march madness
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If PJ Fleck can be moderately successful here, why can’t a basketball coach?
Agree, but that investment includes hiring a proven coachYou get what you put into the program.
Administration has invested in the football program. For whatever reason they have decided that investing in the basketball program at the same level is not worth it.
This goes farther than who the coach is.
Moderate success was Richard Pitino.If PJ Fleck can be moderately successful here, why can’t a basketball coach?
Moderate success is winning 40-50% of your conference games. Clem Haskins won just under 50%. Tubby Smith won 43%. Dan Monson won 39%.Moderate success was Richard Pitino.
Moderate success is winning 40-50% of your conference games. Clem Haskins won just under 50%. Tubby Smith won 43%. Dan Monson won 39%.
Richard Pitino won 34%. That's not moderate success, it's bad.
Ben Johnson has won 25% and that % is likely to drop this year. That's just pathetic.
Pitino earned his firing, in part because his 34% should probably have been closer to 45% based on the high end talent he had on his rosters. But I believe that he was comparable to the success of PJ. Some bad years, some good, but in most years, we were a bubble ish team prior to the February tank. March is what matters to me and I always had at least a glimmer of hope at all times under the last regime.Moderate success is winning 40-50% of your conference games. Clem Haskins won just under 50%. Tubby Smith won 43%. Dan Monson won 39%.
Richard Pitino won 34%. That's not moderate success, it's bad.
Ben Johnson has won 25% and that % is likely to drop this year. That's just pathetic.
Let's go further:Moderate success is winning 40-50% of your conference games. Clem Haskins won just under 50%. Tubby Smith won 43%. Dan Monson won 39%.
Richard Pitino won 34%. That's not moderate success, it's bad.
Ben Johnson has won 25% and that % is likely to drop this year. That's just pathetic.
We need better scandals. Or drop the self-righteousness. Or both.2 scandals in a 10 yr span set the U back. Then went to ‘never again land’.
Did you already forget what happened this off-season? Building a team is obsolete.I believe a coach who actually knows how to build a program can.
Maybe try hiring a coach with at least some experience and a proven track record next time.
Nowhere to go but up.Let's go further:
Musselman 63%
Dutcher 52%
Clem 50%
Monson 39%
Tubby 43%
Pitino 34%
Ben 25%
Nearly straight down hill. Tubby was a brief mogul on the way to the bottom of the slope.
Building a team is all the NCAA is about now. Building a program might be obsolete. Anyone can pull together enough to take a big swing with enough cash.Did you already forget what happened this off-season? Building a team is obsolete.
To answer the original question:
Oh sure, there might be a coach who can use a strategy of being mediocre. But if we try to actually contend for anything...the players will get bought by other teams. Also, PJ's 1 contending team was a once-in-a-lifetime feat...and before free agency.
But I believe that he was comparable to the success of PJ. Some bad years, some good, but in most years, we were a bubble ish team prior to the February tank.
Anyone can pull together enough to take a big swing with enough cash.
I will continue to compare PJ to Pitino and there is nothing you can do about it. Pjs teams shoot themselves in the foot early in the season for most years to have real hope.PJ has been here for 7 FULL seasons (not counting the short 2020 one). He's had two losing seasons among those. Pitino had four outright losing seasons out of his eight. No, they weren't comparable. A losing season isn't excused if the team was doing reasonably well through the first two thirds of it.
You can win anywhere in college football and basketball. Look at Indiana football. Hired a good coach and they’re heading to the playoff. Find a coach and you will win.If PJ Fleck can be moderately successful here, why can’t a basketball coach?
And when you win the NIL $$ will start to flow.You can win anywhere in college football and basketball. Look at Indiana football. Hired a good coach and they’re heading to the playoff. Find a coach and you will win.
True. I meant that building a team has nothing to do with coaching. And our administration will never pay for good players.Building a team is all the NCAA is about now. Building a program might be obsolete. Anyone can pull together enough to take a big swing with enough cash.
We don't lack cash. That's propaganda. We could have kept Payne & Hawkins if we wanted to.That's probably true but lacking cash is a big part of the problem.
Every year, there are 1-2 football teams (out of 100) and 3-4 basketball teams (out of 300) that you can point to.You can win anywhere in college football and basketball. Look at Indiana football. Hired a good coach and they’re heading to the playoff. Find a coach and you will win.
Those $$ won't go to football or men's basketball.And when you win the NIL $$ will start to flow.
Can you explain to me why we didn't "want to" keep Payne & Hawkins?We don't lack cash. That's propaganda. We could have kept Payne & Hawkins if we wanted to.
Winning only 2 NCAA games in the last 27 years...at Minnesota...doesn't happen by accident. It's a concerted effort.