Gophers part ways with wide receiver Donovahn Jones

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We have Logan Hutton also to help with some reps - he is our best blocking WR so he could be a key!
 

MNfootballfan said:
He wasn't even close to our best WR? Name someone better? Fruechte? Even if he wasn't our best WR, he was damn close to being the best. Based on what I saw, Jones was the best WR.
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Take your pick...Wolitarsky, Fruechte, Maye, Hutton, whomever. Jones could run fast and that was it. Couldn't block well, ran poor routes, had poor hands, didn't high point the ball, had trouble locating the ball while it was in the air, etc., etc., etc. He was another Devin Crawford-Tufts or Troy Williamson. He had the potential to one day be the best WR on the roster, but that potential was nowhere near realized. He was lacking skill and refinement in virtually all aspects of being a WR. He played and played a lot because he is a very good athlete and our WR corps is lacking in athleticism. Like I already stated, he is a great athlete who is not even a mediocre WR.
 


Will be interesting when the coaches will be able to put together a competent passing game. Since Leidner is terrible, at best, and we don't have any quarterbacks on the roster or currently committed who are good passers, we're looking at 2018 at the earliest
 

sonnygarcia said:
Will be interesting when the coaches will be able to put together a competent passing game. Since Leidner is terrible, at best, and we don't have any quarterbacks on the roster or currently committed who are good passers, we're looking at 2018 at the earliest
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One of the more ridiculous posts of the year.
 



Yikes...what ever D. Jones did to you im sure he didnt mean it.

dpodoll68 said:
Take your pick...Wolitarsky, Fruechte, Maye, Hutton, whomever. Jones could run fast and that was it. Couldn't block well, ran poor routes, had poor hands, didn't high point the ball, had trouble locating the ball while it was in the air, etc., etc., etc. He was another Devin Crawford-Tufts or Troy Williamson. He had the potential to one day be the best WR on the roster, but that potential was nowhere near realized. He was lacking skill and refinement in virtually all aspects of being a WR. He played and played a lot because he is a very good athlete and our WR corps is lacking in athleticism. Like I already stated, he is a great athlete who is not even a mediocre WR.
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dpodoll68 said:
Take your pick...Wolitarsky, Fruechte, Maye, Hutton, whomever. Jones could run fast and that was it. Couldn't block well, ran poor routes, had poor hands, didn't high point the ball, had trouble locating the ball while it was in the air, etc., etc., etc. He was another Devin Crawford-Tufts or Troy Williamson. He had the potential to one day be the best WR on the roster, but that potential was nowhere near realized. He was lacking skill and refinement in virtually all aspects of being a WR. He played and played a lot because he is a very good athlete and our WR corps is lacking in athleticism. Like I already stated, he is a great athlete who is not even a mediocre WR.
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It's posts like this that make me embarrassed for this board.

How small are you?

Did you say this ONE TIME while he was on the team?

No. You are a COWARD. Me meet in Temecula.
 




Dirk Diggler said:
It's posts like this that make me embarrassed for this board. How small are you? Did you say this ONE TIME while he was on the team? No. You are a COWARD. Me meet in Temecula.
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No side in this fight, but great work using Temecula!!! Lol
 

sonnygarcia said:
Will be interesting when the coaches will be able to put together a competent passing game. Since Leidner is terrible, at best, and we don't have any quarterbacks on the roster or currently committed who are good passers, we're looking at 2018 at the earliest
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Great post. Thanks for your input. /s
 

sonnygarcia said:
Will be interesting when the coaches will be able to put together a competent passing game. Since Leidner is terrible, at best, and we don't have any quarterbacks on the roster or currently committed who are good passers, we're looking at 2018 at the earliest
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Seems to me it has to fall on the WR's for the most part. We managed to have the best TE in the country.


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e.bigelow said:
No seriousness in my post. I wish Donovahn the best. Hope wherever he lands it works out for him. I just think he had potential but didn't come anywhere close to reaching it here. Lack of effort (possibly, observed) and system probably doomed him here.
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I'm not surprised. I remember in the Northwestern game a teammate scored a touchdown and Jones didn't celebrate, show any emotion or congratulate the teammate, even though he was 5 yards away. I thought that was really strange at the time. Had never seen that and was surprised no one ever wrote about it. Not sure Jones improved at all this year. He did not get open much and hopefully our new super frosh crop will be able to get open.
 


