If I was Brewster, I'd look to bolt...

[dpodoll68]

I'm sure you noticed, howeda7, that when the All-Academic teams were announced a short while ago, the story was headlining the sports section of every local newspaper, as well as leading the sports that night on all the local news stations.

 

[howeda7]

I'm sure you noticed, howeda7, that when the All-Academic teams were announced a short while ago, the story was headlining the sports section of every local newspaper, as well as leading the sports that night on all the local news stations.

I didn't notice that, either in the Minneapolis paper or here in Charlottesville. Should I have?

 

[lakesgopher]

You would never let facts get in the way of this take, would you? All 3 of us at different points have had opportunities for jobs in other markets ... and Barreiro came from the Dallas newspaper, so he was elsewhere before coming here in 1987.
And, as I say all the time, please point out to me where I have been factually wrong? It's possible I have been, so please point out.

doogie,
it really pisses me off when you act like your a victim! the majority of this board agree your very negative. how can so many people be wrong and come up with the same opinion? just because we arent going out and snatching examples of your writings doesnt mean we are wrong! i would assume a lot of us have jobs and dont have the time or the luxury to be going through all of your writings to prove that you are nothing more then a negative nancy!

if you want to go through my posts and say im a brew apologist, that is fine. i dont think the man is above being criticized, but i will not think that he came into a situation that could lead to success in 2-3 years. i am a believer that whoever was to take over for mason was looking into a 4-6 year project. the new coach had to come in and recruit, rebuild relationships between the U and minny high schools, build hype to start the transition from a losing attitude to something to be proud of, etc. a new stadium was not all the hype! you put lipstick on a pig and its still a pig.

tonight when i get home from work i will cut and paste as many comments of yours speaking negatively about this program. that is if i have time, im going to the home depot. looking for wall paper, maybe head over to wall coverings...i dont know if we will have time...its a busy night!

 

[dpodoll68]

I didn't notice that, either in the Minneapolis paper or here in Charlottesville. Should I have?

My point exactly. It was barely even covered, because it was something positive. It was relegated to a back page and consisted of one small paragraph with the list of names.

I think the "bad media" angle has been beaten to death, buried, dug up, cut up into little pieces, eaten, and then defecated into a hole on this website. Nonetheless, it cannot be argued that the media, for whatever reason, produces probably 25-30 negative stories for every positive when it comes to the Gophers. The great majority of these are aimed at Brewster. This is because he has the audacity to be positive in a state full of cynics.

 

[Schnoodler]

No kidding...they spent/raised 288.5 million dollars to give the marching band a new home...what about the football team?????

that is funny. but we both know I'm talking about the fence sitting whilst our top recruits bolt to more stable programs.

 

[lakesgopher]

I don't care if he sells his big dreams to his recruits, in fact I hope he does, that's his job. And I don't knock him for the initial Rose Bowl comments, though he should at least have known he was opening himself up to future critisism by saying it.

But the constant blathering of positivity in the media even when what has just happened on the field does nothing to support it makes him look like a fool at times. When your team plays terrible, there's nothing wrong with saying so, and refusing to do so doesn't make you some breath of fresh air. He also could have backed off the 'Rose Bowl' type comments after the initial press conference but he has pressed on in bringing it up over and over.

Do you think that Tubby Smith doesn't tell his recruits that he thinks he can win a Big 10 title and make a run at a Final Four? I'm guessing he does. But he doesn't blather on in the media about it. I realize he didn't have to make these kinds of bold statements to announce himself when he arrived. Brewster did. And again I have no problem with the initial bravado. But given a chance to tone it down and shut up and coach he has chosen to continue full steam ahead. To ask the media to ignore some of the things he said and not call him out them is to ask them to be blind homers.

when tubby smith came to campus everyone who has picked up a basketball knew his name. besides that, the bball program wasnt as bad in the last 40 years as football was. on top of that gopher hoops has always had a solid fan following compared to the fair weather fans the football program has!

when you have a track record and a big name, you can do whatever you want. when tubby walks into a living room kids realize they are a top tier athlete and they are being chased by the top coaches in the country.

when brew walks into a living room he actually has to make a real sale. he cant use his name to bring in whoever he wants, he has to be genuine and positive. not only to make the kid believe he has a plan for the future but to make him believe minnesota can be a success. comparing apples to oranges doesnt work. 1 player can change a basketball program, it takes depth and luck in college football. i think we are close to the depth all we need now is some luck!

