It's Spring...predict your two deeps

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QB: Gray / Weber
HB: Bennett / Eskridge
FB: Hoese / NO IDEA
TE: Lair / Eure
RT: Wills / Olson
RG: Carufel / Bunders
C: Burris / Mottla
LG: Wynn / Michel
LT: Alford / Orton
WR: McKnight / Kiese
WR: Green / Hayo
Slot: Allen / Stoudamire

DE: Hageman / KGM
DT: Kirksey / Jacobs
DT: Edwards / Jacques
DE: Wilhite / Garin
OLB: Rallis / Reeves
MLB: Tinsley / Maresh
OLB: Cooper / Tatum
CB: C. Lewis / Collado
CB: Carter / Johnson
S: Royston / Thornton
S: Theret / Watkins

I guess I don't really expect any real big surprises. I do kind of expect Allen to beat out Stoudamire, I just think he is a much more natural receiver.
 


what no placekicker, kick off specialist, punter, punt returner, kick returner?
 


QB: Gray / Weber
HB: Bennett / Eskridge
FB: Hoese / NO IDEA
TE: Lair / Eure
RT: Wills / Olson
RG: Carufel / Bunders
C: Burris / Mottla
LG: Wynn / Michel
LT: Alford / Orton
WR: McKnight / Kiese
WR: Green / Hayo
Slot: Allen / Stoudamire

DE: Hageman / KGM
DT: Kirksey / Jacobs
DT: Edwards / Jacques
DE: Wilhite / Garin
OLB: Rallis / Reeves
MLB: Tinsley / Maresh
OLB: Cooper / Tatum
CB: C. Lewis / Collado
CB: Carter / Johnson
S: Royston / Thornton
S: Theret / Watkins

I guess I don't really expect any real big surprises. I do kind of expect Allen to beat out Stoudamire, I just think he is a much more natural receiver.

-Jacques has been moved to OG.
-Jacobs seems more likely to play 3-technique (backing up Kirksey) to me and Ferguson to play NT.
-I'd be surprised if Tatum doesn't redshirt. IMO Singleton backs up Cooper.
-Michel was initially playing some G but I heard he was playing LT too so his position doesn't seem set in stone.

I actually agree with everything else on your list but I have no idea about the Juco's until spring game.
 


Grunkier, where did you read that Jacques has been moved to OG. I am not questioning you, in fact, I saw on gophersports that they have him listed as a guard, but I think that is because they haven't made a lot of the position changes yet (still has Rallis at S).

The little I have seen of Jacques, he really did seem like more of a DT to me than an offensive guard, but I could almost certainly be wrong.

I have jacobs backing up Kirksey on my depth chart.

You are 100% right about Tatum, I messed up, I was actually thinking of Singleton.
 

I am not sure why everyone is so high on Rallis. I would much rather have some combination of these 4 as our backers....
Maresh
Cooper
Tinsley
Reeves
 

I am not sure why everyone is so high on Rallis. I would much rather have some combination of these 4 as our backers....
Maresh
Cooper
Tinsley
Reeves

Rallis has some experience, he won't be the starter. He is starting to push the others to compete harder
 

QB: Gray / Weber
HB: Bennett / Eskridge
FB: Hoese / NO IDEA
TE: Lair / Eure
RT: Wills / Olson
RG: Carufel / Bunders
C: Burris / Mottla
LG: Wynn / Michel
LT: Alford / Orton
WR: McKnight / Kiese
WR: Green / Hayo
Slot: Allen / Stoudamire

DE: Hageman / KGM
DT: Kirksey / Jacobs
DT: Edwards / Jacques
DE: Wilhite / Garin
OLB: Rallis / Reeves
MLB: Tinsley / Maresh
OLB: Cooper / Tatum
CB: C. Lewis / Collado
CB: Carter / Johnson
S: Royston / Thornton
S: Theret / Watkins

I guess I don't really expect any real big surprises. I do kind of expect Allen to beat out Stoudamire, I just think he is a much more natural receiver.

Looks good, a couple changes I´d make....

