Ken Niumatalolo a finalist?

[GopherFB]

Niumatalolo is a good coach. I think he'd be a solid hire.

Wouldn't have to worry much about character issues with him since he's a Mormon.

 

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On a response to an article on College Football Talk.com in regards to this subject, a navy season ticketholder responded, "The Minnesota job would definitely be a step down for coach". Am I missing something?

 

[Bob_Loblaw]

Niumatalolo is a good coach. I think he'd be a solid hire.

Wouldn't have to worry much about character issues with him since he's a Mormon.

You're joking right?

Do you know what Ted Bundy, Glen Taylor Helzer and Arthur Gary Bishop have in common besides being serial killers?.............drumroll............they were mormons!!!

 

[Bob_Loblaw]

On a response to an article on College Football Talk.com in regards to this subject, a navy season ticketholder responded, "The Minnesota job would definitely be a step down for coach". Am I missing something?

A lot of people outside of the BCS schools don't understand that it is almost always a step up. I remember reading similar things on a Northern Illinois message board about Jerry Kill. People argued that because they beat us and were a better team than us, that it is a better job than MN. They just don't understand it.

 

[glovedgopher]

Niumatalolo is a good coach. I think he'd be a solid hire.

Wouldn't have to worry much about character issues with him since he's a Mormon.

Lets not bring religion into this. I would not be happy with this hire. The flexbone offense is not going to turn this program around. Once teams get used to defending it, it becomes easier to stop. It will kill recruiting as people will lump us with Navy and Air Force. It will not sell tickets.

 

[AuggieGopher]

Also Leach is a mormon

 

[GopherFB]

You're joking right?

Do you know what Ted Bundy, Glen Taylor Helzer and Arthur Gary Bishop have in common besides being serial killers?.............drumroll............they were mormons!!!

I get it.

Being crazy wasn't the problem, it was being Mormon.

Your're a genius.

 

[GopherFB]

Also Leach is a mormon

So?

Is Leach a bad person? Not as far as we know.

 

[RodentRampage]

I get it.

Being crazy wasn't the problem, it was being Mormon.

Your're a genius.

I don't think he is saying that. He's saying that being a Mormon doesn't necessarily equal being of good character. We have no reason to assume that being of religion X implies good or bad character.

 

[RamblinWreck]

There is so many things wrong on so many levels with this post I don't even know where to begin. There is a reason next to no one in division 1 football runs that p.o.s offense. ITS BORING and 50 years old. You wanna create fan interest? Stay away.

Thanks for your articulate, analytical, thoughtful rebuttal! I was taken aback by your intelligence in breaking down an argument by the good ol' "I don't even know where to begin" argument. Well played, Aristotle!

 

[GopherFB]

I don't think he is saying that. He's saying that being a Mormon doesn't necessarily equal being of good character. We have no reason to assume that being of religion X implies good or bad character.

My point is that religous people who really follow their religions generally speaking have better moral standards. It's not always the case as nobody is perfect. I never said that it made him a good person, just that the likelyhood of a devout Mormon having serious character issues isn't likely.

 

[RodentRampage]

Ah, so the fact that he's a Mormon means that he's probably better than everyone else. Good to know. I don't see a coach's religion as a plus or a minus.

 

[50PoundHead]

Ah, so the fact that he's a Mormon means that he's probably better than everyone else. Good to know. I don't see a coach's religion as a plus or a minus.

I would have a problem if a coach adhered to human sacrifice or ritual torture.

 

[Wheaton]

Ah, so the fact that he's a Mormon means that he's probably better than everyone else. Good to know. I don't see a coach's religion as a plus or a minus.

I explained why a religion matters.

Devote Catholics probably would prefer their son or daughter to play for Notre Dame.

Devote Mormons would prefer their son or daughter to go to BYU.

Protestants Oral Roberts University, the list goes on.

I said earlier that he can assure those LDS parents who truly hold those values strong that he himself holds the same values and he will continue to instill them while the kids are away playing football and attending college.

It it is more of a reach than anything else.

 

[RodentRampage]

I would have a problem if a coach adhered to human sacrifice or ritual torture.

Ah, we must be very careful about the end conditions on Gopherhole. About the only time I would have a problem with a coach's religion would be if it involved human sacrifice or ritual torture. And the ritual torture I could, in principle, ignore, there are people who PAY for that.

 

[GopherGod]

This is a little different though I think. Wacker just being Wacker was not good enough to make kids leave their home state to go way up north.

With coach N. he would be recruiting some people from Hawaii and Samoa, Polynesia like himself. He would also be recruiting many Latter-Day Saint kids.

That may seem like a reach, but if you've ever meet a devout Mormon you know that they hold the churches values close to themselves. Coach N. could probably do a good job convincing the athletes parents that he too hold their same values and their child would continue to be exposed to them outside of their household/home state.

just a thought...

Or the Mormon Polynesian athletes could just go to Utah and BYU like they do now where their religious views and beliefs are shared by the majority of the surrounding communities. You are really reaching expecting a pipeline just by hiring Ken.

 

[Wheaton]

Or the Mormon Polynesian athletes could just go to Utah and BYU like they do now where their religious views and beliefs are shared by the majority of the surrounding communities. You are really reaching expecting a pipeline just by hiring Ken.

You quoted me, I was reaching.

But... These Polynesian LDS may want to be coach by another Polynesian LDS. Something BYU can't offer! haha

 

[GopherFB]

Ah, so the fact that he's a Mormon means that he's probably better than everyone else. Good to know. I don't see a coach's religion as a plus or a minus.

No, non-religous people could have good morals too. Catholics,lutherns,Jews...ect basically all people of faith who are truely practicing their relgion should have a pretty good moral compass. They have their religion to guide them. Hopefully your parents raised you right but it helps to have a religous background as well.

 

[highwayman]

Thanks to the Data Practices Act, they announced Strong & Brew as the finalists in '07. So, there's a chance that two, or more, will be announced as finalists this time.

Wrong. There will be only one finalist. Guaranteed. There will be no "announcement". There will be a hire, and no word on the other candidates. Data Practices doesn't cover the confidentiality of the other candidates. Ask your company's lawyer.

Sorry, doogie.

 

[Bob_Loblaw]

I get it.

Being crazy wasn't the problem, it was being Mormon.

Your're a genius.

Nope, that wasn't my point at all. I never even hinted at that. I was merely saying that being mormon doesn't automatically make anyone a good person.

You are the one equating on whether someone will be a good person or not with their religious affiliation. Not me.

 

[Great Plains Gopher]

Terrible idea

"@TomDienhart: A source has told me that Navy coach Ken Niumatalolo has interviewed and is a finalist at Minnesota."

A rookie coach in a system built by Paul Johnson - almost no HC experience, plus triple option. Affirmative action points and not much more.

 

[Bob_Loblaw]

No, non-religous people could have good morals too. Catholics,lutherns,Jews...ect basically all people of faith who are truely practicing their relgion should have a pretty good moral compass. They have their religion to guide them. Hopefully your parents raised you right but it helps to have a religous background as well.

Puke

 

[50PoundHead]

Ah, we must be very careful about the end conditions on Gopherhole. About the only time I would have a problem with a coach's religion would be if it involved human sacrifice or ritual torture. And the ritual torture I could, in principle, ignore, there are people who PAY for that.

One could argue that Brewster practiced ritual torture on us this season.

 

[GopherFB]

A rookie coach in a system built by Paul Johnson - almost no HC experience, plus triple option. Affirmative action points and not much more.

Rookie, almost no HC experience? This is his 3rd year as HC.

He called the plays at UNLV and they didn't run the triple option.