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USAFChief said:
By the way, please share with us how you know the drug accusation(s) are "fact." Settle the debate, please.
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I'm not going to give up my sources. Flashing their identity on a message board and throwing them under the bus wouldn't be respectful. And frankly, I want to to continue to be in "the know." You can choose to believe the truth, or continue to lie to yourself.
 

lakesgopher said:
your a dbag and your wrong! your making sh*t up and you sound like a a**hole! devoe was recruited because of his abilities and his style of play. good coaches get the most out of their talent, they don't change the player! also devoe had a nice shooting percentage for all of his out of control shots.

just quit making things up
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I never said Tubby was trying to change Devoe. Tubby has little time for someone who plays suspect defense and wanted to be the star in the DevoeShow.

Devoe did shoot a pretty solid percentage over his career. And, however juvenile, I'm fine with being a dbag, and even an a**hole. You're entitled to your opinion. But just so we're clear: I'm not making things up.
 

If I know, I'm sure Doogie or Myron know it was twice on the pot thing. Care to comment gentlemen?
 


Dirk Diggler said:
If I know, I'm sure Doogie or Myron know it was twice on the pot thing. Care to comment gentlemen?
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The players know (and most didn't/don't care that he was smoking tree).

Many students know.

Myron knows.

Marcus knows.

Anyone with any kind of connection to the program knows.

The only people who don't know, and won't accept it as fact, are Quitter apologists like Chief, lakes, and geegee who continually demand to see the actual test results that got the little Quitter suspended. There was more coming, as well. Apparently missing 20% of his junior season wasn't enough for the Quitter to get his mind right.
 

fryguy22 said:
Is there a source behind this? Not saying you're lying, I just have never seen it before. Easily could have missed it
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From the Oregon site:

“I talked with Tubby Smith a couple of times about him coming and joining our team and Tubby thought it was a good move for both Devoe and our program,” Altman said. “I’ve known Tubby for a long time. I think it’s going to be a win-win. We need some help, some leadership. We’ve got a good freshman class coming in and we’re excited that he’s joined our team. ...

“(Smith) recommended very strongly that we take him. I think it worked out for both of us.”

Now who strongly recommends a pothead to another coach?
 

minngg said:
From the Oregon site:

“I talked with Tubby Smith a couple of times about him coming and joining our team and Tubby thought it was a good move for both Devoe and our program,” Altman said. “I’ve known Tubby for a long time. I think it’s going to be a win-win. We need some help, some leadership. We’ve got a good freshman class coming in and we’re excited that he’s joined our team. ...

“(Smith) recommended very strongly that we take him. I think it worked out for both of us.”

Now who strongly recommends a pothead to another coach?
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Maybe someone who, after dealing/trying to work with this pothead for months, wants the pothead to go away?
 

GoGoGophers said:
The players know (and most didn't/don't care that he was smoking tree).

Many students know.

Myron knows.

Marcus knows.

Anyone with any kind of connection to the program knows.

The only people who don't know, and won't accept it as fact, are Quitter apologists like Chief, lakes, and geegee who continually demand to see the actual test results that got the little Quitter suspended. There was more coming, as well. Apparently missing 20% of his junior season wasn't enough for the Quitter to get his mind right.
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Really? Why hasn't it been reported then? You don't know jack buddy. If you did you would tell us how you know. Everybody knows? BfreakinS. So to solidify your BS argument you call others that question you names? Real mature there buddy. Real manly. You act like Devoe is your ex-wife. Iti s personal because he left the program. Get over it. If you have accusations, have some proof rather than using the age old, "everybody knows" trick.
 



tikited said:
Maybe someone who, after dealing/trying to work with this pothead for months, wants the pothead to go away?
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Yeah right...so he hands him off to a good friend and fellow coach. He also tried to convince the kid to stay here. Yeah, nice logic.
 



Goph4phan said:
I never said Tubby was trying to change Devoe. Tubby has little time for someone who plays suspect defense and wanted to be the star in the DevoeShow.

Devoe did shoot a pretty solid percentage over his career. And, however juvenile, I'm fine with being a dbag, and even an a**hole. You're entitled to your opinion. But just so we're clear: I'm not making things up.
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my brother is a strength coach at the u of mn. he is very close to the program, he has verified with players and coaches there was not a 2nd suspension for team violations! also, if your going to trash a kid for smoking pot and look down on him for doing so, stop watching college and professional athletics. do you want my brothers number @ the u of mn? unless you give me a name or how your source is more reliable than mine, I'm going to believe you have an agenda to trash devoe.

and for the clown that is the spell check police-life must have been tough living in a locker! this is a msg board(oops I spelled message wrong) no one cares if anyone forgets the "e" in "you're" or other forms of punctuation
 



my brother isn't the basketball teams strength coach but does work with them he works with a couple other sports however. just so we are clear and I'm told I'm wrong and they are right because they spoke to a girl who dated a friend of a guy who knows devoe from a class they took together when they were freshmen
 

lakesgopher said:
and for the clown that is the spell check police-life must have been tough living in a locker!
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It's sort of ironic that you are calling me a clown, isn't it? And actually, I grew up in a very nice suburban home.

lakesgopher said:
this is a msg board(oops I spelled message wrong) no one cares if anyone forgets the "e" in "you're" or other forms of punctuation
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That's fine. But you're wrong about that. But if you're fine looking like an idiot; to each his own.

Can I have your brother's name and phone number? (It was your suggestion, right?) I'd like to verify your source.
 

GopherJake said:
It's sort of ironic that you are calling me a clown, isn't it? And actually, I grew up in a very nice suburban home.



That's fine. But you're wrong about that. But if you're fine looking like an idiot; to each his own.

