ESPN Gameday going to NDSU next week

1. Money: No way NDSU can pay coaches at the level that would be required;
2. Facilities: FargoDome seats approximately 18,000, far too small to support #1; Bison Sports Arena seats approximately 8,000, far too small to support #1; Let alone supporting all other non-revenue sports.
3. Renovate to expand? No way.

NDSU's biggest issues in joining an FBS conference are not money and facilities but instead they are geography and market size. NDSU could join the MAC or Sun Belt tomorrow and be just fine from a financial and facility standpoint...a conference like the MWC would be more of a stretch and there is no point in really talking about anything above that.

I do think talk may soon start about building a new stadium...right now the school is probably leaving a lot money on the table.
 


In wearing green to TCF, MN fans wouldn't interactive with you, talk with you, or even look at you. I was beneath them, and they scowled when I even tried to converse.

Yep - had to be the Minnesota fans, because the alternative would be who???
 

I've traveled to KU, CSU and KSU the past 4 years, along with the MN game in 2011. In wearing green to TCF, MN fans wouldn't interactive with you, talk with you, or even look at you. I was beneath them, and they scowled when I even tried to converse. Contrast that with K State fans who went out of their way to visit, see where I was from, and urge me to enjoy my time in their town. They actually cared if I had a good experience at the game, and people visited with me throughout.

Maybe you were truly sitting by some bison fans that were behaving poorly . . . or maybe you hated the fact that they expected to win in your house. If the fans were rude, my apologies.


i find this to be the biggest crock of crap! i remember tailgating and ndsu fans would come up and tell minnesota fans to "respect d2 titles." and when our groups laughed about that the ndsu fans around us became irate and acted so damn arrogant. many other gopher fans ran into the same issue and now that gopher fans laughed at the d2 thing ndsu fans tell anyone that will listen that minnesota fans were @ssholes.

ndsu is easily the most arrogant fanbase i have met, they make michigan fans look modest.
 

i find this to be the biggest crock of crap! i remember tailgating and ndsu fans would come up and tell minnesota fans to "respect d2 titles." and when our groups laughed about that the ndsu fans around us became irate and acted so damn arrogant. many other gopher fans ran into the same issue and now that gopher fans laughed at the d2 thing ndsu fans tell anyone that will listen that minnesota fans were @ssholes.

ndsu is easily the most arrogant fanbase i have met, they make michigan fans look modest.

Amen. You speak the truth and I completely agree.
 



NDSU's biggest issues in joining an FBS conference are not money and facilities but instead they are geography and market size. NDSU could join the MAC or Sun Belt tomorrow and be just fine from a financial and facility standpoint...a conference like the MWC would be more of a stretch and there is no point in really talking about anything above that.

I do think talk may soon start about building a new stadium...right now the school is probably leaving a lot money on the table.

Correct. The capacity of 18,000 is sufficient for FBS football (there are several schools that don't draw close to this, despite the attendance policy with the NCAA that isn't enforced). There is no subdivision of D1 for other sports - they are all D1 already. NDSU played in the NCAA basketball tournament two years ago.

The biggest issue is location in relation to a conference. Had the WAC remained a football conference, it might have been a possibility, but realistically, there's not a good option. And a conference would need to invite NDSU to join - they can't just say "we're going up to FBS." It's just not that likely at this point.

I spent the weekend with some friends up in Northern MN at a cabin, and one is a HUGE NDSU fan. I'm actually going to a game there with him this fall, and I asked him about this. He doesn't think there's any money in town to build a larger stadium, and he said that the only reason the Fargodome doesn't lose money is because of Bison football because it's poorly managed. He also said that he didn't see any reason to move up to FBS - even if somehow they could get into the MAC, they probably couldn't make the money they do now, so why make the move.
 

i find this to be the biggest crock of crap! i remember tailgating and ndsu fans would come up and tell minnesota fans to "respect d2 titles." and when our groups laughed about that the ndsu fans around us became irate and acted so damn arrogant. many other gopher fans ran into the same issue and now that gopher fans laughed at the d2 thing ndsu fans tell anyone that will listen that minnesota fans were @ssholes.

ndsu is easily the most arrogant fanbase i have met, they make michigan fans look modest.

