Koi Perich Transfer Portal

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PMWinSTP said:
Good ponts but let's be honest, we're OK with good, talented players shopping around from other teams if Gophs are a potential destination.
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Another response to that is that most if not all guys at the P4 level considering our program were not instant day 1 starters at the programs they were coming from. They're more than likely coming here for the chance at more playing time
 

mngg11 said:
For the sake of consistency I'll go ahead and say I don't want him back. We should be rallying around the kids who signed back up, aren't shopping around, and are focused on next season, like A. Smith, DT, Drake, and the others. I want to cheer for players who want to play for Minnesota, not ones disrupting the team from the inside by seeking the highest bidder upon first opportunity.

If this turns out being one big farce and Koi returns, every kid on that defense will have some trust issues and will second guess if Koi's head is in the game or on his personal highlight reel whenever he fucks something up on the field. I feel like there will be more indefinable damage to the roster with him returning than him leaving.
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Says Flounder from PJ’s hometown who has never been in a locker room. I actually agree with you here that it’s best all around if he moves on. Truth be told though and prob goes without saying 100 guys on a football team there is always some level of conflict or maybe better said quiet tension there is no way everyone is going to get along or like each other — no different than any other organization or business it generally matters none on game day; particularly if you have a pick six to win the game. Sophomore slump is a phrase because it’s a real thing my guess is he comes out next year like a house a fire.
 



Whytetale said:
When I buy a new pickup, I know it depreciates the moment I drive off the lot, but I like the newness. I've put myself through the U and one kid. I buy FB, WBB season tickets, and give to DTA. What's my ROI? Just feeling like I'm still doing my part.
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Appreciate your post and appreciate your attitude in a general sense. I don't by any means think you're "wrong" to choose the way you view it.

What rings especially true for me, is when he said:
"I’m not going to pay for some other guy's kid who’s mostly here to play a game - and, as we're currently seeing, has a high chance of leaving anyway."

Most of your post doesn't seem to address this. The part about giving to DTA does, for sure. That's the part where clearly you're OK with it. And that's OK
 


cheeseheadgophfan said:

Interesting....
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In my (perhaps not so expert) opinion, this is just yet another way to show that what he did, and the value Collins, Fleck, and the rest of the staff saw in him, didn't necessarily transfer into stats.

Again, the big one being picks. That's the big difference.

But perhaps teams were telling their QB to look for him and not throw his way, and maybe the scheme we (had to) ran this year also limited his opportunities for picks.
 

GopherGrit said:
In my (perhaps not so expert) opinion, this is just yet another way to show that what he did, and the value Collins, Fleck, and the rest of the staff saw in him, didn't necessarily transfer into stats.

Again, the big one being picks. That's the big difference.

But perhaps teams were telling their QB to look for him and not throw his way, and maybe the scheme we (had to) ran this year also limited his opportunities for picks.
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God you love Perich. He missed tons of tackles, was often out of position defensively, and played a position that won't be as highly paid as others - so there is benefit to the program to not overpay. Of course they saw value in him because he is very athletic, and he was also very frustrating to coach in that he was so often out of position and poor with fundamentals (tackling). He has a lot of potential, but he isn't a can't miss NFL player - not great size, and his speed is matched by a lot of players across the country. He wasn't even clearly the best safety here - Brown scored higher than him PFF, and simply the eye test played better. Perich had a poor second season.
 

Tucker32 said:
God you love Perich. He missed tons of tackles, was often out of position defensively, and played a position that won't be as highly paid as others - so there is benefit to the program to not overpay. Of course they saw value in him because he is very athletic, and he was also very frustrating to coach in that he was so often out of position and poor with fundamentals (tackling). He has a lot of potential, but he isn't a can't miss NFL player - not great size, and his speed is matched by a lot of players across the country. He wasn't even clearly the best safety here - Brown scored higher than him PFF, and simply the eye test played better. Perich had a poor second season.
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Two bolds: your words here are highly biased by your eye test and the few moments from each game that stick out to you/you choose to remember.

You don't have statistics to share on the actual percentage of tackles he missed, or the percentage of times he was out of position, and how those compare to the other starting Big Ten safeties playing his position.

Do you?

