Future Gopher Coach Discussion

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Married@SiebertField said:
Thank you, Coach, for all of your efforts and persevering through a loss we cannot imagine. And for sweeping Wisconsin one last time at Mariucci…
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Well said. There is enough bashing on this thread. People are cold. I hope we are all as good at our regular jobs as we are at bashing coaches and teams.
 

Go4Puck said:
It can happen. Matt Campbell left Iowa State for Penn State. Lane Kiffin left Ole Miss for LSU. Lincoln Riley left Oklahoma for USC. Brian Kelly left Notre Dame for LSU.
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With the exception of Campbell each of those guys appear loyal only to the dollar. I think Fersch is made of stronger stuff. But, it is worth a shot!
 

Livin in the attic said:
Well said. There is enough bashing on this thread. People are cold. I hope we are all as good at our regular jobs as we are at bashing coaches and teams.
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The fans are the reason these people have a job and earn so much money. If you aren’t delivering we have every right to criticize, and it is expected at a high stakes job where you make more money. Bob is a great person and did good things here but is not immune from criticism with how things ended.
 


Raindog4 said:
With the exception of Campbell each of those guys appear loyal only to the dollar. I think Fersch is made of stronger stuff. But, it is worth a shot!
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Again, none of those guys left their alma mater. Just went from 1 D I program to another.
Every AD's wet dream is to have a great, successful head coach that is an alum or grew up in the area. It's nearly impossible to pry them away because it's their dream job and everyone makes enough money today that it generally not the issue.
 



Go4Puck said:
Is your point it’s unlikely or they shouldn’t even try? It would be AD malpractice for Coyle not to check into the possibility, and by check into I mean dangle a very lucrative carrot in front of him. He may pass but you have to take a shot at getting one of the best proven coaches.
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Oh, I agree 100% I want the Gophs to swing for the fences. I want them to try big time. I was simply conceding the point that St Cloud's success when Motzko departed is not the same as WMUs or Denver's success now. Still think we should give it a shot for sure.
 


Vanek26 said:
How long are you going to beat that dead horse? Are you still mad Skarta hit the post in 89 or Stauber couldn't make a save?
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Those we were in control of.

2023 OT we were the effing clowns in Shipstadt and Johnson's Ice Capades.
 



GopherPete said:
If you don't think Motzko can be considered successful at SCSU you're nuts
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Of course he was successful. I'll admit that I'm not an authority on hockey, at all. But I keep thinking about the NCAA championship game from a few years ago when they went into that defensive shell and lost the game. I kept saying, "What the F is this strategy about?!" I know, it's completely unfair to judge on one game, and I know, he brought the team the national championship game, and I don;t know that much about hockey strategy, but that was a real brain fart IMHO. I'm sure that he's a nice guy and a great person, but this move seems appropriate.
 

Don’t know if anyone has talked about this yet: since they called it a mutual parting of ways, do we have to pay Bob’s buyout? I think it’s something like $1M, it’d be nice to keep that money to use for new coach and other resources.
 


cheeseburgerphil26 said:
Don’t know if anyone has talked about this yet: since they called it a mutual parting of ways, do we have to pay Bob’s buyout? I think it’s something like $1M, it’d be nice to keep that money to use for new coach and other resources.
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I'm betting he gets a significant amount if not all of his money.
 




Fersch at least being mentioned by Schloss is not a bad sign.
 

bonin21 said:
Fersch at least being mentioned by Schloss is not a bad sign.
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being mentioned by Schloss in the sense that it seems silly Gopher fans are mentioning him is more what he's going for. I don't see any way they're going to pay a 2mil buyout.
 

upnorthkid said:
being mentioned by Schloss in the sense that it seems silly Gopher fans are mentioning him is more what he's going for. I don't see any way they're going to pay a 2mil buyout.
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Buyouts can be negotiated rather than an absolute, unchangeable, and binding cost. It wouldn’t be 0 but it wouldn’t necessarily be $1.9M either.
 

upnorthkid said:
being mentioned by Schloss in the sense that it seems silly Gopher fans are mentioning him is more what he's going for. I don't see any way they're going to pay a 2mil buyout.
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If PSU wants him can Pegula just pay the 2MM?
 


Go4Puck said:
Buyouts can be negotiated rather than an absolute, unchangeable, and binding cost. It wouldn’t be 0 but it wouldn’t necessarily be $1.9M either.
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Why would Western take less?
 

TNGophfan said:
Why would Western take less?
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$1M+ payday for the athletic department and the risk of having a disgruntled coach because he was denied an opportunity he really wanted. Greatly depends on how bad Fresch would want the job if he did want it at all. More to consider than just $.
 

