Doogie's post-game radio rant (audio link available)

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Doogie said:
This is a message board. Different standards, at least in my opinion... but can certainly stop sharing tiny tidbits like that. Also, I doubt any of these folks want to go on the record right now. November 28 might be a different story.
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If there are different standards then go ahead and give us some more details. Are they on deep background or off the record? Don't name names in either case, but at least give us an idea as to what is being said.
 

Doogie said:
This is a message board. Different standards, at least in my opinion... but can certainly stop sharing tiny tidbits like that. Also, I doubt any of these folks want to go on the record right now. November 28 might be a different story.
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More like no standards. I will agree that there is a difference between you and 24. He has CFB knowledge and has been a classy guy. BTW, I no longer defend this coaching staff.
 

UpnorthGo4: We also took 2 calls from so-called die-hard fans who said the same thing. I respectfully disagreed. But Phil is a smart cat. He is a "U" alum. He wants what is best for the program. In other words, a new coach/regime. The fastest way to that result in his opinion to is to lose games this year.
 

MBAGuy said:
If there are different standards then go ahead and give us some more details. Are they on deep background or off the record? Don't name names in either case, but at least give us an idea as to what is being said.
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off the record = don't use
background = usable, but don't attach my name

Uneasiness. A sense that apathy will set in. A belief that the Nov. 27 Iowa game will be like a home game for them. They have noticed vitriol/outrage directed at Brew/the team for 3-straight home games. The stadium will only be must-see for so long. It's beautiful, but eventually they have to win to keep it full, sell the suites, etc.
 


people who get mad at a media person for ripping a program that lost to a fcs team are okay with a losing team and are poison to this program.
 

We can clearing see that being a "U" alum is not in itself qualification to be a Gopher fan. Cheering against "your team" is never ever cool.

His attitude should be duly noted with the station by every Gopher fan. That does not belong on the air. Ever!
 

Not even ripping the program. Just a few people. Always have been a believer in Weber. Wouldn't shock me if he played very well next week, and helped beat an average USC team. Saw them vs. Virginia last night, and they are beatable... and considering that the staff has been game-planning for USC for a while, I expect them to play well. Still can't make-up for a loss to a middle-tier 1-AA team. Just my thoughts.
 

Doogie said:
off the record = don't use
background = usable, but don't attach my name

Uneasiness. A sense that apathy will set in. A belief that the Nov. 27 Iowa game will be like a home game for them. They have noticed vitriol/outrage directed at Brew/the team for 3-straight home games. The stadium will only be must-see for so long. It's beautiful, but eventually they have to win to keep it full, sell the suites, etc.
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OK...that's helpful. Thank you. Those are pretty consistent with my feelings. Especially the Iowa game. That has the potential to be utterly humiliating.
 



Doogie said:
Chris: Well aware where you stand. With your son a starter and a leader, so put in a position to succeed, and has by the way, by Brew, wouldn't expect you to feel any other way. But when you lose to two Dakota schools in four years, plus have a 55-0 loss to Iowa on your resume, so have three of the four or so worst losses in the program's history, enough is enough... confusion still occurring -- timeout burned on offense late yesterday... #1 in penalties two straight years (a personal foul penalty in all but two games last year)... offensive ineptitude not seen around here in a long time last year... I've seen enough. He said the program was "light-years" ahead of when he took it over. He also said this was his most athletic team to date. His spewing of BS has to stop. They have better talent. But what evidence is there that he can coach them up? If you listened to the whole show, my co-host, Phil Mackey, said he was rooting against the Gophers. I never would do that. Also said they will win "games" the rest of the season. Maybe even next week against a beatable USC team. But when you lose to a middle-tier 1-AA team, in my opinion, no win or wins the rest of the year can erase that. Just my feelings. If you want to call me "unrational" so be it. But we have to remember the side that you're coming from. An extremely biased one.
By the way, my venom is nothing compared to numerous people within the athletic department.
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That's bull*&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!# and pretty weak of you. Don't try and dimenish my point a view because I have son on the team (who receives NO scholarship money I remind you). My alligience and intelligence can not be bought. I'm a principled man. I don't blindly follow anyone.....even when it may cost me tens of thousands of dollars. Can you say the same? In the future don't ever play me like that. I say what I mean and mean what I say. You have a financial interest for blogging on this website..not me. I have been posting and calling sport shows since you where in elementary school, I didn't just start because my son happened to be playing.

