Fresno State Men's Basketball players allegedly placed bets on games they played in, sources say

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Action News has learned two of the three Fresno State men's basketball student-athletes accused of sports gambling allegedly placed bets on games they actively played in.

According to ESPN sources, Fresno State has removed junior forward Mykell Robinson from the team and suspended guards Jalen Weaver and Zaon Collins for their potential ties to sports gambling.

Sources tell Action News that Robinson and Weaver allegedly placed bets that the Bulldog men's basketball team would underperform on points and rebounds.

Sources add Collins allegedly placed bets on professional sports and that Weaver will not be returning to the program.

The alleged betting opens the potential that they may have been tainting the results of a game for their financial benefit.

NCAA rules prohibit student-athletes, coaches and athletics staff members, regardless of their sport or division of competition, from betting on games or providing information to anyone involved in or associated with any type of sports betting activities involving intercollegiate, professional or amateur games or competition. That includes pools, parlays and prop bets, in-game betting and single-game wagers.

Action News sources also say head coach Vance Walberg was the one who discovered the gambling taking place and notified Fresno State's administration.

That notification from Walberg launched an internal investigation at the university and soon after the NCAA got involved.

Fresno State publicly announced Weaver and Collins were "being withheld from competition as the University reviews an eligibility matter" 30 minutes before tipoff in Colorado Springs.

"The University and Athletics Department will have no further comments regarding the matter at this time," Fresno State Athletics said.

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Fresno State Men's Basketball players allegedly placed bets on games they played in, sources say

Action News has learned two of the three Fresno State student-athletes allegedly placed bets on games they actively played in.
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I don't think I've ever been radicalized on a political issue as quickly as this. I was all for sports gambling, personal responsibility and the like for forever. Now we've (mostly) got it and I couldn't be more in favor of outlawing it. The effect it has on (mostly young) men is indescribable. As a younger guy myself I can't recall a societal scourge seemingly overnight like this in my lifetime. I know it's probably too late to put the rabbit back in the hat, but why not at the very least require it to be in-person? These apps are horrific.
 


studentgopher94 said:
I don't think I've ever been radicalized on a political issue as quickly as this. I was all for sports gambling, personal responsibility and the like for forever. Now we've (mostly) got it and I couldn't be more in favor of outlawing it. The effect it has on (mostly young) men is indescribable. As a younger guy myself I can't recall a societal scourge seemingly overnight like this in my lifetime. I know it's probably too late to put the rabbit back in the hat, but why not at the very least require it to be in-person? These apps are horrific.
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I've always been of the opinion that only an idiot would bet money on something they have zero control over. Unless you can somehow show me how I can control whether Dawson Garcia makes or misses a 3-point shot to win or lose a game, I maintain you have zero control of one or the other happening. Although it's completely against the rules, at least one of these guys was putting his money on something he could control.

If one has enough money that they're willing to lose on something they cannot in any way legally control, that means they have plenty of money that they don't need and can afford to throw away. If you have enough money to do that, why not do something useful with it and help others who truly could use and deserve a helping hand.
 

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Leaving out the addiction part...the truth is the problem is people are arrogant and think they can beat randomized luck and that there is some sort of formula to beating basic probability. In the long run that never works. That is why casinos are the size of city blocks and bookies never go bankrupt.
 

studentgopher94 said:
I don't think I've ever been radicalized on a political issue as quickly as this. I was all for sports gambling, personal responsibility and the like for forever. Now we've (mostly) got it and I couldn't be more in favor of outlawing it. The effect it has on (mostly young) men is indescribable. As a younger guy myself I can't recall a societal scourge seemingly overnight like this in my lifetime. I know it's probably too late to put the rabbit back in the hat, but why not at the very least require it to be in-person? These apps are horrific.
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I work with a few grown ass professionals who spend ludicrous amounts of money betting online and they're burying themselves. It's a fucking problem, there's a serious lack of self control and these companies are making a killing while these guys are spending themselves into oblivion and taking their families down with them. I understand the whole idea of freedom of choice but this is worse than drug addiction, and like social media, it's everywhere and the addiction is available to these guys 24/7. You can't hide from it unless you destroy your phone.
 

