Jonathon Nwanko Given Release from His Letter Of Intent

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Maybe. Also I am not an alum so perhaps my voice should not be taken as seriously as people who attended and need to rely on the integrity of the degree.

That said, do you think no one with a lower TOEIC score (or equivalent) got in than Deidhue? No brilliant foreign chemistry student made it in with substandard language or writing skills? Certain departments other than athletics don't lobby admissions?

My unsubstantiated point is that the admissions group has an axe to grind with athletics. If so, this is not acceptable. Revenue athletes (leave it to you guys to discuss the other sports) are world class or national level athletes and they deserve consideration for that.

Pitino needs 3-5 admissions per year and should be held accountable for what they achieve at school but he doesn't need to face barriers other Big coaches do not face.
 

Winnipegopher said:
Maybe. Also I am not an alum so perhaps my voice should not be taken as seriously as people who attended and need to rely on the integrity of the degree.

That said, do you think no one with a lower TOEIC score (or equivalent) got in than Deidhue? No brilliant foreign chemistry student made it in with substandard language or writing skills? Certain departments other than athletics don't lobby admissions?

My unsubstantiated point is that the admissions group has an axe to grind with athletics. If so, this is not acceptable. Revenue athletes (leave it to you guys to discuss the other sports) are world class or national level athletes and they deserve consideration for that.

Pitino needs 3-5 admissions per year and should be held accountable for what they achieve at school but he doesn't need to face barriers other Big coaches do not face.
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In your opinion, of the other 13 schools in the conference, which ones do you think are more lenient in getting kids into school? More specifically, which ones do you know that is the case? Just curious, again.
 

scher215 said:
Because no one on a message board has ever done any of those things prior to GW ...
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Those 3 examples? Pretty sure nobody has taken the 3 and argued so vociferously that he's right and what the football coach said, and what the basketball coach does, and what the AD has planned are wrong or even deceitful.
 

SelectionSunday said:
In your opinion, of the other 13 schools in the conference, which ones do you think are more lenient in getting kids into school? More specifically, which ones do you know that is the case? Just curious, again.
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Not sure where are you going with this.

I don't really see any outliers but I don't pay enough attention to recruiting. Do other schools face a yearly problem of getting recruits in? Was the recent MSU de-commit academic related?

I do however, see only Minnesota basketball (and maybe Wisconsin football) having publicized issues.

My point is that Minnesota admissions should be at the minimum allowed by the Big Ten conference. If they already are, then I am wrong and misinformed. I don't believe they are.
 

Mulligan said:
Those 3 examples? Pretty sure nobody has taken the 3 and argued so vociferously that he's right and what the football coach said, and what the basketball coach does, and what the AD has planned are wrong or even deceitful.
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Really? There's been no threads about Kills health (see the one about the Souhon column), who Pitino should play (see every thread that mentions Joey King) or the fund raising (check out how many pages every thread about it in the football section is)?

Sure it's not one person. But those topics are discussed over and over again here. If they weren't, Dr. Don would have nothing to post about :)
 


Costa Rican Gopher said:
This hurts. Anyone pretending it doesn't is kidding themselves. Nwanko was supposed to be an immediate impact guy in terms of rebounding, toughness and defensive presence. It was expected his offensive game would be a work in progress and that he'd have foul trouble issues, but if he could just grab some boards & play some D before fouling out every night it would have been a big upgrade to our baby-butt soft front court.

Bakary is skilled and isn't a sissy, but we desperately need some toughness up front and now where's that coming from? Gaston hasn't earned any real minutes yet at his own position, much less at the 5. To my knowledge he has never played a single minute at the Center position for us? Lynch is a year off still. King and Buggs are non factors for rebounding, defense or toughness. It's not the end of the world, but Nwanko was probably the second most important recruit behind Dorsey in terms of immediate impact.
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I don't disagree. We needed 10 fouls at the 5, with Gaston's for emergencies.
 

