The problem isn't NIL - NIL as intended is a great thing for college athletes and should have been around for years.
Baseball players sign contracts, with the Yankees or whomever can pay the most. There is no salary cap.
As long as there is college football there will be fans who will offer you athletes money.
As long as there is college football there will be booster money
As long as there is college football there will be boosters offering young athletes money. And many of these athletes come from poor or lower middle income families and see this as a lifetime opportunity to have cash in their pockets. My thoughts are you go after the money not necessarily the athlete.
"It's a strong ass deal" W. Wade (former LSU men's basketball coach)
What choice do they have though?
At least Deon has a legitimate agent / help.
Correct! NIL is Name, Image, & Likeness. Use of NIL is not what is happening. They are getting paid to play. That kid was never bringing in $13MM in marketing or use of his NIL. However, it shows how much wasteful $$ is directed to sports and entertainment.
This fiasco makes clear that NIL is an independent personal marketing arrangement between the player and third-parties, that is not a recruiting device, and certainly isn't a prohibited "pay for play" arrangement, right? If this kid--the number 7 ranked QB in his national HS class under 247's composite rating (0.9721)--has multiple school's attempting to get him $13M to play, think how much Texas must have come up with to get Arch Manning's signature on the dotted line. What are the six QBs who are ranked ahead of this kid in the 2023 recruiting class commanding in NIL money? I'm glad the Gophers are what they are--an actual college football team.
I would imagine not 13 million given this kid isn’t getting that and this was clearly a lie to get him to sign. Every kid is going to sign for something different and this guy was looking for money.
It looked like exactly 1 post until it brought a troll out.
This is why the NCAA and whoever else is involved should stop trying to differentiate between NIL, pay for play, etc. Just let people spend their money however they wish.
Well let’s be clear… he did NOT get 13 million.
That is the crazy part of all this....some collective was saying they would throw 13 million in pay for play money (not NIL) at a recruit who hasn't even taken a single college snap and could be a total bust like so many of them end up being.
I think the argument would be breach of contract. His argument will be that he contracted with the University of Florida and it's affiliate (Gator Collective) to enter into this agreement. He would not have been a part of the contract but for the University of Florida's involvement. His case gets really strong if he has evidence Florida officials used terms like "we" when discussing the Gator Collective.
It's completely sustainable for athletic departments -- they don't put in a single dime!
So if I enter into a parking contract with a parking garage that's next door to a coffee shop that I really like and go to daily and the garage has signage up saying "coffee shop parking here", and then the garage cancels my contract for no valid reason ... I can sue that coffee shop because I only entered that contract since they were affiliated with the coffee shop?
Florida will probably release him from his obligation and try to get as clear as they can from all this before they get tangled up in any sort of legal mess.
Florida can try ... but the lawsuit against the collective is already coming? He was promised $13M and that is not coming, now. Bob is saying legal damages could apply to U of Florida, anyway, regardless if they release him, I believe.
I agree. How NIL is being used now is a real problem and ruins what could be a great thing for a lot of college kids.
Not a chance (IMO). The NCAA knows this is happening and even if some schools are smart enough to not leave a paper trail, it's only a distinction without a difference.
Per my post below
My source for the following, where I am quoting from the source, it is note as (per source)-
What Is NIL in College Sports? The NCAA Rules Explained | BestColleges
One year into the name, image, and likeness era, the NCAA and college athletes, coaches, and boosters are jockeying to define the parameters of the policy.www.bestcolleges.com
My premise is that the NCAA knew they were screwed -
The timing detailed from an excellent summation (per source) I found online, shows the NCAA was playing Chess while everyone else was playing checkers. Just like at the carnival ring toss where you can win the ginormous bear and everyone is mezmized by them - very few win those bears, just like very few athletes will make real cash off of this.
- after losing two lower court decisions (per source)
- and knew that it was highly likely that the SC would uphold the lower courts' decisions.
- they were also aware of pending legislation in several states and went about to lobby that legislation so it would be an NIL model vs. pay for play.
- the NIL model removes them from being the administrator of that program.
- allows them to bogusly, IMO, cling to a notion of amateurism.
- MOST importantly they don't have to put in any of their own money.
The just F'ed the players one more time with thier BS. They are a corrupt, venal organization and I will love when they finally die.
Summation -
The NCAA’s decision on name, image, and likeness was announced one day before laws in more than a dozen states were set to take effect that provided the same standards as the new policy.(per source)
(My comments - magically one day or was this coordinated, so they are still running the show dominate the news cycle).
The decision also came weeks after a unanimous Supreme Court decision in NCAA v. Alston that found the NCAA cannot bar colleges from making education-related payments to college athletes. The decision affirmed two previous rulings by lower courts that held that such actions by the NCAA were in violation of the Sherman Antitrust Act.(per source)
(My comments - Ruh Roh").
"The NCAA is not above the law," Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh wrote in a June 21, 2021, opinion. "The NCAA couches its arguments for not paying student athletes in innocuous labels. But the labels cannot disguise the reality: The NCAA's business model would be flatly illegal in almost any other industry in America."(per source)
(My comments -Tongue lashing from a justice and by announcing before the state laws went into effect, they can say, wink wink, we fixed and get your filly robes off our anti-trust exemption.
Sure, this is a bit Michael Claytonish, but when you're talking about the type of cash the NCAA makes with March Madness and a Anti-trust exemption to boot, nothing is beyond the pale.
I'm kinda at that point
You're at the point that athletic departments themselves should be the ones paying players?
No he shouldn’t be allowed to walk.
The reality is that "NIL" is probably only being abused in basketball and football where the money in the whole system is huge.