Back to the point, Doogie there are too many games left in the season to proclaim the season lost. To make that assertion is flat out unreasonable and over the top. This was a horrible lost but it only counts as ONE lost. I could go into the X's and O's as to why this team is having problems and the subsequent X's and O's as to why it can be fixed but you don't have the sports knowledge to understand. Not meant as a dig but considering what you do for living, it's unfortunately and astonishingly true.

We're still cool but if you ever try that again I'm going to make you stand in the corner.
 

Doogie said:
Wouldn't shock me if he played very well next week, and helped beat an average USC team. Saw them vs. Virginia last night, and they are beatable... and considering that the staff has been game-planning for USC for a while, I expect them to play well. Still can't make-up for a loss to a middle-tier 1-AA team. Just my thoughts.
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already hedging your bets, i see. just in case the gophers can pull of a win against an "average" USC.
 


Not diminishing anything... but to 100% ignore would be foolish. I believe you were the one who called me "unrational" to start with.

That's the whole idea of this board. Opinions can be written. They obviously can be disagreed with. Wouldn't shock me at all if they beat an average USC team next week. They've been game-planning for that game for a while... I expect them to play well, and they will win gameS the rest of the season... but just believe the ill-will created from a loss vs. an average 1-AA team can't be erased.
 



i'm batman said:
already hedging your bets, i see. just in case the gophers can pull of a win against an "average" USC.
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hedging what bets? Haven't laid out a solid take on this game outside of preseason predicting a 6-6 record, and this being one of the losses. Since they have been game-planning for this game for a while, I do expect a much, much, much better performance. Will it be enough to beat a coach that was turned down by the "U", so he may have a long memory? We'll see.
 

Doogie said:
hedging what bets? Haven't laid out a solid take on this game outside of preseason predicting a 6-6 record, and this being one of the losses. Since they have been game-planning for this game for a while, I do expect a much, much, much better performance. Will it be enough to beat a coach that was turned down by the "U", so he may have a long memory? We'll see.
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i truly hope your personal life is fantastic, because your professional life is pathetic.
 

Doogie said:
Chris: Well aware where you stand. With your son a starter and a leader, so put in a position to succeed, and has by the way, by Brew, wouldn't expect you to feel any other way. But when you lose to two Dakota schools in four years, plus have a 55-0 loss to Iowa on your resume, so have three of the four or so worst losses in the program's history, enough is enough... confusion still occurring -- timeout burned on offense late yesterday... #1 in penalties two straight years (a personal foul penalty in all but two games last year)... offensive ineptitude not seen around here in a long time last year... I've seen enough. He said the program was "light-years" ahead of when he took it over. He also said this was his most athletic team to date. His spewing of BS has to stop. They have better talent. But what evidence is there that he can coach them up? If you listened to the whole show, my co-host, Phil Mackey, said he was rooting against the Gophers. I never would do that. Also said they will win "games" the rest of the season. Maybe even next week against a beatable USC team. But when you lose to a middle-tier 1-AA team, in my opinion, no win or wins the rest of the year can erase that. Just my feelings. If you want to call me "unrational" so be it. But we have to remember the side that you're coming from. An extremely biased one.
By the way, my venom is nothing compared to numerous people within the athletic department.
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this south dakota loss was terrible but 3-4 worst losses in programs history? but get real! i would say blowing the lead against michigan and then texas tech are the 2 most painful gopher games i have ever watched. i will give him 1 of the worst games in gopher history with iowa loss but that is it.

there isnt any evidence showing these kids havent been coached up so to speculate on things you have no clue whether true or not is pretty weak! im willing to bet all these kids are much better football players from when they stepped onto campus to now...just sayin!

i have liked brew and his positivity but this loss at this time killed any momentum brew had left in the tank. lets get him out and move on. i blame maturi number 1 and brew number 2 so i hope brew is there to help pack maturi's office as well!
 