 

[dpodoll68]

tonight when i get home from work i will cut and paste as many comments of yours speaking negatively about this program. that is if i have time, im going to the home depot. looking for wall paper, maybe head over to wall coverings...i dont know if we will have time...its a busy night!

Any chance you'll be taking a trip to Bed, Bath, and Beyond?

 

[howeda7]

My point exactly. It was barely even covered, because it was something positive. It was relegated to a back page and consisted of one small paragraph with the list of names.

I think the "bad media" angle has been beaten to death, buried, dug up, cut up into little pieces, eaten, and then defecated into a hole on this website. Nonetheless, it cannot be argued that the media, for whatever reason, produces probably 25-30 negative stories for every positive when it comes to the Gophers. The great majority of these are aimed at Brewster. This is because he has the audacity to be positive in a state full of cynics.

But I now live in Charlottesville, VA market #212, where they have no other sports to cover but all things UVa. So you'd think the all-academic teams may have been a big story here at least, right? I mean, UVa's a great school and always has lots of kids on the ACC all-academic team. But did they cover it here? Barely, on the back page, just like Minneapolis. Is there an evil media out to get UVa too? There are people on thier message boards who believe that too. Even though there's only one legit tv station and one newspaper.

 

[lakesgopher]

in VA did you have local media personalities talking about running a coach out of town as soon as he was hired?

 

[howeda7]

in VA did you have local media personalities talking about running a coach out of town as soon as he was hired?

I don't know. I wasn't hear when Al Groh was hired. He came from the NFL on a white horse to suceed a legend and he was an Alumn. So probably not. But I've lived here for 5 years, and they've been talking about running him out of town the entire time. They stopped to take a breath while they were going 10-2 and playing a New Year's Day Bowl. They resumed about 3 games into the next season. And Al Groh is the anti-Brewster, so they ripped him for never talking to the media and for forbidding his assistants from doing so. One of the first qustions to Mike London this week was 'will your assistants have voices'?

Every coach who isn't firmly established has to deal with some media pressure. Is it harder in the #13th media market that those with 3 digits like many of our competitors? Yes. As I say, tough beans. It was the 13th media market when he took the job. He knew what he was getting into. Or he didn't. Which is sad.

 

[Doogie]

doogie,
it really pisses me off when you act like your a victim! the majority of this board agree your very negative. how can so many people be wrong and come up with the same opinion? just because we arent going out and snatching examples of your writings doesnt mean we are wrong! i would assume a lot of us have jobs and dont have the time or the luxury to be going through all of your writings to prove that you are nothing more then a negative nancy!

if you want to go through my posts and say im a brew apologist, that is fine. i dont think the man is above being criticized, but i will not think that he came into a situation that could lead to success in 2-3 years. i am a believer that whoever was to take over for mason was looking into a 4-6 year project. the new coach had to come in and recruit, rebuild relationships between the U and minny high schools, build hype to start the transition from a losing attitude to something to be proud of, etc. a new stadium was not all the hype! you put lipstick on a pig and its still a pig.

tonight when i get home from work i will cut and paste as many comments of yours speaking negatively about this program. that is if i have time, im going to the home depot. looking for wall paper, maybe head over to wall coverings...i dont know if we will have time...its a busy night!

