claeys said. "Its important that you do your background work on people."

Claeys said he's looking for coaches who mesh with the chemistry of the existing staff and that coaches have the players' best interests in mind.

If an offensive line coach is hired before the bowl, he won't coach but could immediately help with recruiting, Claeys said.
 


Winasota Gopher said:
No. That would imply that every guy that gets a better offer always takes it. He could conceptually go to a "lower tier program" and have done it on his own accord. If he doesn't mesh well with Claey's he 100% could voluntarily jump ship and go to any school he chooses.

It's not simple logic, at all.
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"logic" does not mean that it will always work that way. It's just how it should work. It's like setting your alarm clock at a specific time. Logic would be that you wake up at that specific time, yet many people hit the snooze button or just plain don't hear it until it's too late. That's what makes us human and not robots. We don't always follow logic.

With that said, I think it proves true in Kegel's case. Oklahoma State is certainly a higher tier football wise, and as it seems with his quick de-commit and commit, that he had been thinking about this long and hard. So the "logic" in this case seems to be that it was his choice and not likely do to the coaches asking him to look around.
 

I doubt very much that Kegel was asked to look elsewhere. Coaching change usual brings turmoil and this is part of that process.
 



proudgopher said:
I doubt very much that Kegel was asked to look elsewhere. Coaching change usual brings turmoil and this is part of that process.
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There are 100 different ways to encourage a recruit to look elsewhere if you think he isn't a fit for what you want to do. You don't have to come out and tell them to look around, you can just show less enthusiasm, or tell them that you think they can maybe compete for a starting role in 3-4 years.
It is pretty much a fact that the kind of offensive line Claeys wants and Limegrover wanted are different. Maybe it's the talent level, maybe it's the style of player, maybe it's the need. But whatever it is, those are the facts, and now two OL recruits who were gung ho on Minnesota have decommitted. I don't say it to demean these kids, I say it to tamper down the woe is me Claeys is failing to hold onto kids he wants attitude. It can be a win win for both.
 

Looked like we've flipped a few players and we've lost a few players. Seems like in the not to distant past we only lost players.

That's some progress at least.
 

Not the type of OL Claeys wants? I don't know. He won't be the last.


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Maybe He and Tony Poljan were close?
This may have had something to do with it..

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Gopher028 said:
Maybe He and Tony Poljan were close?
This may have had something to do with it..

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Who is this Poljan guy? Don't care. We got Seth.
 


diehard said:
My biggest disappointment of the Kill era was not the lack of a bowl win. It was our OL. They really underperformed their talent level. I would not be surprised if Trevor Olson was the new OL coach. Just don't see how they name another one before the bowl game unless it is someone else that TC is closely connected with.
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Was the o-line's underperformance (and I agree they did underperform) a function of talent (or lack thereof) or coaching. There's a part of me that still believes Kill was stuck in a MAC mindset when it came to the offense. I think that having a line coach whose only responsibility is the line should help.
 

Wrong thread, but part of me is hoping that Claeys is this guy that was sitting in the back and quietly disagreeing with a lot of things going on, but because of loyalty and the fact that he had a defense to run never said anything. I hope he's putting in place some things and then I hope, obviously, that he's right.
 

Winasota Gopher said:
Wrong thread, but part of me is hoping that Claeys is this guy that was sitting in the back and quietly disagreeing with a lot of things going on, but because of loyalty and the fact that he had a defense to run never said anything. I hope he's putting in place some things and then I hope, obviously, that he's right.
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I think this was evident by the quick disposal of Limegrover.
 

Winasota Gopher said:
Wrong thread, but part of me is hoping that Claeys is this guy that was sitting in the back and quietly disagreeing with a lot of things going on, but because of loyalty and the fact that he had a defense to run never said anything. I hope he's putting in place some things and then I hope, obviously, that he's right.
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+1
 

Any chance he could bring in Lane Kiffin to run he offense? I know Wiggum would be in favor! ;)
 

mkAz said:
Apparently, Oklahoma State had an OT commit flip to Texas A&M last week. I'm guessing they contacted Kegel at that point.

http://newsok.com/article/5467151
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Yes. I was going to chime in on this a couple of days ago, but your moderators took some time to approve me.

