Half time adjustments (lack thereof)

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It’s unusual to see such a competitive game going into halftime then an absolute blowout on both sides of the ball in the second half. Iowa clearly made halftime adjustments which we were not able to counter. Very disappointing to see such a good defense get absolutely torched on the ground.

What are everyone’s productive thoughts? Why do we continually struggle to play chess after halftime adjustments against competitive teams?
 

PriceyGopher21 said:
It’s unusual to see such a competitive game going into halftime then an absolute blowout on both sides of the ball in the second half. Iowa clearly made halftime adjustments which we were not able to counter. Very disappointing to see such a good defense get absolutely torched on the ground.

What are everyone’s productive thoughts? Why do we continually struggle to play chess after halftime adjustments against competitive teams?
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Because pj is a horrific xs and os Coach and hires people with literally no experience at their spot to do this for him
 

Finishing tackles on defense.
Discipline, no penalties.
Better punting on special teams.
An O Line that knows and performs their blocking assignments exceptionally.
Winning the turnover battle.
 

Ewert86PC said:
Finishing tackles on defense.
Discipline, no penalties.
Better punting on special teams.
An O Line that knows and performs their blocking assignments exceptionally.
Winning the turnover battle.
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Great list. The punting really is atrocious. Can we stop with the rugby garbage and find someone with some hangtime and over 40yds?
 

The tackling was fucking awful tonight. Long fucking drive back to the range after this shitshow.
 



All true, but when you are getting obliterated on both lines, you are just simply screwed.

What are all the adjustments Iowa made at halftime. They simply lined up and ran the ball all over us by blowing us out up front.

We have a massive lack of talent on this team in comparison to others. Iowa had the better lines, the better linebackers and the better secondary. Their running back is way more explosive than anything we have, also

Where were we better......at wide receiver is about all I can come up with. Hell, our punting game was putrid compared to theirs, also.
 

Ewert86PC said:
Finishing tackles on defense.
Discipline, no penalties.
Better punting on special teams.
An O Line that knows and performs their blocking assignments exceptionally.
Winning the turnover battle.
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PJ has our punter do the end over and shit. He must think it’s easier to cover those or something but that’s not on our punter. That’s on PJ Every punt is kicked like a normal punter would only kick as a pooch.
 

kg21 said:
All true, but when you are getting obliterated on both lines, you are just simply screwed.

What are all the adjustments Iowa made at halftime. They simply lined up and ran the ball all over us by blowing us out up front.

We have a massive lack of talent on this team in comparison to others. Iowa had the better lines, the better linebackers and the better secondary. Their running back is way more explosive than anything we have, also

Where were we better......at wide receiver is about all I can come up with. Hell, our punting game was putrid compared to theirs, also.
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I don’t think that’s true. They actually did make adjustments. They took advantage of the fact that we were over pursuing on the backside and ran roll outs to the tight end and cut back runs just an obliterated us we
Lost all contain. Plus, we missed a bunch of tackles on the plays right up the middle it was really, really tough to watch.
 



Gopherchase said:
I don’t think that’s true. They actually did make adjustments. They took advantage of the fact that we were over pursuing on the backside and ran roll outs to the tight end and cut back runs just an obliterated us we
Lost all contain. Plus, we missed a bunch of tackles on the plays right up the middle it was really, really tough to watch.
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Astute analysis. Iowa switched to a bunch of counters and misdirection that created epic 1:1 mismatches and they exploited it for chunks of yards. They didn't even have to threaten pass.
 

In the second half it was like the Iowa secondary knew the routes of the receivers. In the three seconds Max had to throw, there was rarely a clearly open receiver. Tip of the cap to Iowa even though it sucks.
 

WorkingMyTailOff said:
In the second half it was like the Iowa secondary knew the routes of the receivers. In the three seconds Max had to throw, there was rarely a clearly open receiver. Tip of the cap to Iowa even though it sucks.
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They were tight windows in first half too, even long plays. They did seem to anticipate when we were throwing based off our motion and direction.
 

For the 2nd half after Iowa chose to receive, I thought it was absolutely moronic that Minnesota chose to kickoff into the wind.
 



Ope3 said:
For the 2nd half after Iowa chose to receive, I thought it was absolutely moronic that Minnesota chose to kickoff into the wind.
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You would rather have the Gophers have the wind in their face in the 4th quarter?
 

'Halftime adjustments' are always completely overblown by fans, especially in the NFL. There is very little time to make actual adjustments at half time, and adjustments are constantly being made throughout the game.

Iowa just lined up and kicked the shit out of the Gophers in the 2nd half. All they did is run the ball down our throat and we couldn't stop it.
 

"We have a massive lack of talent on this team in comparison to others. Iowa had the better lines, the better linebackers and the better secondary. Their running back is way more explosive than anything we have, also"

Why is possible to recruit better players to Madison, Iowa City, Lincoln, et al than to Minneapolis? No one seems to want to know the answer to that question. Do we ever inquire of recruits we lost to those schools why?
 

GopherWeatherGuy said:
You would rather have the Gophers have the wind in their face in the 4th quarter?
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100%, with the hope that they had added on to the lead as they had just done in the 2nd Q with the wind at their back.

By the time they did have the wind at their back with the ball it was game over already, down by 3 scores.
 

Ope3 said:
100%, with the hope that they had added on to the lead as they had just done in the 2nd Q with the wind at their back.

By the time they did have the wind at their back with the ball it was game over already, down by 3 scores.
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Them being down 3 scores by the 4th quarter had nothing to do with the wind. Every coach with a 14-7 halftime lead is going to take the wind at their back for the 4th quarter.
 