I think more than anything, it is a matter of being on a level playing field with other schools. Tougher to get some of the good players, but also harder to keep/attract good coaches.
 

Well Sid always says there are problems at the U and one of them is getting players admitted.

Reusse says he(Sid) is full of sh!t.

Now everyone is up to date.:)
 

scher215 said:
Really? There's been no threads about Kills health (see the one about the Souhon column), who Pitino should play (see every thread that mentions Joey King) or the fund raising (check out how many pages every thread about it in the football section is)?

Sure it's not one person. But those topics are discussed over and over again here. If they weren't, Dr. Don would have nothing to post about :)
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Not sure why I'm continuing this argument but don't make it into something it's not. "Nobody has taken the 3" is talking about one person doing all this not very silly thread we have on GH.. The one that pisses me off is Kill's health where he essentially called Kill a liar, predicted he wouldn't be coaching by the end of next year, and then started adding the phony concern, "But I care about him as a man." I guess I do know why I'm continuing the argument cause I'm getting pissed all over again.
 



SelectionSunday said:
In your opinion, of the other 13 schools in the conference, which ones do you think are more lenient in getting kids into school? More specifically, which ones do you know that is the case? Just curious, again.
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SS, with all due respect, you should just admit that the playing field is not level in ncaa athletics, on a number of fronts.
 

BarnBurner said:
SS, with all due respect, you should just admit that the playing field is not level in ncaa athletics, on a number of fronts.
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Prove it.

Quite the defeatists stance to take when a program recruits 3 foreign born players in 2 years and struggles to get them admitted. It COULD be the university but there is no concrete evidence to suggest that nor are there examples that prove other schools don't have the same stance. I don't believe anyone on this board follows recruiting enough to know of every instance in which another B1G university recruited and then had subsequent complications with getting foreign players admitted to their university.

Lets also remember, both Gas and Bakary got into the University of Minnesota.
 

Mulligan said:
The one that pisses me off is Kill's health where he essentially called Kill a liar, predicted he wouldn't be coaching by the end of next year, and then started adding the phony concern, "But I care about him as a man."
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He could be banned for his comments on Kill alone. Add in his comments on Mbakwe & the AD, no idea why he is allowed to post here and promote his joke of a website.

Constant fighting over why Welch was a better option over Hollins (wrong), EE needs more mins (wrong) was annoying, but no big deal... the other **** is way over the line.
 




HOOP DREAMS said:
Great point, Souhon would have been banned right away... just like GW should be.
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Why? You might not like him personally, but what was said that is "ban-worthy"? We should all be free to express our opinions about a guy that puts himself in the public eye like Kill does. I'll admit that maybe I didn't see all the comments you are referring to but I'm struggling with what direction he or others could have gone in that would make him "ban-worthy". I would argue all the character assassination that goes on against fellow posters here provides less value to the message board and is more "ban-worthy" than opinions you might not agree with on other topics.
 

There are far more annoying people on this forum than GW
 


On Lynch - Nothing I've seen for the sit out guys yet, but don't lose any sleep worrying about whether Lynch would make it. He's by far the best player Pitino signed for 2015. Missouri Valley is no joke, Illinois St was good enough to beat Wichita St by the end of the year, and Lynch was the best player on the team. There is literally nothing to indicate that he won't be an impact player in the Big Ten, though he did struggle with foul trouble.
 

jwhoops said:
On Lynch - Nothing I've seen for the sit out guys yet, but don't lose any sleep worrying about whether Lynch would make it. He's by far the best player Pitino signed for 2015. Missouri Valley is no joke, Illinois St was good enough to beat Wichita St by the end of the year, and Lynch was the best player on the team. There is literally nothing to indicate that he won't be an impact player in the Big Ten, though he did struggle with foul trouble.
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Except for never having played in the B1G 10 right? And literally not being an impact player in the MVC in his 2 years there. Just pump the breaks before calling him an impact player.