Doogie

I have been critical of some of the coverage from the local media in the recent past. Specifically, I believe that both 1500am and 1130am have taken unnecessarily cheap shots at the Gopher Football Program in past. Specifically, these outlets would chide the Gophers for throttling a FCS opponent in the past (remember when that used to happen), and at the same time would criticize the team for not beating those same said teams. Or, they would criticize the Gophers for scheduling the "Dakota-directional-esque" teams in 1st place, but then, when scheduling/playing and then getting beat by say, Cal, they would rip the team for not being able to defeat an "upper tier" program.

In other words, the Gophers were in an absolute no-win situation. They made piling on and snarky criticism of Gopher football a cottage industry. These facts are irrefutable.

That said . . .

I listened to your entire program on my (long) drive home yesterday, and the analysis and criticisms were deserved, considered, objective, and realistic.

The show was spot-on, and I applaud you. Good job.

I ask only that, when that day comes in the future, when the program is deserving of praise and accolades, that objectivity and realism reign the day then, too.
 


spermophilus said:
I have been critical of some of the coverage from the local media in the recent past. Specifically, I believe that both 1500am and 1130am have taken unnecessarily cheap shots at the Gopher Football Program in past. Specifically, these outlets would chide the Gophers for throttling a FCS opponent in the past (remember when that used to happen), and at the same time would criticize the team for not beating those same said teams. Or, they would criticize the Gophers for scheduling the "Dakota-directional-esque" teams in 1st place, but then, when scheduling/playing and then getting beat by say, Cal, they would rip the team for not being able to defeat an "upper tier" program.

In other words, the Gophers were in an absolute no-win situation. They made piling on and snarky criticism of Gopher football a cottage industry. These facts are irrefutable.

That said . . .

I listened to your entire program on my (long) drive home yesterday, and the analysis and criticisms were deserved, considered, objective, and realistic.

The show was spot-on, and I applaud you. Good job.

I ask only that, when that day comes in the future, when the program is deserving of praise and accolades, that objectivity and realism reign the day then, too.
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No, they weren't. They could just beat a good team. Pretty sure not even the Star-Trib that some of you hate so much would criticize that.
 

spermophilus said:
I have been critical of some of the coverage from the local media in the recent past. Specifically, I believe that both 1500am and 1130am have taken unnecessarily cheap shots at the Gopher Football Program in past. Specifically, these outlets would chide the Gophers for throttling a FCS opponent in the past (remember when that used to happen), and at the same time would criticize the team for not beating those same said teams. Or, they would criticize the Gophers for scheduling the "Dakota-directional-esque" teams in 1st place, but then, when scheduling/playing and then getting beat by say, Cal, they would rip the team for not being able to defeat an "upper tier" program.

In other words, the Gophers were in an absolute no-win situation. They made piling on and snarky criticism of Gopher football a cottage industry. These facts are irrefutable.

That said . . .

I listened to your entire program on my (long) drive home yesterday, and the analysis and criticisms were deserved, considered, objective, and realistic.

The show was spot-on, and I applaud you. Good job.

I ask only that, when that day comes in the future, when the program is deserving of praise and accolades, that objectivity and realism reign the day then, too.
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Duly-noted. If they beat USC, I'll praise them with Mr. Phunn on Monday the 20th. Not always negative by the way. Have showered Weber, McKnight, Kirksey, Royston, etc. with praise at different points this offseason/last season.
 

Buck the Fadgers said:
Yes, 2 games into the season is pretty unexpected. Was losing to South Dakota unexpected? It seems like some people still don't realize that we just lost to SOUTH DAKOTA. There is no way to defend it at all. I have been on the Brewster side until this game, I thought we all understood this couldn't happen again? What's it going to take for some of you, going 1-11 again? Or is that 0-12 the magic mark?
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I must not be clear in getting my point across. I will try again. Losing to South Dakota should never be exceptable. Regardless of injuries, bounces of the ball or weather. However, losing to SD only counts as one loss on our record and we still have 10 more games to define what kind of season we will have.