TE: Eure / Lair (Brew is very high on Eure)
RG: Michel backing up Carufel
LG: Bunders / Orton (Wynn is injured)
Slot: Stoudemire / Allen (I don´t see Allen leap frogging Troy)
DT: Look for Hageman to slide inside on certain downs, as well as Jacobs & add Ferguson to the mix, Jacques is now an OG (His more natural position that he played throughout High School)
OLB: Aaron Hill in the mix as well as Singleton for LB depth (I expect our base will actually be Tinsley/Maresh lined up behind the DL with Cooper roaming)
CB: Collado / Lewis (No one´s seen Lewis play yet & while limited athletically, Collado does certain things very well)
 



I am not sure why everyone is so high on Rallis. I would much rather have some combination of these 4 as our backers....
Maresh
Cooper
Tinsley
Reeves

Rallis showed he was a hood enough athlete to play safety as a true frosh and showed himself to be a good tackler, if still a step slow at that spot. Now he's back at his natural spot (played there all through HS), word is that he's put on 20 lbs, maintained his speed, and is drawing praise for his mental ability to pick things up. He's a 230lb guy that's probably a legit 4.65 or 4.7 guy (which is good for a college LB) with a year of playing experience. A better question is why are so many people down on Rallis? At 210 he looked beastly out there and it was all muscle. At 230 I think he'll be an excellent LB. I had/have high hopes for Reeves and Singleton but neither have done a thing yet and Reeves looked small to me last year and I can't remember him making a single play on ST, so he'll have to show something to win a starting spot
 

Intelligence is a huge factor in college ball and can't be underestimated. Most teams try to keep their offenses realtively simple, and players who can predict a play will always have an advantage. It is one of Theret's better abilities which will keep him on the field. If Rallis contains the same ability I don't see how they will replace him. Being able to be in the right spot at the right time is a huge advantage, and allows you to be under control when you need to tackle.
 

QB: Gray / Weber...


I'm amazed (not really) that it took one line in a 24 line post to discredit the entire post. You can wish in one hand and **it in the other, and see which one fills up first...
 

I'm amazed (not really) that it took one line in a 24 line post to discredit the entire post. You can wish in one hand and **it in the other, and see which one fills up first...

Very intelligent post. Here's a paper sack; try thinking your way out of that.
 



QB: Gray, Weber
HB: Bennett, Eskridge
FB: Hoese
TE: Eure, Lair

WR: McKnight, Kiese
WR: Green, Carpenter
Slot: Allen, Stoudamire

RT: Wills, Olson
RG: Carufel, Bunders
C: Burris, Mottla
LG: Bunders, Michel
LT: Alford, Orton

DE: Hageman, KGM
DT: Kirksey, Jacobs
DT: Edwards, Jacques
DE: Wilhite, Garin

LB: Rallis, Reeves
LB: Tinsley, Maresh
LB: Cooper, Tatum

CB: Collado, Lewis
CB: Carter, Johnson
S: Royston, Thornton
S: Theret, Watkins
 

QB: Weber/Alipate
WR: Mcknight/Gray
Green/Carpenter
Slot: Stoudamire/Allen
 

Rallis......will start.....wait for it......all season
 

Rallis......will start.....wait for it......all season

I'm with you 100%. First of all Rallis is a very good football player. 2nd, the more MN talent capable of starting in the Big Ten the better it is for the program.

I think we should copy BA's plan for Wisconsin, close the boarder and sprinkle in out of state talent to fill the voids.
 


QB: Gray, Weber
HB: Bennett, Eskridge
FB: Hoese
TE: Eure, Lair

WR: McKnight, Kiese
WR: Green, Carpenter
Slot: Allen, Stoudamire

RT: Wills, Olson
RG: Carufel, Bunders
C: Burris, Mottla
LG: Bunders, Michel
LT: Alford, Orton

DE: Hageman, KGM
DT: Kirksey, Jacobs
DT: Edwards, Jacques
DE: Wilhite, Garin

LB: Rallis, Reeves
LB: Tinsley, Maresh
LB: Cooper, Tatum

CB: Collado, Lewis
CB: Carter, Johnson
S: Royston, Thornton
S: Theret, Watkins



Bunders better not be starting this year. He couldnt reach an LB to save his life
 

I'm with you 100%. First of all Rallis is a very good football player. 2nd, the more MN talent capable of starting in the Big Ten the better it is for the program.

