Jerry Kill says he'd still be coaching if not for pressure after Teague scandal

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Outside of a few complaints here and there we didn't hear much criticism of Kill until he stepped down. That event coincided with the season sort of careening off the track last year. The painful non-conference, the NWestern disaster, etc.

So, it seems fans were OK with Kill, Limeyball and all, as long as the trend line was positive. Now we just want him to "shut up". Tough crowd.
 

I'll always have great respect for kill


Wish he could've stayed healthy
 

ruppertflywheel said:
Sorry....Kill did more harm than good. He put a lot pressure on a lot of people within the University infrastructure because he refused to deal with his health issues letting football supercede his condition. After the New Mexico State incident my wife and I were very uneasy sitting in the stands when Kill was on the sidelines.
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That's something a Trump supporter would write. Fascist!
 



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And I'd still be having regular sex if I hadn't gotten married. My bad Jerry.
 

ruppertflywheel said:
Sorry....Kill did more harm than good. He put a lot pressure on a lot of people within the University infrastructure because he refused to deal with his health issues letting football supercede his condition. After the New Mexico State incident my wife and I were very uneasy sitting in the stands when Kill was on the sidelines.
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I'm sorry you canceled your season tickets.
 

Pompous Elitist said:
Outside of a few complaints here and there we didn't hear much criticism of Kill until he stepped down. That event coincided with the season sort of careening off the track last year. The painful non-conference, the NWestern disaster, etc.

So, it seems fans were OK with Kill, Limeyball and all, as long as the trend line was positive. Now we just want him to "shut up". Tough crowd.
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Not true, there was a constant criticism of the offense.

Kill was good for the U, but his constant, critical interjections are getting old and is starting to tarnish his reputation. Minnesotans can be very loyal, but they tend to turn on public people that play the victim and those that want to be the center of attention. Kill seems to be going down that path.


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alchemy2u said:
Not true, there was a constant criticism of the offense.

Kill was good for the U, but his constant, critical interjections are getting old and is starting to tarnish his reputation. Minnesotans can be very loyal, but they tend to turn on public people that play the victim and those that want to be the center of attention. Kill seems to be going down that path.


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I pretty much feel the same way. Only place where I differ is that the criticism of the offense fell almost entirely on Limegrover and not Kill.
 

ruppertflywheel said:
Sorry....Kill did more harm than good. He put a lot pressure on a lot of people within the University infrastructure because he refused to deal with his health issues letting football supercede his condition. After the New Mexico State incident my wife and I were very uneasy sitting in the stands when Kill was on the sidelines.
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What the hell?
 

50PoundHead said:
I pretty much feel the same way. Only place where I differ is that the criticism of the offense fell almost entirely on Limegrover and not Kill.
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Not quite right. Plenty of people (including local sportswriters) believe that Kill ran the offense and that Limegrover didn"t have the final say on anything including the offensive game plan and play calling. We didn't know it at first, but eventually it became clear that Kill left the defense almost totally up to Claeys and had a leash around Limegrover before, during, and after the games. There is little doubt that the offense was Kill's.
 

bemidjigopher said:
That's something a Trump supporter would write. Fascist!
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C'mon man. The guy was a walking time bomb with his health issues. With his seizures he could've fallen and hit his head on all the equipment gear on the sidelines. There was one presser where he had a cut on his head from falling. Your kiding yourself if you were in the stands and you aren't thinking: " Jeez, I hope he'll be ok". He'd be running along the sidelines like a gerbal on a treadmill. I have the utmost respect for Kill as a football coach and mentor, but he should have resigned after the New Mexico State incident.
 



ruppertflywheel said:
C'mon man. The guy was a walking time bomb with his health issues. With his seizures he could've fallen and hit his head on all the equipment gear on the sidelines. There was one presser where he had a cut on his head from falling. Your kiding yourself if you were in the stands and you aren't thinking: " Jeez, I hope he'll be ok". He'd be running along the sidelines like a gerbal on a treadmill. I have the utmost respect for Kill as a football coach and mentor, but he should have resigned after the New Mexico State incident.
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I bet that sideline with doctors and turf is safer than being at home alone.
 


feel free to check my posts rt after JK resigned. JK will coach again but it will only because he 'did it for the kids'. that will be the song and dance.
 

UpnorthGo4 said:
Not quite right. Plenty of people (including local sportswriters) believe that Kill ran the offense and that Limegrover didn"t have the final say on anything including the offensive game plan and play calling. We didn't know it at first, but eventually it became clear that Kill left the defense almost totally up to Claeys and had a leash around Limegrover before, during, and after the games. There is little doubt that the offense was Kill's.
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True dat. Kill obviously had Limey on a leash just as sure as you can get walleye on a stick at the GMGT. The offense was more balanced and more effective in virtually every game Kill was out.
 

BarnBoy said:
I know what you mean, but let's cut him a little slack. This book aside, when he's in the news it's because a reporter is seeking him out. Should he just say "no comment"?
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I'd say yes. If he really has respect for and is pulling for his former program/staff members, he should lay low and avoid commenting on Gopher Football for awhile. Give us a cooling off period and allow Coach Claeys to put his stamp on the program. It's clearly a divisive issue among the fan base; every time he is quoted it turns into a long pissing match on this message board.
 

Pompous Elitist said:
My takeaway from that is what a cluster**** the department was. Give the man a parking spot. Don't assign an epileptic to do the athletic director's job, during football season no less.