Ope3 said:
For the 2nd half after Iowa chose to receive, I thought it was absolutely moronic that Minnesota chose to kickoff into the wind.
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And they chose to play into the sun during the first quarter. Here's what it looked like right before he threw the interception.

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GopherWeatherGuy said:
Them being down 3 scores by the 4th quarter had nothing to do with the wind. Every coach with a 14-7 halftime lead is going to take the wind at their back for the 4th quarter.
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I disagree on both statements.
 

Full Speed Ahead said:
And they chose to play into the sun during the first quarter. Here's what it looked like right before he threw the interception.

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That wasn't the Gophers choice. Iowa won the toss, deferred this Minnesota chose to receive.

Iowa elected to kick with the wind at their back, just as Minnesota should have done in the 2nd Half.

The sun being in Brosmer's eyes was a bonus on that play. However it was in the Hawkeyes receivers vision the same Quarter. Don't really know what's the lesser of 2 evils there.
 

kg21 said:
All true, but when you are getting obliterated on both lines, you are just simply screwed.

What are all the adjustments Iowa made at halftime. They simply lined up and ran the ball all over us by blowing us out up front.

We have a massive lack of talent on this team in comparison to others. Iowa had the better lines, the better linebackers and the better secondary. Their running back is way more explosive than anything we have, also

Where were we better......at wide receiver is about all I can come up with. Hell, our punting game was putrid compared to theirs, also.
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Iowa, to my eye, adjusted on offense by running more misdirection, counter and cutback plays. This is a standard adjustment to a defense that over pursues based on first movement.

On defense they brought an extra pass rusher to shorten Brosmer’s time to go through progressions, etc., confident in the Gophers’ lack of a running game to counter.

In a second half implosion like this one, our failed adjustment is that we seemed not to be prepared for the standard adjustments our opponent was almost certain to make. 🤷🏼‍♂️
 
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FanSinceTheFifties said:
"We have a massive lack of talent on this team in comparison to others. Iowa had the better lines, the better linebackers and the better secondary. Their running back is way more explosive than anything we have, also"

Why is possible to recruit better players to Madison, Iowa City, Lincoln, et al than to Minneapolis? No one seems to want to know the answer to that question. Do we ever inquire of recruits we lost to those schools why?
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Recruiting is weak under Fleck, both because coordinators and other assistant coaches don't have reputations to match schools we are competing against, and because Fleck presents himself as inflexible and more interested in babbling dogma than coaching football.

A good recruit is going to want to play for a coach who concentrates on football.
 



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here’s coach Guidry when asked if halftime adjustments are a real thing or just something that people say. Something every defensive coordinator needs to hear. <br><br>I believe the question was asked by Matt Shodell <a href="https://t.co/ZZ4obm9xQU">pic.twitter.com/ZZ4obm9xQU</a></p>&mdash; Main Man (@BigHomieWarden) <a href="">September 23, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

FanSinceTheFifties said:
"We have a massive lack of talent on this team in comparison to others. Iowa had the better lines, the better linebackers and the better secondary. Their running back is way more explosive than anything we have, also"

Why is possible to recruit better players to Madison, Iowa City, Lincoln, et al than to Minneapolis? No one seems to want to know the answer to that question. Do we ever inquire of recruits we lost to those schools why?
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There is one major difference between the Universtiy of Minneota and the University of Wisconsin and University of Iowa when it comes to football. The administrations at Iowa and Wisconsin believe that the investment in football is integral to the success of the academic institution, whereas Minnesota, since 1961, has gone out of its way to make sure they don't support athletics.

Now, this doesn't mean we need to scuttle everything in favor of football/athletics like we're in the SEC, but we can both maintain a focus on Academia and Have a commitment to Athletics. This isn't a zero sum game. When you are on campus at all three institutions, you can see the pride and support in athletics at Iowa and Wisconsin. You don't see that at Minnesota anywhere near the same extent - although it is considerably better at the U now than when I was in school, the Scandanivian influence of not bringing attention to yourself is well ingrained in the institution.

It all starts there. It doesn't end with that support, but that is what will change the culture at Minnesota.
 

I don't think a program like Iowa brings in that much more talent. They just do a really good job of bringing in the right players to fit their system. And then those players develop really well in that system.

Just look at some of their TEs. Hockenson, Kittle, LaPorta and Fant were not highly recruited players. The know what they do well and keep doing it.
 

One of the better DC's we had when it came to making adjustments was Tracey Claeys. When we were struggling defensively in the first half of a game, I would tell myself that if we can just get this thing to halftime and still be in it, Claeys would have the fix. And he usually did. I have not had that type of confidence in our DCs since.
 

caliGopher said:
There is one major difference between the Universtiy of Minneota and the University of Wisconsin and University of Iowa when it comes to football. The administrations at Iowa and Wisconsin believe that the investment in football is integral to the success of the academic institution, whereas Minnesota, since 1961, has gone out of its way to make sure they don't support athletics.

Now, this doesn't mean we need to scuttle everything in favor of football/athletics like we're in the SEC, but we can both maintain a focus on Academia and Have a commitment to Athletics. This isn't a zero sum game. When you are on campus at all three institutions, you can see the pride and support in athletics at Iowa and Wisconsin. You don't see that at Minnesota anywhere near the same extent - although it is considerably better at the U now than when I was in school, the Scandanivian influence of not bringing attention to yourself is well ingrained in the institution.

It all starts there. It doesn't end with that support, but that is what will change the culture at Minnesota.
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Why did the UM admin change their attitude toward athletics in 1961?
 

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