Of the people who post on this board, I can't disagree ... of the people I talk to on a regular basis who read this board, but don't post, we share a lot of the same thoughts ... I have praised the staff (recruitment of DTs), showered endless love upon Weber and Decker, but have also pointed out the deficiencies -- 2 straight years No. 1 in the Big Ten in penalties, play-calling, use of timeouts, Pound the Rock, 3rd down defense, etc... I attempt to bring balance, but the fact of the matter is ... this year produced more downers than uppers ... in a sport where offense is the name of the game (just the college game, not the NFL), they struggled mightily. The team got worse as the year went on for a 3rd-straight year. That is something that shouldn't be pointed out?

 

[howeda7]

Of the people who post on this board, I can't disagree ... of the people I talk to on a regular basis who read this board, but don't post, we share a lot of the same thoughts ... I have praised the staff (recruitment of DTs), showered endless love upon Weber and Decker, but have also pointed out the deficiencies -- 2 straight years No. 1 in the Big Ten in penalties, play-calling, use of timeouts, Pound the Rock, 3rd down defense, etc... I attempt to bring balance, but the fact of the matter is ... this year produced more downers than uppers ... in a sport where offense is the name of the game (just the college game, not the NFL), they struggled mightily. The team got worse as the year went on for a 3rd-straight year. That is something that shouldn't be pointed out?

I find your articles basically fair Doogie. I don't think some on this board think anyone other then Sid and Dave Mona are objective and fair to the Gophers. Even Reusse wrote what could be construed as a positive column after the Michigan State game calling it Brew's 'biggest win.' But no one wants to hear that I guess.

 

[Schnoodler]

Yes it should be pointed out. But perspective and context please. There are good things. And a bad offense does not paint the whole picture, nor does it address the bigger factor which is that Brewster's strength is his recruiting. His strength isn't being represented on the field yet. It's just really crappy analysis over and over from our so called experts. As a fan you can be excused by having your own opinion however ignorant it might be. As a so called expert you can't be excused from crappy analysis.

 

[Doogie]

How many of his current commits have other BCS offers? The recruiting this year seems to have taken a step backward.

 

[Schnoodler]

It has now. It was fine up until they started bolting. Very comparable to the others even if third. It would have moved us into a situation where we would have easily had the fourth highest team talent. Now not so much. I guarantee this is the result of the negativity campaigned by your good buddies. Good job, you all should be very proud.

 

[Bronko Nagurski Gopher]

What I notice is a lot of negative reporting, which certainly is justifiable in the name of objectivity. BUT what seems to be missing is a fair amount of positive reporting on all the good things associated with Gopher football. Where are the human interest stories? Oh, that's right, human interest stories about Gopher athletes don't sell papers, because only Gopher fans care about them. All the non-Gopher fans, which outnumber Gopher fans 5 to 1, really prefer the negative angles. Better reading for them, so they can snicker with a mouth full of Fruit Loops in the morning.

Tim Brewster is despised by the media because he's a salesman as well as a football coach. If you're a columnist, you apparently have motivation to prove to your audience that you are smart. Smart to the point that you see through the salesman schtick and are hell bent on proving it. The thing is, we all can see he's a salesmen, and a lot of us happen to like it. So I wish the media would stop trying to prove their worth to us. Please.

+1

very well said

 

[Bronko Nagurski Gopher]

It has now. It was fine up until they started bolting. Very comparable to the others even if third. It would have moved us into a situation where we would have easily had the fourth highest team talent. Now not so much. I guarantee this is the result of the negativity campaigned by your good buddies. Good job, you all should be very proud.

+1

if anything, it certainly played a part. as schnoodler said.......the local "i am so smart" media blow-hards should be oh so proud of themselves! yea!

 

[GophersInIowa]

Happen to listen to Barreiro on the Sunday after Thanksgiving I believe. Him and his hawkeyes sidekick (can't remember his name) talked about their new favorite team, South Dakota St. and how they had lost to Montana after being up so much the day before. Along the way, they took a bunch of shots about Brewster and the Gophers because of the bad game against SDSU a few weeks earlier. No doubt we played horrible in that game and the Gophers deserved to be criticized and even made fun of by guys like Barreiro to some degree. I don't mind that. But when these two were just going on and on, and sounding like a bunch of junior high kids making fun of one of their classmates, it just got old. Is this all you can come up with for their show? I don't understand how people can listen to the same thing over and over like that. It's just being lazy in my mind. "Let's just make fun of Brewster and the Gophers the whole time, then I don't have to do any research or anything!"