I think we should copy BA's plan for Wisconsin, close the boarder and sprinkle in out of state talent to fill the voids.

That plan really worked out well for Wisconsin with all the National Championships Wisconsin won during Alvarez's tenure. Didn't they 3peat? or was it back to back to back to back National Championships?

We sure did dominate with John Shevlin, Mike Sherels, WVDS, and John Pawielski. oh how I long for those days again.
 

That plan really worked out well for Wisconsin with all the National Championships Wisconsin won during Alvarez's tenure. Didn't they 3peat? or was it back to back to back to back National Championships?

We sure did dominate with John Shevlin, Mike Sherels, WVDS, and John Pawielski. oh how I long for those days again.

They did play in mulitple Rose and January 1st bowls. I think most Gopher fans see that as our pinnacle instead of any illusions of being the next USC or Texas. I understand your goal is Nat'l Championship or bust, but that isn't the sentiment for 99% of Gopher fans.

As far as the days of Shevlin, Sherels, WVDS, and John Pawielski. First off, Pawieski was from Sconny.

But I think it is pretty obvious that the poster meant that he would have loved the U to completely lock down the borders, so those same teams would have also contained...
LB: James Laurinitus
WR: Larry Fitzgerald
OL: Ryan Harris
OL: Mark Levoir
TE: John Carlson
DT: Trevor Laws

Or do you think those guys would simply have not helped? I know they are from MN, so they must be junk, but I could see those guys maybe, just maybe, leading to another win or two.
 

Bunders better not be starting this year. He couldnt reach an LB to save his life

My original prediction/hope was:

Olson - Michel - Burris - Carufel - Wills

However, I posted Bunders as in contention for one of the guard positions because 1) Carufel has been called out, 2) Michel is young/inexperienced, and 3) Bunders was bumped up to starting LG sometime around the 2nd spring practice. I hope he's not starting either.
 

When did Hageman move to the DL?

Not sure if you're serious or not but if so since around the 2nd week of practice last year. In reality almost nobody thought he'd really be a TE in college
 

QB: Gray / Weber
HB: Bennett / Eskridge
FB: Hoese / NO IDEA
TE: Lair / Eure
RT: Wills / Olson
RG: Carufel / Bunders
C: Burris / Mottla
LG: Wynn / Michel
LT: Alford / Orton
WR: McKnight / Kiese
WR: Green / Hayo
Slot: Allen / Stoudamire

DE: Hageman / KGM
DT: Kirksey / Jacobs
DT: Edwards / Jacques
DE: Wilhite / Garin
OLB: Rallis / Reeves
MLB: Tinsley / Maresh
OLB: Cooper / Tatum
CB: C. Lewis / Collado
CB: Carter / Johnson
S: Royston / Thornton
S: Theret / Watkins

I guess I don't really expect any real big surprises. I do kind of expect Allen to beat out Stoudamire, I just think he is a much more natural receiver.

QB: Weber / Gray
RB: Bennett / Eskridge
FB: Hoese / Cotton
WR: Mcknight / Kiese
WR: Green / Barker
Slot: Stoudermire / Allen
LT: Alford / Michel
LG: Bunders / Orton
C: Burris / Wynn
RG: Carufel / Jacques
RT: Wills / Olson

DE: Hageman / Garin
DT: Kirskey / Jacobs
N: Edwards / Ferguson
DE: Gregory-Mcghee / Wilhite
OLB: Rallis / Reeves
MLB: Tinsley / Maresh
OLB: Cooper / Hill
CB: Collado / Lewis
FS: Royston / Klitzke (at least for spring game)
SS: Theret / Watkins
CB: Carter / Henderson
 

They did play in mulitple Rose and January 1st bowls. I think most Gopher fans see that as our pinnacle instead of any illusions of being the next USC or Texas. I understand your goal is Nat'l Championship or bust, but that isn't the sentiment for 99% of Gopher fans.

