Email to Strib Sports Editors RE: Jim Souhan

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3399 said:
The Star Tribune has written many many many positive articles this fall about the team. I want the columnists to ask questions. Why would I want to buy a paper that is just a propaganda piece for the athletic department? Sid has been a consistent propaganda blow hard for years. They have to have writers that have differing point of views. There is nothing wrong with that. Give it up and move on. Who cares. Every other team in the Big Ten has media people questioning their programs.
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I think maybe you are missing the point here. I don't want a propaganda piece for the football program either, but like Unregistered User I can't abide uninformed opinion. Having a different point of view is fine. Just have some factual basis to your opinion.
 

Wow, stop beating a dead horse. This thread needs to end. Souhan's article is an opinion piece. He can have his opinion just as BandannaGuy can have his.

Let's drop it and talk about actual football.....Maybe about the big upcoming game against Michigan.
 

Gopher Bandanna Guy said:
I think maybe you are missing the point here. I don't want a propaganda piece for the football program either, but like Unregistered User I can't abide uninformed opinion. Having a different point of view is fine. Just have some factual basis to your opinion.
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http://www.americanthinker.com/blog..._itself_-_says_its_nba_team_is_too_white.html

Agree BG, but with Souhan, and the article referenced in the link, the Startrib has writers more fitting the supermarket tabloids or shows like Jerry Springer. They are more concerned about reaction and agenda then they are about facts. Though I will still catch some articles...at the same time opinion pieces are not high on my list of concerns and Souhan, and now Zgoda really need to stay on target before I bother with them again.
 

Gopher Bandanna Guy said:
I think maybe you are missing the point here. I don't want a propaganda piece for the football program either, but like Unregistered User I can't abide uninformed opinion. Having a different point of view is fine. Just have some factual basis to your opinion.
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Gopher Bandana Guy, I really enjoyed reading your letters to Souhan and the Editor. Someone has to be rational to the STrib and everyone else when they are being ridiculous and doing little to no research on a topic! So, great job of calling them on it!

If I see you, a guy in a Bandana at the next two homes games, (Not that I have ever met you before) you can definitely expect a beer and a handshake from me! Good work! :clap::clap::clap:
 



Unregistered User said:
Earlier this summer, one of my buddies nicknamed the Timberwolves as "The Cream Team".
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A casual joke is one thing, and article in a major local newspaper strongly implying the intentionality of it is another thing altogether.
 

I don't like Souhan but at least he is not Andy baggot or Tom Oates in Madison cuz those blow badger sunshine for fear of who knows what. 'badgers national hopes not dead yet' dateline 10/14/2012
 


I don't care one bit if he rips the Gophers. There's a giant difference between a columnist and a beat writer. The problem is that when he (and Patrick) write about the Gophers, they normally do so with little actual factual basis. They don't watch college football, they don't go to practice and they sure as hell don't go to games. Souhan wrote a column last year about how he didn't understand or care about college football. And it turns out, this isn't the only time he's placed a column on his editor's desk without doing the research that anyone (beat writer or columnist) should undertake before writing something that has their name attached to the byline.

http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/..._for_lazy_journalism_in_star_tribune_oped.php
 



I thought the article was fair. I don't believe it is a unfair question to ask why Nelson wasnt playing sooner?

I thought and said it privately (for obvious reasons) last season and publicly this season that it was unfair to the team to "assign" Gray as the starter and Shortel as the back up (last season). The result of doing this is your best QB being red shirted 6 games into the season.

With that being said; Kill deserves credit for not staying married to a bad decision.
 

Sportsfan24 said:
I thought the article was fair. I don't believe it is a unfair question to ask why Nelson wasnt playing sooner?

I thought and said it privately (for obvious reasons) last season and publicly this season that it was unfair to the team to "assign" Gray as the starter and Shortel as the back up (last season). The result of doing this is your best QB being red shirted 6 games into the season.

With that being said; Kill deserves credit for not staying married to a bad decision.
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Sigh. I wanted to let this topic die, since I've annoyed enough folks with it. But I couldn't let this comment go unanswered.

I never said the premise (or question) of the article was unfair. In fact I think it's a very valid question. If you actually read any of my letters to both Souhan and the editors, you'd know that. It's the ridiculous conclusions drawn by Souhan without investigating deeper, that I take umbrage with.

I'd note that you actually drew a more reasonable conclusion than Souhan (Kill deserves credit for not being married to a 'bad decision'). Funny that.
Though I don't believe that Kill's decision may be the best in the long term, I do believe it was made out of necessity and so what's done is done.
 

I had an uncle, Harley Sorensen, who wrote for the Strib and later for the SF Gate. He was the master of hyperbole. He would attempt to make anything he didn't personally like sound unjust, untrue, and part of the conspiracy of the right wing of the republic. He makes Souhan look fair minded. God rest his decrepit soul. As far as Souhan goes, I don't think he deserves even this thread.
 

Gopher Bandanna Guy said:
Sigh. I wanted to let this topic die, since I've annoyed enough folks with it. But I couldn't let this comment go unanswered.

I never said the premise (or question) of the article was unfair. In fact I think it's a very valid question. If you actually read any of my letters to both Souhan and the editors, you'd know that. It's the ridiculous conclusions drawn by Souhan without investigating deeper, that I take umbrage with.

I'd note that you actually drew a more reasonable conclusion than Souhan (Kill deserves credit for not being married to a 'bad decision'). Funny that.
Though I don't believe that Kill's decision may be the best in the long term, I do believe it was made out of necessity and so what's done is done.
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In fairness to you...I will admit I only "skimmed" through your notes. My applogies if I didn't totally understand your position.
 



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