 

[Firejumper]

Where are the human interest stories about the latest project taken on the Twins Community Fund or what charitable work the Vikings did this Tuesday? Does 'the media' hate them too? In the 13th media market with diminished staffs at both TV stations and newspapers, you're not going to get those type of 'fluff' stories anymore. In this market you probably never got them. In Iowa City you still will because there is nothing else to cover when it comes to sports. It has nothing to do with the media 'hating' the Gophers.

It's a reality of this market and the time we live in. Give them something positive to write about on the field (there was plenty of good press up and throug the Air Force game) and they will write about it. Give them something bad to write about on the field and they will. Get in trouble off the field, and they'll write about that too, especially if high-profile players are involved. Why? Because it effects what happens on the field. So, in a sense the deck is stacked 2-1 against you. But it's the same way for the Vikings, and they've had thier share of bad press. It's the same way for the Twins too, but I can't even think of the last time I saw a current Twin get in trouble and end up in the paper that way.

It well be Tim Brewster's personality to be the way he is. And this media market may be tougher to handle then Iowa City or Madison. But honestly, tough beans. There are advantages and disadvatages to being in a bigger market. Part of his job is dealing with the media. And if he knows the car-salesman schtick means the media's coming after him harder, he can tone it down and shut up and coach. That doesn't mean he can't turn his charming self back on when he's in a recruits home. The idea that he has to radiate blind optimism 24/7/365 is silly. He needs to be able to compartmentelize a bit.

I never said the media hates the Gophers, I said they hate Brewster. They simply write negatively because that's what they think will sell papers, they think Minnesotans like to make fun of the Gophers, and the point is, I think that is misguided thinking. As for the Vikings getting bad press, with the Arizona game last week we saw a team about as competitive as the Gophers trying to beat PSU or OSU, but I don't see a lot of articles ripping Childress, ripping the owner, ripping the fans, etc.

 

[Golden Shower]

The guy has been treated by the media in this town as nothing but dirt the minute he got to Minnesota. He had a rough first season, but has done as well as his predecessor ever since, yet still gets grief. He gets grief when it is his fault, and when it isn't his fault. As the head coach, I suppose that comes with the territory.

But that said, the guy is one of the lowest-paid football HCs at a BCS school, has made huge attempts to get the support of the student body and the state's high schools, has made good strides in the recruiting area, and has attempted to fix holes in coaching (whether those holes actually existed or not). He works tirelessly, and aims for the top (with horrible consequences in public opinion because of those goals).

The guy has simply never been given a fair shake here. And it appears that he never will be; though perhaps he will if he gets the program to a big-time bowl (which cannot happen with big recruits turning away because of contract and media-induced issues). A guy comes to the state who has enthusiasm - perhaps too much - and has been roundly criticized from day one because of that enthusiasm. That's pretty sad, if you think about it - the people of the state are so miserable that they gang up against a guy who was trying to get them excited and cheered up.

Brewster cannot succeed here. Minnesota likes downbeat, pathetic, negative ninnies. We dig that right up. (What other explanation is there as to why Reusse, Barriero, or Doogie have jobs? - they wouldn't find jobs in many other areas of the country.) We love being miserable. If there wasn't something to bitch about, would a Minnesotan ever talk?

If I were Brewster, I would get out of here too. If, indeed, he is in cahoots with Kansas, then who could blame him? (Especially compared to his predecessor, who looked for an opportunity to bolt before being roundly beaten down by the press.) And then the football program will be back to square one again; trying to build up to possible conference title runs in another decade or maybe two. Because we really don't want to succeed, to win, to support our home team; no, we really just want to bitch; and we most like to bitch at those whose view of life is glass half-full instead of the glass almost-empty view that Minnesotans think everyone is supposed to have. Bitching is so much more fun.