Word is, Kegel was in the running for the last of our o-line spots, but so was McCollum. While Kegel was considering his options, McCollum locked down that last slot and that pretty much made Kegel's mind up for him, and he stuck with the Gophers.

McCollum was a diamond-in-the-rough kind of guy that hadn't gotten much notice. But after a successful season, Texas A&M poached him last week. I'm sure our staff contacted Kegel and told him of the open slot. Sounds like the told him a couple of days before his official visit, which is probably why he was so coy when asked about his commitment.

Our O-line coach was on the Buffalo Bills staff in 2014, and our o-line has been woeful the past couple of years, and our new coach has been working hard to upgrade our talent.

Your loss is definitely our gain, but I apologize since we obviously know what it's like to get poached, too. Apparently we got Tralund Webber, too. Although he's listed as a "soft verbal."
 


dlw4gophers said:
In your mind that is probably what happened.
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If it isn't dead-on what happened, it's pretty close. You guys weren't aided by the fact that you don't have a OL coach, and we have a guy from the NFL, that also coached the OL at Tennessee for 6 years under Phillip Fulmer. As a recruiter, he's the guy that recruited Champ Bailey and Demarcus Ware. Throw in the family element and our Top Ten facilities, plus a head coach who will be entering his 11th year with the program (stability) and is a former national coach of the year (2011) and it should come as no surprise that a kid would choose the known over the unknown.
 


SouthTulsaPoke said:
If it isn't dead-on what happened, it's pretty close. You guys weren't aided by the fact that you don't have a OL coach, and we have a guy from the NFL, that also coached the OL at Tennessee for 6 years under Phillip Fulmer. As a recruiter, he's the guy that recruited Champ Bailey and Demarcus Ware. Throw in the family element and our Top Ten facilities, plus a head coach who will be entering his 11th year with the program (stability) and is a former national coach of the year (2011) and it should come as no surprise that a kid would choose the known over the unknown.
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Yea, nothing says stability like this :cool:


Go Gophers!!
 

SouthTulsaPoke said:
If it isn't dead-on what happened, it's pretty close. You guys weren't aided by the fact that you don't have a OL coach, and we have a guy from the NFL, that also coached the OL at Tennessee for 6 years under Phillip Fulmer. As a recruiter, he's the guy that recruited Champ Bailey and Demarcus Ware. Throw in the family element and our Top Ten facilities, plus a head coach who will be entering his 11th year with the program (stability) and is a former national coach of the year (2011) and it should come as no surprise that a kid would choose the known over the unknown.
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Sounds reasonable to me. Perhaps the kid switches back from A&M........they are running out of QB's to block for.
 


BleedGopher said:
Yea, nothing says stability like this :cool:


Go Gophers!!
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Uh-huh. Like we haven't seen that thing but a few thousand times in the last eight years. Although, Gundy will tell you that it's the best thing he's ever done. When he goes into a recruits' homes, the parents point to this and know that Gundy will go to great lengths to protect one of his players.

But what really says stability is that he has taken us to a bowl game in ten straight seasons, including the Sugar Bowl, the Cotton Bowl and the Fiesta Bowl. All ten of our bowl seasons we have finished with a winning record. We're also 6-3 in bowl games under Coach Gundy.

Oh...did you know that Jerry Kill was one of Coach Gundy's high school coaches?

Also, nothing says stability like 83-33 record since the beginning of the 2007 season. That makes us the 15th winningest program in the FBS over that period of time. On top of that, Larry Fedora of UNC, Todd Monken of So. Miss, Tim Beckman formerly of Illinois and Dana Holgerson were all coordinators on Gundy's staff when they got their first head coaching jobs.

Nothing says stability like success.
 

BleedGopher said:
Yea, nothing says stability like this :cool:


Go Gophers!!
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I think that is actually pretty awesome, he's turned out to be a good coach too. Had nice things to say about Kill when Kill quit.

Gundy is standing up for his players there. Not bad.
 

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