Of course, OL' Jerry has that doublespeak that only someone that's been around the block has mastered. The U was good to me, but they weren't (but it pays well) Teague is a POS, but had good attributes. My coaching days are over, but I'd still be coaching if not for Teague. I give it 2 years.
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This! What is troubling about this is IIRC the U(possibly Kaler?) promised to do what they could to lighten Kill's load if necessary.
 

Some Day...Is Coming! said:
For miserable people like yourself I wish another Brewster was hired. Amazing how you can be so dense as to not realize that the writers and reporters, ala Joe, are calling him for comment.
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Miserable, dense person huh? Get off Kill's nutsack. He did a great job here, we all should be appreciative of his efforts, and it's sad that he didn't get a chance to finish the job.

I fully realize that the local media calls him all the time for quotes. I also realize (which apparently you do not) that he is a big boy and surely is media savvy enough to avoid poorly timed comments that divide the fan base and dredge up old issues.
 

STPGopher said:
This! What is troubling about this is IIRC the U(possibly Kaler?) promised to do what they could to lighten Kill's load if necessary.
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I'm gonna take a stab and say that they were honest about offering to lighten Jerry's load.

I think Jerry in the book is referring to the workload that he wanted and he felt he should do. Like most HCs I suspect he is a bit of a workaholic. Even before MEGATONGUE left Jerry was doing a ton of speaking engagements as it was. I doubt he was required to do them all.

Even in his resignation he said he didn't want to do that job half way. I think that was Jerry's call, not someone telling him he couldn't.
 

I fail tounderstand why hearing about/from a resigned/not fired head coach every 4-6 months is so upsetting. Big deal. It is interesting to hear more about the inner workings at the U even if they don't align with some of your fantasies.

Like others, I think Kill had many top notch attributes, but he and his staff had a ceiling at the highest levels of football. Perhaps he didn't recognize it, or he couldn't bring himself to change, or he was just a stubborn ol coot. Maybe all the above. It took him a long way.

I still don't understand the angst. This has zero effect on Claeys and the upcoming season. Nor would it have if he had been retained. The power has shifted.
 

ruppertflywheel said:
C'mon man. The guy was a walking time bomb with his health issues. With his seizures he could've fallen and hit his head on all the equipment gear on the sidelines. There was one presser where he had a cut on his head from falling. Your kiding yourself if you were in the stands and you aren't thinking: " Jeez, I hope he'll be ok". He'd be running along the sidelines like a gerbal on a treadmill. I have the utmost respect for Kill as a football coach and mentor, but he should have resigned after the New Mexico State incident.
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Just stop!
 

UpnorthGo4 said:
Not quite right. Plenty of people (including local sportswriters) believe that Kill ran the offense and that Limegrover didn"t have the final say on anything including the offensive game plan and play calling. We didn't know it at first, but eventually it became clear that Kill left the defense almost totally up to Claeys and had a leash around Limegrover before, during, and after the games. There is little doubt that the offense was Kill's.
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I agree the offense was Kill's. What I'm saying is that Limegrover got most of the criticism. Kill ran a MAC offense and it was clear he was playing not to lose as much as he was playing to win.
 

I like Kill and have a positive view on what he did while he was here.

With that being said it sort of sounds to me like Kill thinks he can throw this football over that mountain over there.
 

Pompous Elitist said:
I fail tounderstand why hearing about/from a resigned/not fired head coach every 4-6 months is so upsetting. Big deal. It is interesting to hear more about the inner workings at the U even if they don't align with some of your fantasies.

Like others, I think Kill had many top notch attributes, but he and his staff had a ceiling at the highest levels of football. Perhaps he didn't recognize it, or he couldn't bring himself to change, or he was just a stubborn ol coot. Maybe all the above. It took him a long way.

I still don't understand the angst. This has zero effect on Claeys and the upcoming season. Nor would it have if he had been retained. The power has shifted.
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Minnesotans are thin skinned about such things. Een things that shouldn't poke them.
 

A_Slab_of_Bacon said:
I'm gonna take a stab and say that they were honest about offering to lighten Jerry's load.

I think Jerry in the book is referring to the workload that he wanted and he felt he should do. Like most HCs I suspect he is a bit of a workaholic. Even before MEGATONGUE left Jerry was doing a ton of speaking engagements as it was. I doubt he was required to do them all.

Even in his resignation he said he didn't want to do that job half way. I think that was Jerry's call, not someone telling him he couldn't.
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Good point. Probably hard for him to reconsile within himself that he was getting paid over a million and not doing it all.
 

STPGopher said:
Good point. Probably hard for him to reconsile within himself that he was getting paid over a million and not doing it all.
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Honestly, I suspect Jerry just loved the job and couldn't do it halfway / didn't want to take the meds while working. Not even money, he just wanted to do it all. Also maybe his family finally said it was time to take a break.
 

Jerry Kill is wired one way for everything. Give him a job at Walmart and he would work his ass off to be the best employee there ever. The U could have tried to lighten his load but it would have been as effective as those on here that waste their time telling me not to abbreviate players with initials/numbers.


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This doesn't have to be a black-or-white deal.

I liked Jerry Kill as a coach, and thought he did a good job at the U. Sadly, due to his health problems, we'll never know what he might have done at the U given a longer tenure.

BUT - at the same time, it is possible to understand or accept that Jerry Kill is certainly aware of his own image, and is not above trying to influence/manipulate that image - especially when he's trying to sell a book.

In short, like most people, not a saint or a sinner - somewhere in between.
 

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