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RememberMurray said:
If that's accurate, it is simply amazing.

For Minnesota to be 12th in the entire nation in wins over that time period is very impressive.

For Minnesota to have been ranked in only 11 weeks while compiling that impressive record is a bit of a head-scratcher, to say the least.
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I guess that's what happens when you start the season ranked and have to prove you're not worthy vs. having to go 7-0 to get a whiff at the rankings.
 



Well SEC only plays 8 conference games, so that's 5 less Power 5/4 games. That has always bothered me, with their 8 conference game schedule.
 


I saw it on X this morning. Someone in the comment section quickly pointed out that it shorted Penn State some wins, so it's not perfect. Still, it points out that teams like A&M, Miami, USC and others have spent a lot of time ranked early in the season on reputation only to eventually get dropped.

The Gophs have a had a few chances to get ranked the past few years before peeing down their leg in crucial times. Case in point Rutgers this year.
 



Panthadad2 said:
I saw it on X this morning. Someone in the comment section quickly pointed out that it shorted Penn State some wins, so it's not perfect. Still, it points out that teams like A&M, Miami, USC and others have spent a lot of time ranked early in the season on reputation only to eventually get dropped.

The Gophs have a had a few chances to get ranked the past few years before peeing down their leg in crucial times. Case in point Rutgers this year.
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Even Nebraska appeared in two different years, including a preseason rank coming off back to back four win seasons.
 



GopherGold01 said:
I guess that's what happens when you start the season ranked and have to prove you're not worthy vs. having to go 7-0 to get a whiff at the rankings.
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You got it, I don’t think they ever got a vote last year. Not saying they should have been ranked, but a couple stray votes were warranted.
 



GopherGold01 said:
I guess that's what happens when you start the season ranked and have to prove you're not worthy vs. having to go 7-0 to get a whiff at the rankings.
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Texas A&M really stands out, especially the last 3 seasons. They had a total of 11 P4/P5 wins in 2022-24 while being ranked 19 weeks.
 

The 2021 season set the Gophs back in terms of reputation. Still riding the 2019 waves coming out of COVID, that 2021 team was ranked in the pre-season and had the talent to compete with the best. A ton of key injuries and head scratching loss to Bowling Green eliminated any goodwill they built going into the season. It's been up an up hill climb since then.

They need another big season to build some trust among the pundits.
 

Panthadad2 said:
The 2021 season set the Gophs back in terms of reputation. Still riding the 2019 waves coming out of COVID, that 2021 team was ranked in the pre-season and had the talent to compete with the best. A ton of key injuries and head scratching loss to Bowling Green eliminated any goodwill they built going into the season. It's been up an up hill climb since then.

They need another big season to build some trust among the pundits.
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I think 2022 hurt more in terms of the polls not buying Minnesota right away. The Gophers started 4-0, outscoring opponents 183-24. They went in ranked No. 21 Vs. Purdue for homecoming and dropped it. I think that's the last time the team has been ranked.
 

Context I think would be needed and/or some
Validation before I’m buying 100% into this. I don’t know how we could have the 12 most wins of this type and have been to shitty bowls post 2019 every year? The second column seems to be an indictment of something – – PJ‘s reputation countrywide?
 

Gopherchase said:
Context I think would be needed and/or some
Validation before I’m buying 100% into this. I don’t know how we could have the 12 most wins of this type and have been to shitty bowls post 2019 every year? The second column seems to be an indictment of something – – PJ‘s reputation countrywide?
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So, why don't you supply some 'context'? Please elaborate. I'm willing to listen.

As far as validation is concerned, it wouldn't take much time to fact-check these win numbers.
 