GopherHomer said:
You have to understand that sonnygarcia is VERY anti-Leidner. Every single one of his posts reflects that point of view. He's ridiculous.
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Also doesn't seem to understand that the coaches will always be recruiting dual threat QBs over traditional pocket passers. According to his logic we will probably never have a "competent passing game" when Kill is our coach. James Morgan was a 4 star pocket passer that we had at camp and on campus a couple of times and we passed on him and took 3 star dual threat Demry Croft instead. I wonder what he thought of that.
 

dpodoll68 said:
Take your pick...Wolitarsky, Fruechte, Maye, Hutton, whomever. Jones could run fast and that was it. Couldn't block well, ran poor routes, had poor hands, didn't high point the ball, had trouble locating the ball while it was in the air, etc., etc., etc. He was another Devin Crawford-Tufts or Troy Williamson. He had the potential to one day be the best WR on the roster, but that potential was nowhere near realized. He was lacking skill and refinement in virtually all aspects of being a WR. He played and played a lot because he is a very good athlete and our WR corps is lacking in athleticism. Like I already stated, he is a great athlete who is not even a mediocre WR.
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I guess I don't see why this is a ridiculous post. Except for Hutton and whomever, most of this is true. Fruechte and Maye had more catches and Wolitarsky would have if he wouldn't have been hurt. Whenever the ball was thrown Jones way, he looked like a QB playing WR and didn't progress at all from last year to this year. He should have shown more improvement knowing he was a WR coming into the season, and also knowing the Gophers didn't have many other options.
 

GopherWeatherGuy said:
I guess I don't see why this is a ridiculous post. Except for Hutton and whomever, most of this is true. Fruechte and Maye had more catches and Wolitarsky would have if he wouldn't have been hurt. Whenever the ball was thrown Jones way, he looked like a QB playing WR and didn't progress at all from last year to this year. He should have shown more improvement knowing he was a WR coming into the season, and also knowing the Gophers didn't have many other options.
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Fruechte: 15 catches for 278 yards and 1 TD
Jones: 11 catches for 253 yards and 2 TDs
Maye: 13 catches for 223 yards and 1 TD

I don't disagree that he is more of an athlete playing receiver and hasn't yet come close to his potential etc. but saying things like he wasn't close to being our best receivers and even indicating that Logan Hutton was better is quite preposterous when looking at the stat line above. You could come up with something to trash nearly all of our receivers. Maye is for long and intermediate passes and not big enough, Fruechte is terrible at getting separation, Wolitarsky is a slow white guy, all three of them have mediocre hands at best etc. All of our receivers have some big flaws. Pretty ridiculous that he singled out Jones like that, don't you think?
 

die hard gopher said:
Fruechte: 15 catches for 278 yards and 1 TD
Jones: 11 catches for 253 yards and 2 TDs
Maye: 13 catches for 223 yards and 1 TD

I don't disagree that he is more of an athlete playing receiver and hasn't yet come close to his potential etc. but saying things like he wasn't close to being our best receivers and even indicating that Logan Hutton was better is quite preposterous when looking at the stat line above. You could come up with something to trash nearly all of our receivers. Maye is for long and intermediate passes and not big enough, Fruechte is terrible at getting separation, Wolitarsky is a slow white guy, all three of them have mediocre hands at best etc. Jones definitely was our best deep threat that we had and helped us stretch the field quite a bit.
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Jones only helped against the bad teams where he could get by purely on his athleticism. He did nothing, literally didn't have a catch, against the teams that had similar or better athletes than he. I also agree with the second half of your reply. This is why Gentry and Holland will start from game 1 on next year.
 

I too noticed some bad body language from D Jones this year. His TD in the first game of the season he took the ball that could have been picked and ran into the end zone had me excited for what I thought would be a break out season, but it didn't come to fruition. I wish him the best and hope that we have a better passing game next year. Maybe Sonny Garcia can work with Leidner in the offseason.
 

GopherWeatherGuy said:
Jones only helped against the bad teams where he could get by purely on his athleticism. He did nothing, literally didn't have a catch, against the teams that had similar or better athletes than he. I also agree with the second half of your reply. This is why Gentry and Holland will start from game 1 on next year.
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He arguably broke the game open against Iowa with his touchdown catch. Let's not get carried away here.
 

so...hold on here....

So, he is gone for good or just had a falling out made the coach upset and possibly they patch things up in Spring?.
 

dpodoll68 said:
Take your pick...Wolitarsky, Fruechte, Maye, Hutton, whomever. Jones could run fast and that was it. Couldn't block well, ran poor routes, had poor hands, didn't high point the ball, had trouble locating the ball while it was in the air, etc., etc., etc. He was another Devin Crawford-Tufts or Troy Williamson. He had the potential to one day be the best WR on the roster, but that potential was nowhere near realized. He was lacking skill and refinement in virtually all aspects of being a WR. He played and played a lot because he is a very good athlete and our WR corps is lacking in athleticism. Like I already stated, he is a great athlete who is not even a mediocre WR.
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I agree with this entirely.

