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GopherinPhilly said:
Doogie...do you have a second source on Golden being interested? I got the exact opposite here in Philly from what I deemed a reliable source...but that was about a week after Brew was fired. Has something changed with Golden? I was told to expect a press release last week from Golden regarding not being interested in moving on...and it didn't happen.

Also, is the U really willing to pay a reported $2 million penalty to get Golden out of his contract that he signed 9 months ago?
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Of the three, was told that he is the least-expected to come here. Good point on the buyout... I was told any buyout will not prevent them from hiring their guy... is it though really as high as $2 mil.?
 

GopherOhana said:
and the meddling of super boosters. Lou Holtz advised Tubby to get out of Kentucky while he was on top. Maybe Tubby has passed along that same advice to UM?
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If Tubby was that pursuasive, I think Harrison Barnes and Cory Joseph would have been beating down the door to the Barn.
 



Doogie, so you're speculating that Fedora's hat is in the ring?

I love Houston Nutt, but I don't know how good a coach he is. He's probably second nationally in sideline antics behind Pelini, although it's a distant second.

I just love to listen to Nutt talk. I don't know if it's because his Southern accent is thicker than sorghum syrup or if he just mangles the language, but he's a charismatic guy at a level and he at least knows what he's doing. One thing for certain, if he was our coach, our defense would hit people.

Golden is my 1/1A, so obviously I'm hopeful.
 


Doogie said:
Of the three, was told that he is the least-expected to come here. Good point on the buyout... I was told any buyout will not prevent them from hiring their guy... is it though really as high as $2 mil.?
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I'm ok with any one of those three guys. Calhoun would be my first choice, while Hoke my third. I really want to see what Calhoun can do without the restrictions he has at the Air Force and Minnesota is a great place to do that!
 

howeda7 said:
Why not exactly?
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I could go into numerous other examples why Houston Nutt is a bad coach but one is that he wanted Ryan Mallett to play TE at Arkansas. The same Ryan Mallett that was a high school all-american at QB and could throw the ball 70 yards on a rope. This is directly from Mallett's high school coach that when he found out that Nutt had Mallett playing TE at the Arkansas camp he told Mallett to leave right at that instant and head back to Texarkana. That is the reason Mallett never went to Arkansas initially and ended up at Michigan. Arkansas was his team as a kid and he wanted to go there but Nutt wanted a prototypical NFL QB to play TE. He tends to destroy QB's the longer they are around him(Jevan Snead, Mitch Mustain, etc.). He is also a slime ball in his personal life and ask Gus Malzahn what he thinks of him. Nutt hired Malzahn to get the Springdale kids to try and save his job and then once he hires Malzahn gives him no opportunity to call the plays and do what he was hired to do. To make it worse he then goes along and supports the mocking of Malzahn by the rest of the staff who called him "high school" in reference to him just being a high school coach. I think Malzahn has showed now and several different spots that he knew what he was doing.
 

TCF=UnitedWeStand said:
Samples of these three via You Tube:

Golden:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0z6EH7MoUY

Calhoun:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE3-eUm1EQ0&feature=related (with Sumlin)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vERv1AZtqIY&feature=related (the last minute is pretty funny)

Hoke:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdRbBw_EpnY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wbpx8klFonI&feature=channel (this one is the better of the two)

I like all three of them.
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Man that 2 minutes in the box with Calhoun kind of scares me. He shows how much he loves the Air Force and the pride he has in being one of its leaders.

Maturi will have to do some major seducing and pay probably slightly more than 2 mill to get him to leave his beloved Air Force.
 

Wheaton said:
Man that 2 minutes in the box with Calhoun kind of scares me. He shows how much he loves the Air Force and the pride he has in being one of its leaders.

Maturi will have to do some major seducing and pay probably slightly more than 2 mill to get him to leave his beloved Air Force.
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I think it will depend upon his goals professionally. He can leave AFA for the U of M and still retain his love and gratitude for it. I think everyone associated with AFA would understand, and view a Big Ten job as a step up professionally over AFA.