-cncmin

Only LOSERS, QUITERS and PU$$IES would feel this way and I don't think our coach is any of those!

 

[Donovan]

Has anybody lived in Atlanta, Denver or Phoenix for at least a few years? I'm curious how the coverage of University of Georgia, Georgia Tech, the University of Colorado and Arizona State compares to our local media. On the other hand, I'm guessing the media in places like Laramie are probably easy on the Wyoming Cowboy's (just a feeling).

 

[cncmin]

You would never let facts get in the way of this take, would you? All 3 of us at different points have had opportunities for jobs in other markets ... and Barreiro came from the Dallas newspaper, so he was elsewhere before coming here in 1987.

I think I can speak for most of us when I say that we all wish you the best in finding a different job.

 

[cncmin]

But the constant blathering of positivity in the media even when what has just happened on the field does nothing to support it makes him look like a fool at times.

What the **** are you smoking, dude?! Name one source of media that is constantly positive about the Gopher program.

 

[cncmin]

I don't know. I wasn't hear when Al Groh was hired. He came from the NFL on a white horse to suceed a legend and he was an Alumn. So probably not. But I've lived here for 5 years, and they've been talking about running him out of town the entire time. They stopped to take a breath while they were going 10-2 and playing a New Year's Day Bowl. They resumed about 3 games into the next season. And Al Groh is the anti-Brewster, so they ripped him for never talking to the media and for forbidding his assistants from doing so. One of the first qustions to Mike London this week was 'will your assistants have voices'?

Every coach who isn't firmly established has to deal with some media pressure. Is it harder in the #13th media market that those with 3 digits like many of our competitors? Yes. As I say, tough beans. It was the 13th media market when he took the job. He knew what he was getting into. Or he didn't. Which is sad.

There's a HUGE difference between college town sports coverage and the TC media. It's not even close. I lived in a huge college town for over half a decade (State College) and even lived through the "down" JoePa years there. While I suppose his being a legend and all prevented him from a torch and pitchfork mob mentality, times never really got that bad even when things looked "hopeless". In fact, I'd say that the national media was much harder on JoePa than the local media. And perhaps, Howeda, by your theories, can you explain to me why Jerry Dunn and Ed Dechellis, with regularly bottom-feeding basketball programs - and the entire basketball team - consistently gets a fair shake in the local media? Rarely, if ever, does an article all-out mock the basketball team. There are plenty of positive stories, however. The Penn State people wonder out loud if Dechellis is the answer - and still the local media refuses to mock him, though they don't make the situation out to be totally positive - they're very fair.

I now live in Pittsburgh, which, while smaller than the TCs, does love its sports! They actually have a sports personality here self-proclaimed "The Super-genius" Mark Madden, who predicted before the Steelers season that the Steelers would go undefeated this year because there were "no tough games on the schedule." The Steelers have hit the crapper this year. And how much has Mark Madden mocked the team or the coach? Very little. Sure there is a down attitude in the media here about the Steelers, but it's more disbelief than any mocking of Tomlin or the team. How much has Mark Madden been mocked for being such a total idiot? Well, if his rise to 2nd in the ratings means anything - none.

The Pittsburgh media is all about the Steelers. So, that must mean poor, poor Pitt Panthers, right? I mean, since they love the Steelers, then the media must want to bash the Panthers, right? That's the way it works. LA papers should bash UCLA and USC to pieces. Chicago papers should bash Northwestern to bits. Austin papers should shred the Longhorns consistently. Or not. In Pittsburgh, consistently there have been lots of positive articles, few negative ones, even when Wannstedt looked to be a total baffoon losing control of the program, losing plenty of games that he never should have been. And where are the Panthers now? Well, they haven't won the Big East yet, but Wannstedt, given enough time and support (given support - even though he's always seemed like a complete dumbass) now has them competing near the top of the conference. And he's able to bring a top-25 recruiting class into town consistently, with an under-achieving program, AND huge competition on three near sides (OSU, PSU, WVU). He was allowed time to develop the program. Do you think the local media refusing to create a feeding frenzy when "Wannie" the idiot was having big problems his first few years has anything to do with the fact that local kids actually want to play for the idiot coach? Just possibly?