mngg11 said:
I work with a few grown ass professionals who spend ludicrous amounts of money betting online and they're burying themselves. It's a fucking problem, there's a serious lack of self control and these companies are making a killing while these guys are spending themselves into oblivion and taking their families down with them. I understand the whole idea of freedom of choice but this is worse than drug addiction, and like social media, it's everywhere and the addiction is available to these guys 24/7. You can't hide from it unless you destroy your phone.
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The troubling part to me is the advocacy for gambling expansion. If you listen to the advocates, they'll try to convince you that things will finally be good in this state if we would just allow a legal sports book. Why would we not?, they say; why would anyone oppose this!? It's a scourge.
 

CCNY. Boston College. Arizona State.

All of those point shaving scandals happened before On Line Sports Wagering became prolific.
 



We don't outlaw a lot of things that are destructive and dangerous...and it isn't like you can't drive 2 hours south and gamble or get a VPN and do it on your phone.

I am not sure what the answer is, but at this point the cat is out of the bag.

As for how to deal with it with athletes...I say be very draconian.
 

Dave H said:
We don't outlaw a lot of things that are destructive and dangerous...and it isn't like you can't drive 2 hours south and gamble or get a VPN and do it on your phone.

I am not sure what the answer is, but at this point the cat is out of the bag.

As for how to deal with it with athletes...I say be very draconian.
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I think outlawing prop bets for individual performances on collegiate wagering would help.
 


Ope3 said:
I think outlawing prop bets for individual performances on collegiate wagering would help.
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That would be a great place to start but it isn't going to happen because as there are people out there willing to bet money on stuff like that there will be someone who will gladly take that money.

The explosion in sports betting is insane and unfortunately doesn't seem like something that is going to slow down anytime soon.
 

Chico Gopher said:
I've always been of the opinion that only an idiot would bet money on something they have zero control over. Unless you can somehow show me how I can control whether Dawson Garcia makes or misses a 3-point shot to win or lose a game, I maintain you have zero control of one or the other happening. Although it's completely against the rules, at least one of these guys was putting his money on something he could control.

If one has enough money that they're willing to lose on something they cannot in any way legally control, that means they have plenty of money that they don't need and can afford to throw away. If you have enough money to do that, why not do something useful with it and help others who truly could use and deserve a helping hand.
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Do you have enough money to occasionally eat at a nice restaurant? Do you ever go on a nice vacation? Do you have cable TV? Do you sometimes enjoy a nice alcoholic drink?

If you have enough money to do these things, why not use that money to help others?

Also apparently anyone who has ever been to a casino is an idiot. Nice open minded thinking.
 

Ope3 said:
I think outlawing prop bets for individual performances on collegiate wagering would help.
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offshore sites will always have these options. then your stateside apps/sites will complain and say they're being treated unfairly in the market. it's capitalism. they don't care about if it harms anyone in the process
 

Gophers1992 said:
Do you have enough money to occasionally eat at a nice restaurant? Do you ever go on a nice vacation? Do you have cable TV? Do you sometimes enjoy a nice alcoholic drink?

If you have enough money to do these things, why not use that money to help others?

Also apparently anyone who has ever been to a casino is an idiot. Nice open minded thinking.
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It's the not being able to leave the casino or close the app that's the problem.
 


Bad Gopher said:
The troubling part to me is the advocacy for gambling expansion. If you listen to the advocates, they'll try to convince you that things will finally be good in this state if we would just allow a legal sports book. Why would we not?, they say; why would anyone oppose this!? It's a scourge.
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I’ll proudly thump my chest that I voted No on the lottery in Minnesota. I and the 14 others who did the same are gloating “I told you so!”