And he will sit out a year. Thats the rule, the reason you haven't heard anything yet is because there is no waiver anymore.
 

It'd be nice

jwhoops said:
On Lynch - Nothing I've seen for the sit out guys yet, but don't lose any sleep worrying about whether Lynch would make it. He's by far the best player Pitino signed for 2015. Missouri Valley is no joke, Illinois St was good enough to beat Wichita St by the end of the year, and Lynch was the best player on the team. There is literally nothing to indicate that he won't be an impact player in the Big Ten, though he did struggle with foul trouble.
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It'd be nice if Lynch could maintain 9 points and 5 rebounds per game as his average production for the Gophers when he is able to play. But even if he could, that is not typically my definition of an impact player. If someone else as a sophomore from the 2015 class doesn't surpass whatever numbers Lynch puts up in 2016...we're in trouble.

I do hope Lynch is effective and contributes to your expectations. That'd be awesome.
 

60's Guy said:
It'd be nice if Lynch could maintain 9 points and 5 rebounds per game as his average production for the Gophers when he is able to play. But even if he could, that is not typically my definition of an impact player. If someone else as a sophomore from the 2015 class doesn't surpass whatever numbers Lynch puts up in 2016...we're in trouble.

I do hope Lynch is effective and contributes to your expectations. That'd be awesome.
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He'll be fine in the B1G, I doubt he is a star by any means but he will provide meaning full minutes. If he ends up being the best recruit for 2015 the Gophers will be in big time trouble.
 


So was this an issue with his school, or with other transcripts from previous schools? Didn't he have a teammate from Victory prep that also joined the gophers as a PWO? Was there any issue getting that kid admitted?
 

C'Mon Man said:
So was this an issue with his school, or with other transcripts from previous schools? Didn't he have a teammate from Victory prep that also joined the gophers as a PWO? Was there any issue getting that kid admitted?
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We don't know...but he is not approved by the NCAA clearing house...so that would mean if he could get into a college he couldn't play. Word is, I believe that he is short of core classes because some classes from Europe were not recognized by the NCAA as qualifying toward the requirements needed.
 


60's Guy said:
We don't know...but he is not approved by the NCAA clearing house...so that would mean if he could get into a college he couldn't play. Word is, I believe that he is short of core classes because some classes from Europe were not recognized by the NCAA as qualifying toward the requirements needed.
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If that's the case he should reclassify for 2016 and get the core classes.
 

HOOP DREAMS said:
I'd take 9.5, 5.4, 2.8blks in 22.2mpg
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The problem is that the minutes are completely a function of foul trouble. Illinois State played 3 games against KenPom Top 25 teams (Wich St x 2, and UNI.) In those 3 games he had 14 fouls in 70 minutes. Across those 3 games there were a grand total of 7 minutes played by opponents taller than 6'9.

He had 4 more games against teams 26 - 70. In those games he had 15 fouls in 90 minutes. Those games featured 0 minutes by opposing players over 6'9".

I have little doubt that Lynch will play and contribute. I think there's good reason to question whether he can be an impact player in the Big 10.
 


howeda7 said:
"I'm sorry but I can't join in thinking we're 'fine' with Konate and Gaston at center."
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Yes, I don't think I could convince myself of that even if I repeated it 100 times.
 

Tim1406 said:
Because nobody actually believes or cares that these are supposed to be student-athletes anymore. We want our school to win on the court and who cares what the academics are like so long as we don't know about it.
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Well said, but you can't blame people too much for feeling that way. On one hand you have academics and on another hand you have big time sports with all of the attendant media and the two can be strange bedfellows.
 

justthefacts said:
I have little doubt that Lynch will play and contribute. I think there's good reason to question whether he can be an impact player in the Big 10.
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I expect Kontae to be an impact player, Lynch an nice contributor.

Gas, who knows.
 

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