I don't, but my guess is that those stats would not support your narrative here for his play this year.

You could be correct on his NFL prospects, that part I don't care about as much because I mostly care about how he is as a college player.
 

Ironically came across our souvenir TCF stadium cup for the large Coke we purchase every game for last year (2024) that features a photo of Perich.

It is now on the shelf with all the others that have been collected annually since 2001 going back to the Dome days.
 



Tucker32 said:
God you love Perich. He missed tons of tackles, was often out of position defensively, and played a position that won't be as highly paid as others - so there is benefit to the program to not overpay. Of course they saw value in him because he is very athletic, and he was also very frustrating to coach in that he was so often out of position and poor with fundamentals (tackling). He has a lot of potential, but he isn't a can't miss NFL player - not great size, and his speed is matched by a lot of players across the country. He wasn't even clearly the best safety here - Brown scored higher than him PFF, and simply the eye test played better. Perich had a poor second season.
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Excellent post.

I get the sense the team has moved on from him already. Incredible athlete, but it comes with a high Drama/Savior Tax attached. Based on his sophomore performance, the money can be better spent elsewhere. If I can find 80-90% of the athleticism with 100% attention to detail and execution at 20-30% of the cost, I'm taking that deal all day every day. It's too bad, too. I thought he would have been more grounded, and could have built quite a legacy here that would have outlived his playing career. Time will tell I guess.
 



GopherGrit said:
Two bolds: your words here are highly biased by your eye test and the few moments from each game that stick out to you/you choose to remember.

You don't have statistics to share on the actual percentage of tackles he missed, or the percentage of times he was out of position, and how those compare to the other starting Big Ten safeties playing his position.

Do you?

I don't, but my guess is that those stats would not support your narrative here for his play this year.

You could be correct on his NFL prospects, that part I don't care about as much because I mostly care about how he is as a college player.
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I posted some stats in an earlier post. But here we go:
Opponent (2024)PFF GradePasser Rating AllowedMissed Tackles
N. Carolina68.479.20
Rhode Island74.539.6 (1 INT)0
Nevada70.156.10
Iowa64.284.51
at Michigan61.377.41
USC91.312.4 (1 INT)0
at UCLA89.515.8 (1 INT)0
Maryland80.222.1 (1 INT)0
at Illinois75.488.21
at Rutgers77.864.11
Penn State71.292.41
at Wisconsin82.144.50
VA Tech (Bowl)84.432.1 (1 INT)1
SEASON TOTAL88.925.66




Opponent (2025)PFF GradePasser Rating AllowedMissed Tackles
Buffalo71.256.31
NW State82.439.60
at California49.7118.93
Rutgers61.784.22
at Ohio State53.2132.44
Purdue76.542.11
Nebraska58.492.82
at Iowa51.4110.23
Michigan St56.195.72
at Oregon48.2148.82
at NW78.962.41
Wisconsin59.898.21
Rate Bowl69.778.41
SEASON TOTAL62.4126.323

A PFF of 62.4 at the P4 level is average to backup level. Below 60 is replaceable. A PFF of 88.9 is almost elite, so we'll call it elite for ease of comparison. Take out Buffalo, NW State - before the Cal calamity, and the Rate Bowl, where it looked like the coaching staff tossed him the 2 way bone again, his PFF was 59.4. Benchable on many other teams. For a Travis Hunter V2, these are catastrophic numbers. For NFL scouts, these are massive red flags.

PFF isn't a perfect metric by any means, but it is the closest thing to "blue book" value that is universally used and understood. When combined with the passer rating and "eye test" @Tucker32 referenced, yeah, I'm not making a 7 figure investment unless it is loaded with performance incentives, which he probably doesn't want.
 



Hates Monikers said:
I'm not saying any of this is wrong, but Koi was an all-American as a true freshman. He was pretty damn visible here
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Koi transferring isn't that shocking in this day and age but I don't buy into the idea that it has anything to do with draft prospects the way some have said.

NFL finds talent regardless of where they play in college and here he was a featured player on the team getting opportunities in all 3 phases. Maybe he gets all of that at a helmet school, maybe he doesn't.

The two reasons I can see for a guy like Koi to transfer are more money and/or a chance to compete for a National Title.
 