Gopherchase said:
Context I think would be needed and/or some
Validation before I’m buying 100% into this. I don’t know how we could have the 12 most wins of this type and have been to shitty bowls post 2019 every year? The second column seems to be an indictment of something – – PJ‘s reputation countrywide?
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Nope. Take a look at the schedules since 2021 and tell me where the Gophers should have been ranked where they weren't. I think they got ranked in 2021 before the Illinois game then lost. In 2022, I believe they got ranked after smashing MSU then lost to Purdue. In 2024, they would have been ranked if not for losing at freaking Rutgers. They have just been inconsistent and hadn't had a breakout year since 2019 to attract any pre-season rankings.
 

Panthadad2 said:
Nope. Take a look at the schedules since 2021 and tell me where the Gophers should have been ranked where they weren't. I think they got ranked in 2021 before the Illinois game then lost. In 2022, I believe they got ranked after smashing MSU then lost to Purdue. In 2024, they would have been ranked if not for losing at freaking Rutgers. They have just been inconsistent and hadn't had a breakout year since 2019 to attract any pre-season rankings.
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One loss = you're no longer ranked.
 

RememberMurray said:
So, why don't you supply some 'context'? Please elaborate. I'm willing to listen.

As far as validation is concerned, it wouldn't take much time to fact-check these win numbers.
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Well if just threw out a number like 75 as being your IQ I could be asked to provide some context on how I gathered that info, et al. I could provide context here as I’ve read your posts for some time and it’s obvious.
 

Gopherchase said:
Well if just threw out a number like 75 as being your IQ I could be asked to provide some context on how I gathered that info, et al. I could provide context here as I’ve read your posts for some time and it’s obvious.
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Mmmmm...

I take it, then, that you have no 'context' whatsoever to provide on the actual subject at hand.

I didn't think so. Par for the course.
 

Panthadad2 said:
Nope. Take a look at the schedules since 2021 and tell me where the Gophers should have been ranked where they weren't. I think they got ranked in 2021 before the Illinois game then lost. In 2022, I believe they got ranked after smashing MSU then lost to Purdue. In 2024, they would have been ranked if not for losing at freaking Rutgers. They have just been inconsistent and hadn't had a breakout year since 2019 to attract any pre-season rankings.
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Notre Dame lost to Northern Illinois this year…
 

PoockItInfor6 said:
Notre Dame lost to Northern Illinois this year…
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Coming off a 10-win season last year, the Irish already had a road win vs #20 A&M, dropped all the way from #5 to #18 after losing to NIU, then beat Purdue by 59 points and followed that up with a lot more beat downs. I don't think that's comparable in any way to what the Gopher have done at any point since 2021.
 



You can probably boil it down to 3-4 games over the last 5 years.

Bowling Green in 2021 and Illinois in 2021, and Purdue and Iowa in 2022. With those wins those weeks ranked are probably in the 20's
 

I am sure if we looked we could find some weeks where the Gophers were more deserving than some of the teams that were ranked...but overall I think we tend to fall exactly where we should. Eventually you have to win the right game at the right time to get noticed enough to hold a ranking and the Gophers tend not to do that.
 

Panthadad2 said:
Nope. Take a look at the schedules since 2021 and tell me where the Gophers should have been ranked where they weren't. I think they got ranked in 2021 before the Illinois game then lost. In 2022, I believe they got ranked after smashing MSU then lost to Purdue. In 2024, they would have been ranked if not for losing at freaking Rutgers. They have just been inconsistent and hadn't had a breakout year since 2019 to attract any pre-season rankings.
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So tell us why LSU, Florida ,A&M, Nebraska, USC, get to start off ranked next year
 

Panthadad2 said:
Coming off a 10-win season last year, the Irish already had a road win vs #20 A&M, dropped all the way from #5 to #18 after losing to NIU, then beat Purdue by 59 points and followed that up with a lot more beat downs. I don't think that's comparable in any way to what the Gopher have done at any point since 2021.
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59 point win over a 1-11 Purdue team isn’t really something to write home about. Notre Dame’s best win was arguably USC. Whom the Gophers also beat. My point was that many people talk about Bowling Green in the same breath as saying Gophers dug their own grave… Notre Dame did exactly that this year and didn’t drop out of the rankings.
 

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