As for UVa, and I've said this before; UVa has this elitist attitude that they're always better than everyone else. Everyone out East knows this. UVa is in its own little smug, elitist world. You and that town deserve each other, Howeda.

 

[cncmin]

Of the people who post on this board, I can't disagree ... of the people I talk to on a regular basis who read this board, but don't post, we share a lot of the same thoughts ... I have praised the staff (recruitment of DTs), showered endless love upon Weber and Decker, but have also pointed out the deficiencies -- 2 straight years No. 1 in the Big Ten in penalties, play-calling, use of timeouts, Pound the Rock, 3rd down defense, etc... I attempt to bring balance, but the fact of the matter is ... this year produced more downers than uppers ... in a sport where offense is the name of the game (just the college game, not the NFL), they struggled mightily. The team got worse as the year went on for a 3rd-straight year. That is something that shouldn't be pointed out?

The team did not get worse as the year went along in 2007. Some would say they improved significantly. So you'll have to explain that "3rd-straight year" part.

And the past two years, their best player got injured for the rest of the season, which coincided precisely with the timing of the slide. Perhaps that had something to do with the slide? Just perhaps?

Showering endless praise on Weber is not a good thing. He hasn't deserved praise except for one game this year. That said, there is no reason that the local media would ever have to rip the kid, either - so do you get a push on this one? You were positive, even though you shouldn't have been; but you weren't negative, so...yay, do you want a cookie?

The problems that we have with you Doogie are not that you would ever post facts, and it's not whether you have talent or not (you seem to have some), it's when you join the lynch mob and publicly attack the program in your opinions. What part of that don't you understand? I think we'd really appreciate you here if you just stuck to the facts and, perhaps, posted your opinions here, but not publicly bash the program at every opportunity. That's called being a traitor. And because you are a constant traitor, I don't think you have as many supporters as you think you have. Just because you are just like the other media tools in the TC area doesn't mean you are like - or liked by - the fans of the program you are covering.

 

[cncmin]

How many of his current commits have other BCS offers? The recruiting this year seems to have taken a step backward.

Do you honestly believe that you and the local media have nothing to do with that? I mean seriously. I'm sure there are more important factors to the equation, but you guys affect the attitude of potential fans and potential recruits. Your hero Reusse even implies as much.

 

[cncmin]

Only LOSERS, QUITERS and PU$$IES would feel this way and I don't think our coach is any of those!

Yeah, no reason for Brewster to look for a lot more money at a place where he might actually be wanted. Who would ever want those things? Every person should be miserable in life.

I suppose Tubby is a loser, quitter, and pu$$y too for leaving the Kentucky situation?

Is your screen name also indicative of your portrayed intelligence?

So many questions to answer for you, so little time to hunt and peck keys on the keyboard.

 

[howeda7]

What the **** are you smoking, dude?! Name one source of media that is constantly positive about the Gopher program.

Learn to read and don't take one line out of context. I was referring to Brewster's positive blathering in the media even after losses that gave him absolutely nothing to be positive about. Yes he's still given mulitple media venues to do this.

 

[howeda7]

There's a HUGE difference between college town sports coverage and the TC media. It's not even close. I lived in a huge college town for over half a decade (State College) and even lived through the "down" JoePa years there. While I suppose his being a legend and all prevented him from a torch and pitchfork mob mentality, times never really got that bad even when things looked "hopeless". In fact, I'd say that the national media was much harder on JoePa than the local media. And perhaps, Howeda, by your theories, can you explain to me why Jerry Dunn and Ed Dechellis, with regularly bottom-feeding basketball programs - and the entire basketball team - consistently gets a fair shake in the local media? Rarely, if ever, does an article all-out mock the basketball team. There are plenty of positive stories, however. The Penn State people wonder out loud if Dechellis is the answer - and still the local media refuses to mock him, though they don't make the situation out to be totally positive - they're very fair.