I was very anxious to see the outcome of Spring ball; was pretty much expecting that DJ was NOT going to come out of those 15 practices as still being a starter.
 

wait!what? said:
So, he is gone for good or just had a falling out made the coach upset and possibly they patch things up in Spring?.
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He's gone according to HS coach. Officially will be released on January 3rd


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MaxyJR1 said:
Why? We have Wolitarski, Maye, & Fruechte and only need 1-2 on field at a time.


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Edwards is fast. Get him the ball in the open field and watch him smoke the Missouri dbacks to the end zone. I'd like to see what kind of hands Berkely has and if he could be a duel threat in the offensive scheme. Why not let him line up and run some routes. It's not like he doesn't have a big brother who could help him with running some of those routes.
 

MNGoldenGophers1 said:
I seem to recall that Jones was in the dog house and had to sit out the first quarter against OSU but it didn't really matter because he was sick that day. I'm guessing there has been friction for some time between Jones and the coaches. It wouldn't surprise me if Jones was unwilling to conform with the program direction and got sent packing. With over a 100 players, this will happen from time to time (a.k.a. AJ's mom's BFF syndrome). I only get concerned when several players show dissent.

This is like an accident scene and the coaches will probably say that there is nothing to see here, move along.
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This. I suppose it could hurt for the Bowl game, but having Wolitarsky back is still a net upgrade over what we had the last several weeks. Jones had 11 catches on the year. 11. We didn't lose a huge piece of our offense here.
 

die hard gopher said:
Fruechte: 15 catches for 278 yards and 1 TD
Jones: 11 catches for 253 yards and 2 TDs
Maye: 13 catches for 223 yards and 1 TD

I don't disagree that he is more of an athlete playing receiver and hasn't yet come close to his potential etc. but saying things like he wasn't close to being our best receivers and even indicating that Logan Hutton was better is quite preposterous when looking at the stat line above. You could come up with something to trash nearly all of our receivers. Maye is for long and intermediate passes and not big enough, Fruechte is terrible at getting separation, Wolitarsky is a slow white guy, all three of them have mediocre hands at best etc. All of our receivers have some big flaws. Pretty ridiculous that he singled out Jones like that, don't you think?
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Those numbers are pretty terrible. We have a sub-par receiving corps outside of Williams. Freuchte actually played better this year than I expected. He's a warrior, a blocker, and there's a place for guys like that. I just hope we never see the jet sweep. Maye is overmatched physically but is starting to make some plays.

Do doll is right. It pains me to say it but his post was spot on. Jones made some plays but he missed on a lot of other plays and he just doesn't look comfortable. Kill has made it clear the red shirts are coming and he was finished as a starter. Don't blame us for expressing what Kill is thinking.

As far as being a coward, I've been ripping on jones to step up his game since before the season. It didn't happen.

Besides, jones left the team. We don't have to hold a farewell party. What is the exclusionary period for ripping on former players that quit the team. And make no mistake, he quit on the team before today. A week, a year, five years?
 

tinyarch said:
Edwards is fast. Get him the ball in the open field and watch him smoke the Missouri dbacks to the end zone. I'd like to see what kind of hands Berkely has and if he could be a duel threat in the offensive scheme. Why not let him line up and run some routes. It's not like he doesn't have a big brother who could help him with running some of those routes.
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From what I've seen from watching a full length game of Chelsea tHS thats available on youtube, the spring and fall scrimmages and in games this year he has dropped quite a few easy passes on simple screens. Do not believe he has very good hands.
 


Pompous Elitist said:
Those numbers are pretty terrible. We have a sub-par receiving corps outside of Williams. Freuchte actually played better this year than I expected. He's a warrior, a blocker, and there's a place for guys like that. I just hope we never see the jet sweep. Maye is overmatched physically but is starting to make some plays.

Do doll is right. It pains me to say it but his post was spot on. Jones made some plays but he missed on a lot of other plays and he just doesn't look comfortable. Kill has made it clear the red shirts are coming and he was finished as a starter. Don't blame us for expressing what Kill is thinking.

As far as being a coward, I've been ripping on jones to step up his game since before the season. It didn't happen.

Besides, jones left the team. We don't have to hold a farewell party. What is the exclusionary period for ripping on former players that quit the team. And make no mistake, he quit on the team before today. A week, a year, five years?
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Point being if you're going to rip him, then rip or at least acknowledge that the other guys have been equally if not more mediocre than Jones.
 

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