The media should be very critical of the gophers for losing this game. However, ANYONE that says the season has been defined and determined by that ONE loss and nothing that happens over the next 10 weeks will matter is at best being unrational.
 

doogie's rant

I listened to the show and if running a talk show is about how Doogie feels after the game, wonderful job. I think we need some voice of reason. All I heard was Brewster was given this franchise and was failing. People this is a group of college athletes not pro players. It is not a franchise but a college,yes we all want them to win but come on, get off your high horse and get back to reality. Do you think the players want to lose? If you were a recruit and heard this rant, would you consider this college? Is that someone's idea of great radio. I just had to change the channel.
 

Sportsfan24 said:
I must not be clear in getting my point across. I will try again. Losing to South Dakota should never be exceptable. Regardless of injuries, bounces of the ball or weather. However, losing to SD only counts as one loss on our record and we still have 10 more games to define what kind of season we will have.

The media should be very critical of the gophers for losing this game. However, ANYONE that says the season has been defined and determined by that ONE loss and nothing that happens over the next 10 weeks will matter is at best being unrational.[/QUOTE]
Wow, that's verbatim from the chief! Good soldier!
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I liked what Doogie said and agree with most of it but as soon as I heard Mackey say he was rooting against the Gophers, I immediately turned it off and probably won't listen again this year. I don't care what the situation is, you never ever cheer against your team. Terrible.

I don't know who said it also, but someone said it was so "amateurish" when our guys got excited after making a big play. I thought that point was so ridiculous as well. They're kids, this isn't the NFL.
 

Rant all you want

And you know why?

You are passionate. You are speaking for a many of us. It actually made me better to listen to you. forgive me if I repeated anything on this thread, but if its a massive blowout next week against USC, Brewster needs to be fired that night.

How can Brewster say to a recruit that we're building something here when we have taken the biggest step back in the history of this program.

Thank God I never bought one of those Brew Crew T-shirts.
 

Doogie said:
Not diminishing anything... but to 100% ignore would be foolish. I believe you were the one who called me "unrational" to start with.

That's the whole idea of this board. Opinions can be written. They obviously can be disagreed with. Wouldn't shock me at all if they beat an average USC team next week. They've been game-planning for that game for a while... I expect them to play well, and they will win gameS the rest of the season... but just believe the ill-will created from a loss vs. an average 1-AA team can't be erased.
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I didn't get a chance to see the USC game, how did Barkley play? Last season he really didn't impress based on all the hype he received. I thought Mitch Mustain was better.
 

lakesgopher said:
there isnt any evidence showing these kids havent been coached up so to speculate on things you have no clue whether true or not is pretty weak! im willing to bet all these kids are much better football players from when they stepped onto campus to now...just sayin!
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So if they have been coached up, does that mean Brewster can't recruit?
 

Barkley is doing well. He played kind of sloppy and out of sync in the second half of the Virginia game. The other 6 quarters he has been an air assault.
 

Definitely warranted the rant. Well done, Doogie.

I do disagree with you on that a win next week or a combination of wins won't erase the loss to USD.. Maybe not in the books, but in our minds it certainly would.

I'll tell you want, if the Gophers beat an 'average' USC next Saturday.. I think it'll be safe to say that this past Saturday was more of a mirage than anything else.
 

Hindsight is 20/20 said:
Sportsfan24 said:
I must not be clear in getting my point across. I will try again. Losing to South Dakota should never be exceptable. Regardless of injuries, bounces of the ball or weather. However, losing to SD only counts as one loss on our record and we still have 10 more games to define what kind of season we will have.

The media should be very critical of the gophers for losing this game. However, ANYONE that says the season has been defined and determined by that ONE loss and nothing that happens over the next 10 weeks will matter is at best being unrational.[/QUOTE]
Wow, that's verbatim from the chief! Good soldier!
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Oh screw you (lol). How about this...we will take it one game at a time...the names on the back of the jersey don't matter, what matters is the name on the front of the jersey...there is nothing to fear but fear itself.:D
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