It’s Official; Gophers play New Mexico in Rate Bowl

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Not sure how much of their roster will play, but if 3/4 of our starting D-Line plus others opts out I don't feel great about our defense.
 


mggoph said:
The Rate Bowl gets its name from its title sponsor, the mortgage lending company Guaranteed Rate (now just "Rate"). The game was previously known as the Guaranteed Rate Bowl from 2020 until October 2024, when the sponsor rebranded its company name to "Rate," leading to the shortened "Rate Bowl" name.
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This has to be one of the dumbest rebrands I’ve ever heard of. Looking forward to future rebrands like Depot, Cost, maybe Donald’s.
 





tjgopher said:
Call me crazy, but let's assume your hypothetical is true......didn't you just construct the exact argument that would prove that Penn State did indeed jump us? Is that what you're trying to prove? Or, disprove?
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The conference treats those bottom three bowls as being on the same (last) tier, and so it views the last three teams (that go to those three bowls) as all being equivalent and interchangeable. So there is no such thing as one of those teams jumping the other. It was simple decisions based on regionality and in our case the Gopher preference for PHX.

The best you can do in that case is to see which of the three would still get to go to a Big Ten bowl if there were in fact only one game left. Minnesota would be that team, since we had the best record of the three.
 







GopherGrit said:
@Some guy

here's the hypothetical that would prove it.


Say that we have exactly the standings we have this year. Now say that, for whatever [make up a reason], the Rate and Detroit bowls were cancelled. Couldn't secure the venue, doesn't matter.

So that means the last bowl slot to fill is the Pinstripe, and you have Minnesota 5-4 7-5, Northwestern 4-5 6-6, and Penn State 3-6 6-6 left as bowl eligible teams.

Minnesota would get the Pinstripe. NW and PSU would have to go to non-Big Ten bowls.

That proves it.
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It’s a pretty interesting deal. But if the big ten doesn’t have enough teams to fill its bowls I would bet money dollars would make the choices
 



swede2 said:
Why does that matter to the Las Vegas bowl?
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I must not be understanding something. Didn't Nebraska get invited while many GHers felt the Gophers were more deserving? Could the reason be that sponsors expect more Nebraska fans than the Gophers would bring? What might influence that expectation is the understanding that Nebraska is a college sport market with an undivided fan base whole the Gophers play in a pro market that splits fan's loyalty and thus attention.
 

GopherGrit said:
The conference treats those bottom three bowls as being on the same (last) tier, and so it views the last three teams (that go to those three bowls) as all being equivalent and interchangeable. So there is no such thing as one of those teams jumping the other. It was simple decisions based on regionality and in our case the Gopher preference for PHX.

The best you can do in that case is to see which of the three would still get to go to a Big Ten bowl if there were in fact only one game left. Minnesota would be that team, since we had the best record of the three.
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The Big Ten really doesn't use a tiering system like it did from 2014-19. The bowls have more of an independent choice now and Pinstripe picked Penn State over Minnesota (which as you said was fine with the Big Ten and fine with Minnesota).

Still doesn't mean Minnesota didn't get passed over. It did. But, everyone was fine with it. And, as you said, it made geographical sense. But, let's be honest, if the Pinstripe really wanted the Gophers, they could have and would have gotten them.

Now, getting passed over by Vegas with the pick of Nebraska prior to that is much less palatable. That stinks, but it is reality. The Big Ten wasn't standing in the way.
 
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FanSinceTheFifties said:
I must not be understanding something. Didn't Nebraska get invited while many GHers felt the Gophers were more deserving? Could the reason be that sponsors expect more Nebraska fans than the Gophers would bring? What might influence that expectation is the understanding that Nebraska is a college sport market with an undivided fan base whole the Gophers play in a pro market that splits fan's loyalty and thus attention.
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It matters to the Las Vegas Bowl organization THAT Nebraska will likely bring a larger fan base than Minnesota.
It matters not one whit to them why.
 

USAF said:
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It matters to the Las Vegas Bowl organization THAT Nebraska will likely bring a large
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USAF said:
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It matters to the Las Vegas Bowl organization THAT Nebraska will likely bring a larger fan base than Minnesota.
It matters not one whit to them why.
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I give up. You're right. The organizers would have no reason to assume a bigger turnout for Nebraska. They would just guess.
 


USAF said:
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It matters to the Las Vegas Bowl organization THAT Nebraska will likely bring a larger fan base than Minnesota.
It matters not one whit to them why.
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I think the point that keeps getting overlooked is people treat the bowls like a meritocracy. They are at their core large marketing and advertising campaigns. There is some correlation to records and past performance (merit), but trying to split hairs over this bowl vs. that bowl is pointless. They want butts in seats and feet on the sidewalks. Other than passing through the airport a few times, I've never spent time in Phoenix, and I'm looking forward to it. Charlotte was cold.
 


GopherGrit said:
I love PHX and Arizona in the cold months, it's a great place to go and there are a ton of flights and flight competition to keep prices down.

Can easily see why people snowbird down there and folks even move down there.
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Have lived in Vegas for 25 years. I think that it is slightly cooler than Phoenix, during both summer and winter. That being said, its still too hot in the summer here and too cold in the winter. Went to the Rate Bowl a couple of years ago. It was rainy and miserable for that West Virginia game. Looks like the average high on Christmas is about 65. Check the forecast, warm clothes might be needed. Go Gophers!
 

Texan Gopher said:
And even worse than when Joe Biden f***** our entire country.
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Texan, I'm trying to determine if I met you and your wife at the bowl in Houston several years back. I'm probably off base, but did your wife go to a small Baptist college in Plainview, TX?
 







Yikes, this thread.
MNVCGUY said:
Great question. Ridiculous that the 3 morons having their political argument have been allowed to continue it this long.
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It's like two bums yelling at each other over the stall at Applebees in Forest Lake
 


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