So in 2011, prior to NDSU winning any FCS titles, NDSU fans just came up to you and mocked you with . . . "our DII teams were great in the 1980s (30 years ago), so how 'bout that mr. Gopher fan! Whooo, Whooo, in your face".

Uh-huh, O'rilly? That's your story?

Now I didn't here any of that stuff, I just tried to visit with folks around me in the stands while the score was 0-0, and I was sitting quietly with my daughters. The folks were not a friendly sort, maybe anticipating the inevitable. Anyway, that's not the way OOC visiting fans were treated in Manhattan. Just a fact. Maybe it was because it was a FCS team, but it wasn't about my group's behavior, I can assure you.
 

i find this to be the biggest crock of crap! i remember tailgating and ndsu fans would come up and tell minnesota fans to "respect d2 titles." and when our groups laughed about that the ndsu fans around us became irate and acted so damn arrogant. many other gopher fans ran into the same issue and now that gopher fans laughed at the d2 thing ndsu fans tell anyone that will listen that minnesota fans were @ssholes.

ndsu is easily the most arrogant fanbase i have met, they make michigan fans look modest.

You're confusing arrogance and insecurity. Bison fans are not arrogant about their standing in the sports world vs. the Big Ten. They know DII and FCS titles don't (and shouldn't) mean much to a BCS level school. That causes some to beat their chests a little harder. But every school's fanbase has its share of jerks. Most Bison supporters are not jerks, just good fans who happen to be justifiably proud of what their school has accomplished. Nothing wrong with that.

This is great for NDSU and FCS football...no need to rain on their parade.
 



So in 2011, prior to NDSU winning any FCS titles, NDSU fans just came up to you and mocked you with . . . "our DII teams were great in the 1980s (30 years ago), so how 'bout that mr. Gopher fan! Whooo, Whooo, in your face".

Uh-huh, O'rilly? That's your story?

Now I didn't here any of that stuff, I just tried to visit with folks around me in the stands while the score was 0-0, and I was sitting quietly with my daughters. The folks were not a friendly sort, maybe anticipating the inevitable. Anyway, that's not the way OOC visiting fans were treated in Manhattan. Just a fact. Maybe it was because it was a FCS team, but it wasn't about my group's behavior, I can assure you.

Yes that happened and then we stole some tippy cup table from some frat boys that wore hats with the horns like Fred flinstone did at his men's club deal. (Not sure if you know what group that was)
 

The Bison have the perfect situation in the FCS right now. They can compete for national championships on a yearly basis. Why would they make the move to FBS? There is nothing to gain from that.
 

The Gopher fans expressing the most venom towards NDSU and their fans are really embarrassing themselves. You should really put the shovel down and stop digging. The easiest way to shut up their fans here is to just stop feeding them. Good grief
 

The Gopher fans expressing the most venom towards NDSU and their fans are really embarrassing themselves. You should really put the shovel down and stop digging. The easiest way to shut up their fans here is to just stop feeding them. Good grief

How original.
 



The Bison have the perfect situation in the FCS right now. They can compete for national championships on a yearly basis. Why would they make the move to FBS? There is nothing to gain from that.

Our AD has pretty much said a few things could pull us out of the FCS and that is more of the national FCS powers leaving and FBS schools refusing to play us. These FBS games have been a major deal for our program...they always seem to draw large crowds of alumni and they are big for recruiting(especially when we walk out with a win). I'm not sure we can really replace them if they go away.
 


It would be pretty cool to see someone fly the gopher flag during the broadcast or maybe a kill fathead. Anyone up for doing this in Fargo?
 

It would be pretty cool to see someone fly the gopher flag during the broadcast or maybe a kill fathead. Anyone up for doing this in Fargo?

Paging Dr. Don...
 

It would be pretty cool to see someone fly the gopher flag during the broadcast or maybe a kill fathead. Anyone up for doing this in Fargo?

Now that is finally a good idea. Some northwest Minnesota Gopher fans needs to gather up a good sized group of Gopher rooters and go fly some U of M flags/colors in the background of the ESPN shots. Like a lot fans do with various school flags at Gameday locations even if said schools aren't actually playing in the game that day.
 