That said, it's possible he could be one of those "lifer" guys who is perfectly content being at his alma mater.

We'll find out, I guess.
 



GopherGod said:
I could go into numerous other examples why Houston Nutt is a bad .... He tends to destroy QB's the longer they are around him(Jevan Snead, Mitch Mustain, etc.).
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i was in Fayetteville during the Mustain exit. Real eye opener regarding super boosters and their belief that college football is a participation sport and not a spectator sport.

One thing Nutt did do that i liked, there was a big charity event at the football stadium. Some bigwig from Tennessee was there (forgot who), and upon his introduction somehow got Rocky Top to play over the speaker system.

Nutt ran on to the stage, stepped up to the the mike, stopped the music, and said "not in this house!"

kinda brewster-esque actually
 

TCF=UnitedWeStand said:
I think it will depend upon his goals professionally. He can leave AFA for the U of M and still retain his love and gratitude for it. I think everyone associated with AFA would understand, and view a Big Ten job as a step up professionally over AFA.

That said, it's possible he could be one of those "lifer" guys who is perfectly content being at his alma mater.

We'll find out, I guess.
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Thats a good point.

He has worked in football other places, mostly in the NFL. Now either he was working at these places to ultimately get that Air Force coaching job and if so mission accomplished he wont go anywhere.

Or he loves football and wants to coach young men for a living. With that in mind, he may want to try and achieve the fullest of his possible potential. By taking the Minnesota job he could be testing that.
 

Duluthguy said:
Wait. There's now a source saying "deep south," but the source doesn't know what that means?!? Sounds to me like the source must have a source, which makes the whole thing very questionable in terms of reliability.

Also, are we to believe Maturi is flying around talking to these people while they (except Calhoun) have games yet to play?

Put me down as skeptical on all counts. Fact or fiction - you be the judge.
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Since the Southern edge of Minnie stretches about a third of the way to the Gulf Coast, couldn't Ferentz be a candidate. That is fairly deep south. I'm just saying. Much farther south than the TC is from Dulute.
 

Wheaton said:
Man that 2 minutes in the box with Calhoun kind of scares me. He shows how much he loves the Air Force and the pride he has in being one of its leaders.

Maturi will have to do some major seducing and pay probably slightly more than 2 mill to get him to leave his beloved Air Force.
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I believe Calhoun makes slightly less than $850k per. I would love to have him be the hire, but giving him over $2 million a year to do so seems a bit of a strech.
 



Seniorsmoke said:
I believe Calhoun makes slightly less than $850k per. I would love to have him be the hire, but giving him over $2 million a year to do so seems a bit of a strech.
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I think the reported 2.5 or more mill would be for a home run type hire. I would think one of the three from Doogie's report would be more in the 1.5-2 mill. range. Incentives will also be in play.
 

So much for a Tubby Smith home run type hire...if we hire Calhoun or Hoke we are settling...i'd even say Golden could be settling a bit these are not home run hires hell Hoke is 38-46 overall!! and Calhoun isn't over the top either. They both come off very Glen Mason to me. Only at least Glen Mason was mediocre against better teams!! Like that same level of achievement though lots of 4-5 loss seasons. One other trend that disturbs me is it seems none of the "most probable" names being mentioned have won in big six conference play!! They've all recruited and done just descent in weaker lower conferences. idk a lot of these guys just have me unexcited.
 

50PoundHead said:
Doogie, so you're speculating that Fedora's hat is in the ring?

I love Houston Nutt, but I don't know how good a coach he is. He's probably second nationally in sideline antics behind Pelini, although it's a distant second.

I just love to listen to Nutt talk. I don't know if it's because his Southern accent is thicker than sorghum syrup or if he just mangles the language, but he's a charismatic guy at a level and he at least knows what he's doing. One thing for certain, if he was our coach, our defense would hit people.