I now live in Pittsburgh, which, while smaller than the TCs, does love its sports! They actually have a sports personality here self-proclaimed "The Super-genius" Mark Madden, who predicted before the Steelers season that the Steelers would go undefeated this year because there were "no tough games on the schedule." The Steelers have hit the crapper this year. And how much has Mark Madden mocked the team or the coach? Very little. Sure there is a down attitude in the media here about the Steelers, but it's more disbelief than any mocking of Tomlin or the team. How much has Mark Madden been mocked for being such a total idiot? Well, if his rise to 2nd in the ratings means anything - none.

The Pittsburgh media is all about the Steelers. So, that must mean poor, poor Pitt Panthers, right? I mean, since they love the Steelers, then the media must want to bash the Panthers, right? That's the way it works. LA papers should bash UCLA and USC to pieces. Chicago papers should bash Northwestern to bits. Austin papers should shred the Longhorns consistently. Or not. In Pittsburgh, consistently there have been lots of positive articles, few negative ones, even when Wannstedt looked to be a total baffoon losing control of the program, losing plenty of games that he never should have been. And where are the Panthers now? Well, they haven't won the Big East yet, but Wannstedt, given enough time and support (given support - even though he's always seemed like a complete dumbass) now has them competing near the top of the conference. And he's able to bring a top-25 recruiting class into town consistently, with an under-achieving program, AND huge competition on three near sides (OSU, PSU, WVU). He was allowed time to develop the program. Do you think the local media refusing to create a feeding frenzy when "Wannie" the idiot was having big problems his first few years has anything to do with the fact that local kids actually want to play for the idiot coach? Just possibly?

As for UVa, and I've said this before; UVa has this elitist attitude that they're always better than everyone else. Everyone out East knows this. UVa is in its own little smug, elitist world. You and that town deserve each other, Howeda.

More then anything, the difference between the 'college towns' and the major markets is the amount of coverage the team gets, not how positive or negative it is. In State College all of the PSU sports are going to get coverage. No, the basketball coaches probably don't face a lot of heat, because they don't care that much about it. And of coure JoPA is going to be pretty immune from criticism, even during down periods. If a coach at Minnesota had his track record, he'd be immune too. If Brewster had nearly a deade as an NFL head coach the way 'Wannie' does he'd have been given a lot more rope. Brewster faced the critics faster then he probably deserved to initially, I'll grant you that. But this whole defeatest attitude that the entire TC media just hates Gopher sports and is trying to bring it down is ridiculous. If that were true they would have jumped all over Mason and Monson. Clem wouldn't have been highly regarded until the end, etc.

And yes there are people at UVA who have that elitest attitude. But like any stero-type it's not fair to paint with a broad brush. In any case, I have little to do with the university on a daily basis and outside of the core downtown there are more Hokies around then Hoos.

 

[GoGophers2005]

LAZY!!!!!
That is the perfect word for the media in this town....not sure who said that above here but thank you for that word.

I would love to sit down with Danny B. and have him break down next years Gopher football team for me. 100 bucks says he couldn't do it. That is my problem with these guys. If you are going to endlessly pick apart a 3 point victory over SDSU you need to be able to name more than 2 players currently on the Gopher team (Weber and Decker).

It's like a broken record with Danny B....Brew this, Brew that, Brew is a terrible coach, Brew says the Gophers are going to the Rose Bowl. Instead of taking cheap easy shots, why not spend the time and actually break down this Gopher team intelligently? I NEVER hear anyone in the media state that the program lacks a legit Big Ten running back. They just say the offense stinks and Brew should be fired. Well why does the offense stink?