Fersch loves western and western loves Fersch. The exact same people saying he’s a likely target are the same ones saying carle is. He’s got a brand new rink and whole bunch of money while being king in a smaller pond at a place he loves (many similar reasons as to why carle is never leaving)

The only chance would be like something Bonin mentions and that would be a donor (or group) makes a large donation to the athletic dept that would cover the buyout cost.
 

Everyone seems to know exactly what Fresch is or isn’t or wants or doesn’t want without really knowing. My point is just because it says $1.9M in his contract doesn’t mean that’s an absolute number. Yes, a large $ amount would need to be paid and it wouldn’t be cheap. He may not even want the job but if he does then a very serious effort needs to be made to figure out a way to make it happen.
 

WMU fan here so i'm obviously biased, but do you think a school that has a single donor building $700 plus arena is going to let our sucessful coach go for 300k a year? That's if pat would even want to go, which I doubt.

We are in a better conference, he can coach for the team he played for / went to, we have just as high as a ceiling as you (based on our NC last season) and we will soon have better (or at least similar) facilities.

I agree you guys should try and I'll eat my words if I'm wrong, but if he leaves this school it's not going to be for money. I think he's an NHL or bust guy.
 

bronc33 said:
WMU fan here so i'm obviously biased, but do you think a school that has a single donor building $700 plus arena is going to let our sucessful coach go for 300k a year? That's if pat would even want to go, which I doubt.

We are in a better conference, he can coach for the team he played for / went to, we have just as high as a ceiling as you (based on our NC last season) and we will soon have better (or at least similar) facilities.

I agree you guys should try and I'll eat my words if I'm wrong, but if he leaves this school it's not going to be for money. I think he's an NHL or bust guy.
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Do I think Fershweiler is going to leave? Almost certainly no.

Is the Western job even comparable to the Minnesota job? Also no.
 

bronc33 said:
WMU fan here so i'm obviously biased, but do you think a school that has a single donor building $700 plus arena is going to let our sucessful coach go for 300k a year? That's if pat would even want to go, which I doubt.

We are in a better conference, he can coach for the team he played for / went to, we have just as high as a ceiling as you (based on our NC last season) and we will soon have better (or at least similar) facilities.

I agree you guys should try and I'll eat my words if I'm wrong, but if he leaves this school it's not going to be for money. I think he's an NHL or bust guy.
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Welcome and I agree, we're not getting him.

But the bolded statement is laughable. Does Yale, Providence, Umass, Union, and Quinnipiac have a ceiling as high as Minnesota? The answer is clearly no and they've all won titles since we have.
 

bronc33 said:
WMU fan here so i'm obviously biased, but do you think a school that has a single donor building $700 plus arena is going to let our sucessful coach go for 300k a year? That's if pat would even want to go, which I doubt.

We are in a better conference, he can coach for the team he played for / went to, we have just as high as a ceiling as you (based on our NC last season) and we will soon have better (or at least similar) facilities.

I agree you guys should try and I'll eat my words if I'm wrong, but if he leaves this school it's not going to be for money. I think he's an NHL or bust guy.
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Western has a nice program right now…as did Union, Yale, Bowling Green, Northern Michigan, Lake Superior State, and many others all did at some point. You’re not in the same league program wise as MN, that takes decades, not just a few good years.
 

beatles said:
Welcome and I agree, we're not getting him.

But the bolded statement is laughable. Does Yale, Providence, Umass, Union, and Quinnipiac have a ceiling as high as Minnesota? The answer is clearly no and they've all won titles since we have.
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if you're viewing the ceiling as winning a title at some point, about 30-40 programs have the same ceiling

Western under Fersch: 4 NCAA tourneys, 5-3 record in the NCAA tourney, 1 title
Western prior to Fersch: 6 NCAA tourneys, had never won an NCAA tourney game

they have dumped in a bunch of resources which may well raise the ceiling, as does being in the NCHC, but yeah calling the ceiling the same is silly. Same as WMU having the same ceiling as UND and DU even if some years they will be better than them. Need way more track record than that before you change the barometer for long term program health.
 

Minneapolis is a trainwreck but living on Minnetonka or PL is probably a lot more appealing than living on whatever lake in Kalamazoo
 

I'm simply saying this isn't football or basketball where a B1G team can swoop in and take someone who doesn't have a chance at the highest level of success in their curent league. We can win a national championship and have, and we compete in one of the top 3 leagues that has had the most success of them all since the split.

I'm not saying our past is anything great and that we should be considered a "blue blood", but there is nothing this program is missing (other than some far away history) that will hold back a head coach from having success and which requires that head coach to go elsewhere.
 

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