Better recruits than we ever have still doesn't come close to the ones Oregon and OSU can pay.
Weren’t Ohio State, and Oregon more recently always getting those players? Even before NIL?
All NIL does is bring the payment of players out into the open. Major programs have always been paying for talent, and paying more than we could. The naivete of some fans just amazes me. It's always been about money. It's just about a LOT MORE money now.
No shit. There are 16 other teams in the conference. If you are hoping for us to recruit like those two I got some bad news for ya……
I do not. I wish we could. I wish we had the money to compete for the level of talent that places like that do. But we don't. We are a mid-pack team with mid-pack money, and mid-pack talent. Unless something changes we will continue to be that. PJ can be frustrating, but ultimately, he isn't the problem.
PJ runs 90 percent of his program just fine. Everything related to game day planning, game day philosophies, and in game coaching he’s the worst. Terrible. Pretty much unwatchable product win or lose the last couple of years especially.
I stand corrected...
You know.... Having to resort to name calling to back up your point.... Remind me again, who is the dumb person? Better go look in the mirror idiot....
Who'd I rather have? I'd try Fleck as AD (he'd raise NIL money, if anybody can, and he would super-charge the Department); at HC, an experienced offensive coordinator who loves to recruit; at OC, a creative mind who doubles as a QB whisperer; and at DC, Phil Parker. At least two more wins per year. And, ideally, competitive efforts rather than humiliating, dispiriting blowouts against the top B1G teams. Go Gophers.
Are you kidding?
Nope
They get more 5 stars than we get 4 stars.
You can throw in Michigan, Penn state, USC, and now Indiana. Oh, and even northwestern had a singular donor pay for their new stadium by himself.
Which is why the SEC hates it so much. Now that it's legal, they have too much competition.
So you prefer the losing we had with Mason, etc?
This post describes the ethos of something like a religious belief.
Huh? They don't have to under the table ... the settlement allows them to rev share $20.5M per year.
Then explain Wisconsin's Rose Bowl top 10 finish seasons, in the 90's under Alvarez and in the 2000's under Bielema.
Some of it is public. I believe someone filed an FOIA request regarding Texas Tech which showed $28 million in contracts, and that was before NIL money was distributed, so the rest is an estimate.
Read closer what I wrote. People are saying "NIL doesn't come directly from the school."
How much each player makes? Correct. But approximately how much is spent on NIL at places like Oregon and OSU for football? It's been openly talked about by the institutions, coaches, and some players. Even Rutgers, in their yearly documentation shows they run at a $50m deficit in their athletic department and just charge it off to the University.
They don't pay under the table anymore. It's all legal now. And there's no clearinghouse that you speak of.
You're comparing then to now?
I think coaching and recruiting meant more then. Money still mattered, but maybe not as much as it does now, and maybe not as much as it did in the SEC/Big 12. A couple grand here and there. Maybe a car? But not million dollar contracts. I would not be surprised if Wisconsin's current situation is not the new norm for them. A middle of the pack team like us.
Wisconsin does have whales, they just choose not to under the current staff. Think John menard
That's why when people say "Fleck has had nine years..." it doesn't fly. It's a completely different business model now.
I know there are people with a lot of money in that state. Menard, the Johnson Wax family, The Kohl family, the Kohler family etc. I honestly don't know enough about the support of Badger athletics.