Golden is my 1/1A, so obviously I'm hopeful.
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I merely threw his name out... no legs to it... probably shouldn't have... don't focus on Fedora... focus on Hoke, Calhoun, and Golden.
 

Doogie, you missed the pun. Fedora? Hat?

Or maybe you didn't miss it and simply refuse to sink to my level. LOL.
 

howeda7 said:
Why not exactly?
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He's the reason the SEC had to put limits on oversigning players each year. He'd sign 37 of them and wait for some of them to not qualify before gray-shirting the rest. Just shady. Then there is the whole period referenced by GG. Nutt put the needs of 3 highly touted recruits above everyone else on the team to get them there, then played Lucy and pulled the ball away from Gus figuring that once he had Mustain there he'd be fine.

Frankly he just comes off as shady and he doesn't seem to be that great of a coach to boot.
 

Brady Hoke really want's this job bad

Despite all of the public denials, my fraternity brother that works at SDSU in IT for the AD claims that Brady Hoke really want's the Gopher job bad. Like almost borderline "begging" about it. His description was that, "Hoke was a little over the top in his "selling himself very hard" for the job during the interview. How the heck would anyone know that????? I'm not an insider but found that to be pretty funny anecdote. If he is really gunning to get out of SDSU, sounds a little desperate, he is going to have a tough time securing that "raise" from his own AD if he is pushing that hard to get out of dodge.
Baseball, basketball and wrestling coaches talk to much at the U, about this process, people kind of need to stop talking.
Like I said I am not an insider but the "guys" I talk with have a few connections. One is absolutley convinced it is Calhoun's job "if he want's it" and the job is his. This is a single source that claims to know Calhoun is "the guy". The other two guy's claim Golden has increased his odds or impressed the two travlers a lot and increased there interest. The Fedora stuff seem's kind of funny and a little "left field" out there not real legit, 3 guy's said "who" but I think one guy said he has a little steam.
I really don't know how anyone can be that "firm" in there belief as I think there are really only 3-4people in the entire AD that know for sure who the next coach is. Really only the guy's flying on the plane know for sure and they have been pretty good about keeping it under wraps. Other than the people catching onto a few names.

Educated guess but your contenders are Calhoun and Golden folks.

Miller or Doogie will have it before any other media type, just a hunch on that.
 

Gophers507 said:
So much for a Tubby Smith home run type hire...if we hire Calhoun or Hoke we are settling...i'd even say Golden could be settling a bit these are not home run hires hell Hoke is 38-46 overall!! and Calhoun isn't over the top either. They both come off very Glen Mason to me. Only at least Glen Mason was mediocre against better teams!! Like that same level of achievement though lots of 4-5 loss seasons. One other trend that disturbs me is it seems none of the "most probable" names being mentioned have won in big six conference play!! They've all recruited and done just descent in weaker lower conferences. idk a lot of these guys just have me unexcited.
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I think you understand that the Big 3 were not coming here correct? So I think I could argue that the only two realistic home run candidates available is Mike Leach and Mike Belloti. Well Belloti has also taken his name out of the race.

That means Leach is the only available HR candidate. I want him too, but he is not coming here. And there must be more to it if guys who know football are staying away from him.

Who else do you consider HR candidates? Fulmer? He said no. Mangino? Don Tredwell? the list goes on.
 

Deep South????

Mack Brown as head coach, Mike Leach as OC, and Gary Patterson as DC. How would that be as a staff. If we are going to dream, it might as well be a wet one.
 


Brady Hoke:


Year Team Overall Conference Standing
Ball State (Mid-American Conference) (2003–2008)
2003 Ball State 4–8 3–5 T-4th◊
2004 Ball State 2–9 2–6 6th◊
2005 Ball State 4–7 4–4 5th◊
2006 Ball State 5–7 5–3 T-3rd◊
2007 Ball State 7–6 5–2 2nd◊
2008 Ball State 12–1 8–0 1st◊
Ball State: 34–38 27–20 ◊ MAC West Division

San Diego State (Mountain West Conference) (2009–present)
2009 SDSU 4–8 2–6 7th
2010 SDSU 7–2 4–1 3rd
San Diego State: 11–10 6–7


I like this. Obviously we don't know what his top-end would be in the Big Ten. Mason, for example, improved for several years then plateaued, without ever getting over the hump.
 

