Doogie: I keep hearing how good Perra looks in practice

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dboy said:
if CS goes down on Sat.. AND my boy Perra does not make the trip... then Cobb in the wildcat is a better option than either Roden/Rhoda.
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Stop back pedaling, dboy. You made a prediction, you were wrong...

OH OH! I just thought of something... Is dboy really Doogie in disguise?
 

Jeshurun said:
But the one on the right has the hair and doesn't look as constipated. How can you say better dresser when he isn't wearing maroon or gold?
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It's my super secret way of saying I don't like the gold jerseys. Especially those ugly collars.

Let's keep it between you and me though.
 




Doc and 19 at the dance with each other. I can see it now.

And I don't like it.
 


Jeshurun said:
But the one on the right has the hair and doesn't look as constipated. How can you say better dresser when he isn't wearing maroon or gold?
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Plus, we all know based on the still picture of the guy on the left that his throwing motion is completely screwed up
 

zman said:
Doc and 19 at the dance with each other. I can see it now.

And I don't like it.
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19 and I used to hustle the gals while we each had a big russet potato in our pants. I carried mine in front, 19 carried his in back. :cool02::cool02::cool02:
 



I think it's important to note what everyone has been screaming. . .Doogie does NOT have sources. If anyone remembers the Hoiberg stuff during the Bball coaching search, I almost started to feel bad for Doogie.

As to the substance, we're in kind of a pickle. I have only been to one practice this year, so a lot of this is based off of HS stuff, but I'd be SHOCKED if Perra wasn't a significantly better passer than Leidner, Streveler, or Rhoda (I don't know enough about DRM to say anything about his ability). If injuries continue to mount and our passing game doesn't improve, I don't think it is outside the realm of possibility that Perra plays this year.
 

Bob, nothing is outside the realm of possibility. :cool02:
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
I think it's important to note what everyone has been screaming. . .Doogie does NOT have sources. If anyone remembers the Hoiberg stuff during the Bball coaching search, I almost started to feel bad for Doogie.

As to the substance, we're in kind of a pickle. I have only been to one practice this year, so a lot of this is based off of HS stuff, but I'd be SHOCKED if Perra wasn't a significantly better passer than Leidner, Streveler, or Rhoda (I don't know enough about DRM to say anything about his ability). If injuries continue to mount and our passing game doesn't improve, I don't think it is outside the realm of possibility that Perra plays this year.
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dpod and don were just owned.
 






I have actually heard from someone who works in the program that Perra is clearly the best passer of the three. I heard from that same person he is the worst runner.

If that's true I guess it depends on how much the staff wants to throw.
 

Some guy said:
I have actually heard from someone who works in the program that Perra is clearly the best passer of the three. I heard from that same person he is the worst runner.

If that's true I guess it depends on how much the staff wants to throw.
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zman was just owned...
 

Some guy said:
I have actually heard from someone who works in the program that Perra is clearly the best passer of the three. I heard from that same person he is the worst runner.

If that's true I guess it depends on how much the staff wants to throw.
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I don't think Perra = Best Passer is in question.

The question is if Kill and the staff are flexible enough to overcome their own stubborness i.e. wanting a run-threat QB in the Jordan Lynch mode. Also if it's worth it to burn Perra's redshirt.
 


Bob_Loblaw said:
I think it's important to note what everyone has been screaming. . .Doogie does NOT have sources. If anyone remembers the Hoiberg stuff during the Bball coaching search, I almost started to feel bad for Doogie.

As to the substance, we're in kind of a pickle. I have only been to one practice this year, so a lot of this is based off of HS stuff, but I'd be SHOCKED if Perra wasn't a significantly better passer than Leidner, Streveler, or Rhoda (I don't know enough about DRM to say anything about his ability). If injuries continue to mount and our passing game doesn't improve, I don't think it is outside the realm of possibility that Perra plays this year.
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I would say any QB that has not faces a bigten rush is always better(tongue in cheek) seriously Perra can preform very good in Practice with a green shirt on but when the big boys are rushing in it all changes. Leidner was decent going against the 6A class teams.

Lets see next season when we can have another red shirt freshman get playing time.
 



BJN said:
I don't think Perra = Best Passer is in question.

The question is if Kill and the staff are flexible enough to overcome their own stubborness i.e. wanting a run-threat QB in the Jordan Lynch mode. Also if it's worth it to burn Perra's redshirt.
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The whole offense is predicated on a running qb. I don't like the offense.

How long have they been running this same offense?
 

BJN said:
I don't think Perra = Best Passer is in question.

The question is if Kill and the staff are flexible enough to overcome their own stubborness i.e. wanting a run-threat QB in the Jordan Lynch mode. Also if it's worth it to burn Perra's redshirt.
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then we are in a rebuilding year?
we have an honest shot at winning the west... why would we hold perra back?
#1 need right now is passing.... get the ball to the playmakers... kjmaye had 'the best camp of anyone' according to kill.. yet CS has more touches????
 

dboy said:
then we are in a rebuilding year?
we have an honest shot at winning the west... why would we hold perra back?
#1 need right now is passing.... get the ball to the playmakers... kjmaye had 'the best camp of anyone' according to kill.. yet CS has more touches????
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Shut up, you crawled back into your hole.
 

Folks do realize there is more to being a QB than being accurate on passes in practice, right? dbag may not, but others do, right???
 

Perra is the best passer from what I've seen.

Best passer does not equal best quarterback.

It will be VERY interesting who plays QB next year with Perra having another year under his belt to learn and get stronger.
 

DoubleB said:
I would say any QB that has not faces a bigten rush is always better(tongue in cheek) seriously Perra can preform very good in Practice with a green shirt on but when the big boys are rushing in it all changes. Leidner was decent going against the 6A class teams.

Lets see next season when we can have another red shirt freshman get playing time.
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This. Pretty spirals aren't effective from the prone position.
 


I am always amazed and disappointed when people say that practice passing is not predictive of game day passing. Here is why. Practice passing IS correlated well to good game passing management. If you do better than your peers in practice, then it is fair to say those with less practice passing management do not have some extra game chromosome or ability that lets them pass by the better practice QB. I would bet that what happens is coaches have preferred players and give them more attention and advice, and grant them status in front of the quarterback's peers. The anointment process then takes precedence over ability. It works well for the anointed player because of the extra coaching attention and player acclimation. And, when the better practice QB goes into the game, they have not practiced the routines with the 1st team players and have less rapport with them. The 1st team trusts the anointment process and views the backup as less than capable even though they have seen the ability. This produces a secondary affect which I will label as disassociation. The 1st team becomes conflicted in how to respond to the new player. They need to quickly come to terms with the disassociation and realize by association the capabilities of the best practice qb.

Coaches, even very good coaches assign irrational values to players way too often. Often, it is cloaked in terms like "chemistry", that affable ability to execute a play. Well, if a player demonstrates execution in practice and it is highly correlated to success in games, then what goes wrong with chemistry when these guys suffer on the field? The difference is in the assigned pecking order and the faith by the players in allowing that player to succeed. Will blocking be just as crisp. Will routes be run just as precisely. Will there be that intimate coordination between the passer and the receiver?

If Perra is a better pure passer, then give the kid a chance. At the very least, play selection will change how the defense calls their game limits their ability predict the next play.

I don't know if Perra is better or not. I just think it stinks when idiots project the idea that performance won't equate to performance, because that is about the lowest form of crass judgment that can be encountered. In the sports world, that crass judgment is so socially ingrained it is a culturally accepted norm.

If Perra or anybody else has the total package of being a better practice QB, he needs to be in the game without question.
 

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