Now that is finally a good idea. Some northwest Minnesota Gopher fans needs to gather up a good sized group of Gopher rooters and go fly some U of M flags/colors in the background of the ESPN shots. Like a lot fans do with various school flags at Gameday locations even if said schools aren't actually playing in the game that day.

The most famous traveling flag is the Washington St. flag. It is at every GameDay telecast.
 

This is a real thing? Are you sure we're not being trolled?
 

This is a real thing? Are you sure we're not being trolled?

Oh they're going there all right and good for them. Sadly they're still complaining about it. :banghead:

http://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2013-09-17/gameday-fargo

The news made fans of Bison Nation ecstatic with the imminent arrival of Lee Corso and Co., but some of them are grumbling about where the show’s setting up shop. Rather than broadcasting from the Fargodome, where dozens of green and yellow coach buses and other homemade party wagons gather for tailgating, ESPN will be in front of the city’s historic Fargo Theatre.

Fitting said his director returned from a scouting trip to the city of about 100,000 people with a single recommendation that serves up a slice of postcard-worthy Americana.

“It just screamed at him as the best location,” Fitting said.

Parts of Bison Nation think otherwise, so much so that officials with the school’s athletic department have implored them to stop tweeting their displeasure to ESPN and pleaded with fans to come downtown before the 2:30 p.m. game against Delaware State.

“It’ll be more than worth it to sacrifice three hours of tailgating to head downtown, support local businesses and provide the best welcome ESPN College GameDay has ever received,” NDSU athletic director Gene Taylor said on the gobison.com website. Besides, Taylor said, the tailgating lots will open earlier than usual.

It’s only the fourth time GameDay has featured an FCS matchup — the last in 2008 for Hampton at Florida A&M — and it comes during a week where there’s a dearth of top-flight Football Subdivision games...

Fitting said he understands why some fans, particularly NDSU students, are worried about the nearly two-mile trip downtown.

“But we want to show off the school, we want to show off Fargo, we want to show off North Dakota in the absolute best light. The downtown area does that for what we’re looking for,” Fitting said, noting ESPN is working with the school to line up transportation..

Fargo Police Lt. Joel Vettel said he expects people to begin lining up about 5 a.m. for the show, which runs from 9 to 12 a.m. EST.

“The tough part about this is that we have no idea how many people are going to show up,” said Vettel, a former Bison wrestler. “We’re going to prepare for the worst and hope for the best.”
 

It would be pretty cool to see someone fly the gopher flag during the broadcast or maybe a kill fathead. Anyone up for doing this in Fargo?

I see I was paged to do this. I won't.


1. I am not going to rain on their parade, let them enjoy it.
2. If "Game Day" was at U of M, and a NDSU fan did it to us, you people would scream bloody murder.
3. I won't stoop as low as a Bison fan would.
 

I see I was paged to do this. I won't.


1. I am not going to rain on their parade, let them enjoy it.
2. If "Game Day" was at U of M, and a NDSU fan did it to us, you people would scream bloody murder.
3. I won't stoop as low as a Bison fan would.
Have you ever watched Gameday? There are often flags from multiple schools. It's a national show.
 

I agree with dr don, I'm also another gopher fan stuck in bison territory ( go to school at Concordia) and I agree to let them have their moment they deserved it for their success
 



Have you ever watched Gameday? There are often flags from multiple schools. It's a national show.

this. watch gameday. the request was not anywhere close to being out of line. not in the least. GO GOPHERS! SKI-U-MAH!
 

this. watch gameday. the request was not anywhere close to being out of line. not in the least. GO GOPHERS! SKI-U-MAH!

I never said it was out of line. I am not going to it, period.
 

I never said it was out of line. I am not going to it, period.

that is fair. my point was simply that if some do and they decide to break out some U of M paraphernalia on camera, people shouldn't have the least bit of issue with it. it would be no different than how virtually every espn game day broadcast is.

since i won't be anywhere near that part of the country on saturday, we'll be at OUR gopher game and tailgating in minneapolis, i hope those who are in that region go ahead and make the trip/effort to accomplish it. would be fun to see. :D
 

You know damn well someone will be flying an old school UND Fighting Sioux flag (and few people nationwide will know the difference.)
 




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