Is it fair that Notre Dame is independent?

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Ope3 said:
Nebraska was AAU when they joined the Big 10.

If there is a way to give the Huskers the boot now that they no longer are AAU, I am all for it.
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They lost the status in 2011 I believe so I guess technically when they joined they were but we're not by the time they actually started competing
 

nitramnaed said:
Arizona State is not going to go anywhere without Arizona.
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I swear I once heard this about:

Texas A&M & Texas
Oklahoma & Oklahoma State
Oregon & Oregon State
UCLA & Cal
Washington & Washington State

… and probably a dozen or so others.
 

MaxyJR1 said:
As others have pointed out, they are part of the agreement and currently can’t get a bye.

Their schedule is tough to build not having conference to fall back on hoping their strength of schedule holds up.

Really can’t afford to lose two games.
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If we learned anything from this year, it is that sitting around for three and a half weeks is not really much of a competitive advantage.

It says a lot that NONE of the four teams that won their conference championship game and got a “bye” could win after sitting on their asses for almost an entire month.
 

Goldmember said:
I swear I once heard this about:

Texas A&M & Texas
Oklahoma & Oklahoma State
Oregon & Oregon State
UCLA & Cal
Washington & Washington State

… and probably a dozen or so others.
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The Arizona legislature is so screwy that they would probably threaten to zero appropriations to both schools if they split up.
 


Goldmember said:
If we learned anything from this year, it is that sitting around for three and a half weeks is not really much of a competitive advantage.

It says a lot that NONE of the four teams that won their conference championship game and got a “bye” could win after sitting on their asses for almost an entire month.
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Not if seeding is off. Oregon played tOSU, Georgia lost their QB and played ND who is good in hindsight. Boise State was not a top 4 team. ASU lost a 2 OT game. Yes they were 0-4 and I agree that it's not fair to sit for 3 weeks, but we might need more data.

Say they seeded 1-12

Oregon, Georgia, Texas and Penn State would have had byes

Oregon would have played Boise or Indiana
Georgia would have played Tennessee or Boise
Texas would have played tOSU or ASU
Penn State would have played ND or Clemson
 

Goldmember said:
If we learned anything from this year, it is that sitting around for three and a half weeks is not really much of a competitive advantage.

It says a lot that NONE of the four teams that won their conference championship game and got a “bye” could win after sitting on their asses for almost an entire month.
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To be fair it’s only a 4 game sample size.
Ohio state vs Oregon was a pick em for betters with or without the bye

Texas was a heavy favorite that needed overtime to beat a ASU team who got a bye

Georgia lost with the bye but was playing a guy making his first collegiate start.

Penn state was a favorite who won.


I don’t think you can say the bye didn’t help.
It may have been even worse for the 4 losers without the bye…well it couldn’t have been worse for Oregon
 

Goldmember said:
I swear I once heard this about:

Texas A&M & Texas
Oklahoma & Oklahoma State
Oregon & Oregon State
UCLA & Cal
Washington & Washington State

… and probably a dozen or so others.
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Just not the way it works in Arizona. The state has structured the two Universities differently than other states.
 

nitramnaed said:
Just not the way it works in Arizona. The state has structured the two Universities differently than other states.
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Arizona was headed to the big 12 without Arizona state in summer 2023

Then the pac fully imploded and Arizona state went too
 



Some guy said:
Arizona was headed to the big 12 without Arizona state in summer 2023

Then the pac fully imploded and Arizona state went too
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And only after it became clear to them they weren’t getting an invite to come to the Big Ten along with Washington and Oregon.
 


ESPN is extending it's deal with the ACC through 2036. As part of the agreement there are provisions to kick in more dough to Florida St, Clemson & Miami (FL) who will also play Notre Dame more often.

FSU and Clemson are dropping their lawsuits.

sports.yahoo.com

Sources: ACC in process of extending TV contract with ESPN for 9 more years

The extension paves the way for the league to potentially finalize a settlement with Clemson and Florida State that would keep them in the conference.
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Some guy said:
You think adding 14 games is 200 million extra dollars?
To raise the revenue by 10 million per school you need 400 million.

Is a notre dame game worth 14 million to a network?
28 million per game?

The notre Dame TV contract right now doesn’t think so.

Can’t add one school without changing number of conference games because 19*9 is an odd number
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The big ten pretty much said Florida state doesn’t add enough revenue

They also said they have no interest in Florida state apart from the ACC so long as there is an ACC.
Meaning. 20 is never happening.

It’s going to be 18 until the Big 12 and/or ACC implode and it’ll be 28, 30, or 32
 


Ope3 said:
ESPN is extending it's deal with the ACC through 2036. As part of the agreement there are provisions to kick in more dough to Florida St, Clemson & Miami (FL) who will also play Notre Dame more often.

FSU and Clemson are dropping their lawsuits.

sports.yahoo.com

Sources: ACC in process of extending TV contract with ESPN for 9 more years

The extension paves the way for the league to potentially finalize a settlement with Clemson and Florida State that would keep them in the conference.
sports.yahoo.com sports.yahoo.com
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Also mentioned potential changes to the Grant of Rights exit fees...possibly reducing them.
 


GophersInIowa said:
They should just put all 134 teams together into one conference called FBS and then break down the FBS conference into sub-conferences made up of 10-12 teams that are geographically close to each other.
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Would not make enough money
 

Ope3 said:
ESPN is extending it's deal with the ACC through 2036. As part of the agreement there are provisions to kick in more dough to Florida St, Clemson & Miami (FL) who will also play Notre Dame more often.

FSU and Clemson are dropping their lawsuits.

sports.yahoo.com

Sources: ACC in process of extending TV contract with ESPN for 9 more years

The extension paves the way for the league to potentially finalize a settlement with Clemson and Florida State that would keep them in the conference.
sports.yahoo.com sports.yahoo.com
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Did FSU "win"?

I thought they were getting out of the ACC so they could join the Big Ten or SEC?
 

GopherGrit said:
Did FSU "win"?

I thought they were getting out of the ACC so they could join the Big Ten or SEC?
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I wouldn't say that Fla St "won". Didn't lose seems more accurate.

They have been mollified by the ACC for the time being.
 

Ope3 said:
I wouldn't say that Fla St "won". Didn't lose seems more accurate.

They have been mollified by the ACC for the time being.
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Wonder if that was their goals, all along?

They certainly appeared to be breathing fire two years ago after being left out of the CFP. Of course would've been in with the new format
 

GopherGrit said:
Wonder if that was their goals, all along?

They certainly appeared to be breathing fire two years ago after being left out of the CFP. Of course would've been in with the new format
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Could be.

You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometime you get what you need.
 



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