Seriously teaching self control and discipline in the age of 24/7 access to everything might be the moral challenge of our generation.
 

jamiche said:
It's the not being able to leave the casino or close the app that's the problem.
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I understand the problems that come with gambling, I was addressing the "why don't you spend your money in better ways?" comment.
 

MNVCGUY said:
That would be a great place to start but it isn't going to happen because as there are people out there willing to bet money on stuff like that there will be someone who will gladly take that money.

The explosion in sports betting is insane and unfortunately doesn't seem like something that is going to slow down anytime soon.
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I don't think it will solve all issues by any means but I think eliminating collegiate individual performance Prop wagering is low enough hanging fruit that it will "help", by not making it available by clicking apps on a phone.

Some State Legislatures are moving in that direction, I am not sure about bipartisan nationally nor POTUS with his history in the casinos industry.
 


Gophers1992 said:
Do you have enough money to occasionally eat at a nice restaurant? Do you ever go on a nice vacation? Do you have cable TV? Do you sometimes enjoy a nice alcoholic drink?

If you have enough money to do these things, why not use that money to help others?

Also apparently anyone who has ever been to a casino is an idiot. Nice open minded thinking.
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I enjoy going out to eat or have a drink or watch a show on Netflix or take a vacation. I can pretty much count on any of those things being a reasonably enjoyable experience. I can control the circumstances of each of those things. Change the channel, Order what I want, Pick the spot I want to vacation in.

When betting on a game, you have no control of what happens in that game. Unless you plan on being there and tackling the top player during the course of the game. Now, if you find if fun to throw away money with no way to control if you get any value or satisfaction from it, I guess I can roll my eyes, shake my head and wonder what other ways you enjoy screwing yourself out of your hard earned money. Or maybe you have so much money that if you flush it down the toilet, it doesn't matter.
 

studentgopher94 said:
I don't think I've ever been radicalized on a political issue as quickly as this. I was all for sports gambling, personal responsibility and the like for forever. Now we've (mostly) got it and I couldn't be more in favor of outlawing it. The effect it has on (mostly young) men is indescribable. As a younger guy myself I can't recall a societal scourge seemingly overnight like this in my lifetime. I know it's probably too late to put the rabbit back in the hat, but why not at the very least require it to be in-person? These apps are horrific.
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You might be right, but it's been easy to bet online, even where it's "illegal", for a long time. So no, there's no putting the rabbit back in the hat in this case.
 
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upnorthkid said:
offshore sites will always have these options. then your stateside apps/sites will complain and say they're being treated unfairly in the market. it's capitalism. they don't care about if it harms anyone in the process
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The offshore sites could, but I don't think most do outside of Final Four/CFP. The prop betting really seems to be more of an issue with the apps here.
 

If you have a month to read One Thousand and One Arabian Nights in its entirety, you'll discover one of the greatest gambles ever taken. Scheherazade bet her life on her ability to survive one night as the sultan's wife. The sultan had a notorious habit of executing his wives after a single night of marriage. Every day, his vizier would bring him a new bride. Scheherazade wagered that she could prolong her life by telling the sultan a gripping cliffhanger each night, leaving him eager for the next part of the story. Her bet was an ongoing one, renewed nightly with each suspenseful tale.
 

Chico Gopher said:
I enjoy going out to eat or have a drink or watch a show on Netflix or take a vacation. I can pretty much count on any of those things being a reasonably enjoyable experience. I can control the circumstances of each of those things. Change the channel, Order what I want, Pick the spot I want to vacation in.

When betting on a game, you have no control of what happens in that game. Unless you plan on being there and tackling the top player during the course of the game. Now, if you find if fun to throw away money with no way to control if you get any value or satisfaction from it, I guess I can roll my eyes, shake my head and wonder what other ways you enjoy screwing yourself out of your hard earned money. Or maybe you have so much money that if you flush it down the toilet, it doesn't matter.
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So why aren't you using that extra money you have to help others who are in need?
 

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