MNVCGUY said:
Koi transferring isn't that shocking in this day and age but I don't buy into the idea that it has anything to do with draft prospects the way some have said.

NFL finds talent regardless of where they play in college and here he was a featured player on the team getting opportunities in all 3 phases. Maybe he gets all of that at a helmet school, maybe he doesn't.

The two reasons I can see for a guy like Koi to transfer are more money and/or a chance to compete for a National Title.
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Concur as the most obvious reasons. As has been speculated, there are any number of under-the-radar reasons that cumulatively support these two big ones.

He will not be transferring to App State that is for sure.
 

Interesting one his higher grades this year was against Northwestern, which was one of the worst team games.
 

Tucker32 said:
God you love Perich. He missed tons of tackles, was often out of position defensively, and played a position that won't be as highly paid as others - so there is benefit to the program to not overpay. Of course they saw value in him because he is very athletic, and he was also very frustrating to coach in that he was so often out of position and poor with fundamentals (tackling). He has a lot of potential, but he isn't a can't miss NFL player - not great size, and his speed is matched by a lot of players across the country. He wasn't even clearly the best safety here - Brown scored higher than him PFF, and simply the eye test played better. Perich had a poor second season.
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I honestly think if he wasn’t who he was, he would’ve lost his starting spot.
 


Allshade said:
I had the opportunity to play golf with Koi the summer before his Freshman year at Les Bolsted Golf Course at the UofM. Koi was an idiot and an ass hat. Good riddance. And frankly, he's overrated. I'd be surpised if he has any success in the NFL.
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Say more. In what way?
 


Tucker32 said:
God you love Perich. He missed tons of tackles, was often out of position defensively, and played a position that won't be as highly paid as others - so there is benefit to the program to not overpay. Of course they saw value in him because he is very athletic, and he was also very frustrating to coach in that he was so often out of position and poor with fundamentals (tackling). He has a lot of potential, but he isn't a can't miss NFL player - not great size, and his speed is matched by a lot of players across the country. He wasn't even clearly the best safety here - Brown scored higher than him PFF, and simply the eye test played better. Perich had a poor second season.
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I am not a stats expert n I hate Iowa. Since Koi has made it clear his intention to play in the NFL as soon as possible I took a quick look at Cooper DeJean’s sophomore year. He had 75 tackles, 3 TFL’s, 5 INT’s- 3 for TD’s, 8 pass deflections and 1 punt returned for a TD. I wish Koi the best but he has to have big improvements to be NFL ready.
 



I’m sure his teammates aren’t upset that he’s leaving. I’ve heard stories about him receiving royal treatment from the coaching staff. He could do no wrong, and even when he did, there were no consequences. He won’t get that kind of treatment anywhere else—I can almost guarantee that.
 




For me I believe the coaches knew he was looking into the portal before the Bowl game. Even knowing that PJ gave him every opportunity to excel in every aspect of the game. If you forgive the mishandled punt that went out of bounds it was his best overall game this season in my opinion.
Personally I believe PJ and staff made a very tough decision to allow him to go into the Portal.
I wish Koi well but it appears PJ and his staff have put the RTB culture first!
 

SeaBee_Gopher said:
I listened to the same podcast. We lost a kid with a lot of potential at a position of strength. Get someone that is 90% of Koi that doesn’t freelance because he knows he can’t get away with it, shore up some weaker areas of the defense, and maybe it’s actually better next year.

Another interesting thing Burns mentioned is Koi isn’t really a fame kinda guy. Maybe he’s looking to go someplace where he isn’t the face of the program. And he can earn some more money to boot! Maybe both sides win with this move.
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I am 100% behind Perich and his family. His talent, his life.

He has a rare opportunity. It would be a crime to not play his hand to his best advantage.
 

LesBolstad said:
This is the fan mindset that endures Gopher football and men's hoops having 2 B10 titles since 1970

That's 2 out of 130 chances with no relief in sight
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You can throw another 27 misses for the Big 10 Basketball Tournament if you want to add to the misery. I'm guessing schools the hang banners for those, though as a Gopher fan I guess I don't know for sure.

A 28th Tournament in 2020 was not played to conclusion, but the Gophers had won a game and were still alive before it was nixed.
 

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