Can I have your brother's name and phone number? (It was your suggestion, right?) I'd like to verify your source.
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You won't get it. Just trust them. Unlike you who will identify your source, they won't
 

lakesgopher said:
my brother is a strength coach at the u of mn. he is very close to the program, he has verified with players and coaches there was not a 2nd suspension for team violations! also, if your going to trash a kid for smoking pot and look down on him for doing so, stop watching college and professional athletics. do you want my brothers number @ the u of mn? unless you give me a name or how your source is more reliable than mine, I'm going to believe you have an agenda to trash devoe.

and for the clown that is the spell check police-life must have been tough living in a locker! this is a msg board(oops I spelled message wrong) no one cares if anyone forgets the "e" in "you're" or other forms of punctuation
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If I remember correctly, Tubby stated that Devoe was suspended(for the second time this season) for skipping practice after the MSU(?) game. Supposedly he had made up his mind to transfer/so why go to practice.

I have no reason to doubt this, so I assume it is correct that his suspension was for 'skipping practice'.

The question I would have is; if he had not decided to quit and transfer, is there a possibility other reasons for a suspension were about to follow. I have no info myself and am just asking.

Don't mean to get into the 'back and forth' discussion.
 

lakesgopher said:
my brother isn't the basketball teams strength coach but does work with them he works with a couple other sports however. just so we are clear and I'm told I'm wrong and they are right because they spoke to a girl who dated a friend of a guy who knows devoe from a class they took together when they were freshmen
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I love run on sentences that tell me nothing. "banghead"
 

Dr.Don said:
I love run on sentences that tell me nothing. "banghead"
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dr don beer is good nobody beer is good cares about run on sentences or koherint righting so that someone beer is good can desifer what drivel it is you are saying this is a msg bored if you want to right a dessert-ation go get beer is good you're phd this is a basketball bored where any idiot can post garbage beer is good beer is good what is a run on sentence anyway beer is good still waiting for brothers name and phone number from lakesgopher beer is good
 

Generally speaking, you can always tell when someone has admitted defeat in an internet war. They resort to spelling and/or grammar as a substitute for intelligent input.
 


USAFChief said:
Generally speaking, you can always tell when someone has admitted defeat in an internet war. They resort to spelling and/or grammar as a substitute for intelligent input.
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That was my first post in the thread, USDA Chef (Copyright 'Fan of Ray Williams'), so I'm not sure to what I'd be admitting defeat. I was simply urging 'lakes' to take just a bit more care in his posts so that people can read them without thinking he's a moron (based on the formatting and 4th grade spelling errors alone, that is).

But, like I said, if he wants to appear stupid, carry on.

Since we're on the topic, USDA Chef (Copyright 'Fan of Ray Williams'), would you care to answer my question: When the chips are down, do you urge you plebes to quit? Or by refusing to answer this simple question, are you admitting defeat?
 



minngg said:
From the Oregon site:

“I talked with Tubby Smith a couple of times about him coming and joining our team and Tubby thought it was a good move for both Devoe and our program,” Altman said. “I’ve known Tubby for a long time. I think it’s going to be a win-win. We need some help, some leadership. We’ve got a good freshman class coming in and we’re excited that he’s joined our team. ...

“(Smith) recommended very strongly that we take him. I think it worked out for both of us.”

Now who strongly recommends a pothead to another coach?
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Thanks for answering.
 

Still anxiously awaiting lakes' brother's contact information and an answer from USDA Chef to a simple question. C'mon boys; man up.
 

Not trying to say I know this for certain, but I did talk to a friend tonight that has a lot of inside information on the team and was told that it was a drug issue with Devoe.

(people need to stop asking for information on sources though, honestly who is going to say? If the person has no source, they won't say and if a person does have a source they won't say. We have established Gopher players and opposing players and media read this board, I am assuming Gopher coaches do too occasionally. Who would reveal a source that is giving not public information? If someone refusing to give up their source identity makes you disbelieve their story, that's just ridiculous. Just a little side note)

IMO, that is too bad that he had that problem (if true, and I now believe it to be after speaking with my friend). I hope that he learns from it and that the change of scenery does him well. I am disappointed he left and quit, no matter the reason, but I do wish him the best going forward and a successful basketball career in the future.
 

minngg said:
From the Oregon site:

“I talked with Tubby Smith a couple of times about him coming and joining our team and Tubby thought it was a good move for both Devoe and our program,” Altman said. “I’ve known Tubby for a long time. I think it’s going to be a win-win. We need some help, some leadership. We’ve got a good freshman class coming in and we’re excited that he’s joined our team. ...

“(Smith) recommended very strongly that we take him. I think it worked out for both of us.”

Now who strongly recommends a pothead to another coach?
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A coach who is trying to move a pothead, trouble-making distraction off his team. Happens all the time, just ask Fred "the Mayor" Hoiberg.
 

Drex96 said:
A coach who is trying to move a pothead, trouble-making distraction off his team. Happens all the time, just ask Fred "the Mayor" Hoiberg.
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I don't think Tubby recommended Devoe to get rid of him. Even though they had their disagreements, Tubby is a high-class guy and will do what is best for his coaching peers and players. I believe Tubby felt Oregon would be a good fit for Devoe and help him to learn from mistakes.
 

scher215 said:
I don't think Tubby recommended Devoe to get rid of him. Even though they had their disagreements, Tubby is a high-class guy and will do what is best for his coaching peers and players. I believe Tubby felt Oregon would be a good fit for Devoe and help him to learn from mistakes.
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We agree on this: Devoe failed some "tests" and hope learns from his mistakes. The rest we'll just have to agree to disagree.
 

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