Wheaton said:
Man that 2 minutes in the box with Calhoun kind of scares me. He shows how much he loves the Air Force and the pride he has in being one of its leaders.
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I was struck by that too. Maybe he'll be like Fisher DeBerry was, a lifer at the Air Force Academy despite being universally acknowledged as one of the finest football coaches in the game and a guy who could literally have had his pick of any of dozens of high profile job openings over his 23 years as a head coach.

Or maybe he'll be a Ken Hatfield, who also loved the AFA, but who left after 4 seasons to coach at Arkansas because that was his alma mater.

Air Force football, man. They've had a mighty good run of some very, very good football coaches.
 

Deep South

Deep south could mean LSU! Some people think Les Miles is sick of LSU fans making fun of his game day decisions and might be open to new opportunities.
 

The only "deep south" guy that makes any sense is Dan Mullen.

LSU isn't getting rid of Miles, the keys aren't the deep south (and i've heard that it will 100% not be Leach), Fedora wouldn't make a ton of sense at this point.

But good info Doogie, I heard a couple weeks ago that people seemed to think it went Calhoun, Golden and Hoke (in that order with Sumlin in the mix, but Sumlin has seemed more focused on Colorado). I really hope Mike Bellotti gets a seriously strong hire, but i'd be fine with any of these guys and i'd probably prefer Golden.

Doogie, out of curiousity have you heard any rumors about Hoke being able to nab Chuck Martin as his DC? I heard from someone who has seemed relatively plugged in that the current SDSU DC would probably become the next HC and that Hoke would bring most of his staff to MN and add Chuck Martin (DBs coach at Notre Dame and former HC at Grand Valley State).
 

Deep South

Deep south could mean Atlanta, as in where the search firm is located.

If I had to handicap the three candidates being discussed, I would have to put my money on Calhoun. Not that he would be my first, second or third choice, but because he talks a lot about the importance of academics - just like Bruininks.
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
The only "deep south" guy that makes any sense is Dan Mullen.

LSU isn't getting rid of Miles, the keys aren't the deep south (and i've heard that it will 100% not be Leach), Fedora wouldn't make a ton of sense at this point.

But good info Doogie, I heard a couple weeks ago that people seemed to think it went Calhoun, Golden and Hoke (in that order with Sumlin in the mix, but Sumlin has seemed more focused on Colorado). I really hope Mike Bellotti gets a seriously strong hire, but i'd be fine with any of these guys and i'd probably prefer Golden.

Doogie, out of curiousity have you heard any rumors about Hoke being able to nab Chuck Martin as his DC? I heard from someone who has seemed relatively plugged in that the current SDSU DC would probably become the next HC and that Hoke would bring most of his staff to MN and add Chuck Martin (DBs coach at Notre Dame and former HC at Grand Valley State).
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Wouldn't it be something if we hired Chuck Martin as HC instead. His track record is amazing, but yet he wanted to be a DB coach at Notre Dame.:confused:
 


Gopher Fan said:
Wouldn't it be something if we hired Chuck Martin as HC instead. His track record is amazing, but yet he wanted to be a DB coach at Notre Dame.:confused:
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Yeah, I think Chuck Martin is the real deal and I wouldn't be mad at all if he was the hire for HC, that is why I was wondering if Doogie heard anything about that.

Yeah, it is a different route to get to HC at the higher level but it seems like Martin thought it would be quicker going that route (possible DC soon) and then HC than to try to work his way up from HC at GVS.

But yeah, I think he would be an absolute asset if we could add him as our DC.
 

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