As far as the days of Shevlin, Sherels, WVDS, and John Pawielski. First off, Pawieski was from Sconny.

But I think it is pretty obvious that the poster meant that he would have loved the U to completely lock down the borders, so those same teams would have also contained...
LB: James Laurinitus
WR: Larry Fitzgerald
OL: Ryan Harris
OL: Mark Levoir
TE: John Carlson
DT: Trevor Laws

Or do you think those guys would simply have not helped? I know they are from MN, so they must be junk, but I could see those guys maybe, just maybe, leading to another win or two.

Thanks Bob Law, you stated my point exactly. I would also include to your list:
Brandon Robinson
John Stocco
Dominique Bird

If the gophers are able to lock down the boarders and keep all of the Mn top talent it will make success here that much easier. Imagine this years team with Sentrel Henderson competing at one tackle and Matt Slater at the other. Alexander Robinson at RB with David Gilreath and Issac Anderson at Wr. All of the kids have proven they can play and start on nationally ranked and/or bowl teams.
 

Lydon Murtha, Nate Swift, rafael eubanks maybe even walker ashley would have panned out if he stayed home, the list is endless, sportsfan24 is correct here, minnesota brings up enough talent to support its only university as long as the U closes the borders, which unfortunately wont ever happen
 

It's a two way street

Thanks Bob Law, you stated my point exactly. I would also include to your list:
Brandon Robinson
John Stocco
Dominique Bird

If the gophers are able to lock down the boarders and keep all of the Mn top talent it will make success here that much easier. Imagine this years team with Sentrel Henderson competing at one tackle and Matt Slater at the other. Alexander Robinson at RB with David Gilreath and Issac Anderson at Wr. All of the kids have proven they can play and start on nationally ranked and/or bowl teams.

Players like D. Byrd, T. Laws, LaVoir, (Too many Cretin players to name) etc. have to be open to the U as well. There are alums of Cretin that not only openly promote Notre Dame (and to a lesser extent Iowa), they talk as though the U is not even worthy of discussing.

I'm not letting The U of M's athletic department of the hook. I am just stating that there is much that needs to be done to make Gophers thee team(s) of choice.

TCF and hopefully winning will be a good start.
 

I agree with that as well, cretin does have something against staying home, but i have no idea how we let nate swift and lydon murtha get away
 

QB Weber/Gray
HB Eskridge/Bennett
FB Hoese

TE Eure/Lair
WR McKnight/Keise
WR Green/Gray?
Slot Stoudamire/Allen

RT Wills/Olsen
RG Carufel/Bunders
C Burris/Mottla
LG Wynn/Michel
LT Alford/Orton

DE Hageman/KGM
DT Kirksey/Jacobs
DT Edwards/Jacques
DE Wilhite/Garin

OLB Reeves/Rallis
MLB Tinsley/Maresh
OLB Cooper/Hill

CB Collado/Lewis
FS Royston/Thornton
SS Theret/Watkins
CB Carter/Johnson


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I just don't see Gray being able to overtake Weber this year, I just don't think he knows enough about being that pro-style qb yet

I do expect to see Gray at receiver at some times, he just has to much size and speed to not be used out there. He is a major mismatch for corners

The Defensive Line is so young and talented that i expect a lot of substitution packages, the most proven starter to me on the D-line is Edwards

Theres a lot of competition and talent in the linebacker corp, wouldn't suprise me if I was wrong about any or all of the starters there
 

I agree with that as well, cretin does have something against staying home, but i have no idea how we let nate swift and lydon murtha get away

Absolutely, positively not true. Asside from people on the outside making CDH hate the U stories up, I have never heard anyone affiliated with CDH say football player should go to Notre Dame over the U or anything negative about the U. People, CDH football staff consists mostly of former gopher players and a former gopher coach. I would bet no other MN highschool has more former gopher players on the football staff.

The truth is CDH football players tend to be recruited on a national level and have more options.
 




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