DeRusha: Fleck at Fundraiser

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DarthGopher said:
I see a series of Progressive commercials in the future where coaches show up to fan's places of work to watch them, yell at them and tell them how to do their jobs better - having limited to no subject matter expertise other than having used a computer at some point in their lives.
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The norm in some sectors of corporate leadership
 

Some guy said:
Also parents at a d3 game and a 10th grade game are also critical of coaches and play calling

If you don’t want to be criticized the only option is to not coach
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Mix in baseline level of idiocy, add in parental tailgating and in-game mixers and the level of yelling, screaming is absolutely ridiculous in some cases. Embarrassing for the kids, probably. Gently suggesting “hey, that’‘s not helpful tone it down” is met with glares, silence, or continued idiocy. It’s a free country.
 

College Football Team Win Trends - All Games, Big Ten Conference, Since 2019​

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Ohio State42-6-087.5%24.7+3.8
Michigan36-11-076.6%15.0+2.2
Iowa34-14-070.8%8.2+3.5
Minnesota32-14-069.6%9.2+2.3
Penn State33-15-068.8%12.6+2.6
Wisconsin30-17-063.8%10.50.0
Michigan St25-20-055.6%-1.6-2.1
Purdue23-22-051.1%0.1-0.5
Maryland20-23-046.5%-2.5-0.6
Illinois21-25-045.7%0.4+4.3
Indiana20-25-044.4%-3.4-1.5
Nebraska15-29-034.1%-1.0-1.9
Northwestern14-31-031.1%-7.4-2.8
Rutgers14-32-030.4%-11.9-1.9


Fleck does a great job involving himself in the community. He puts up with a lot of criticism over coaching decisions - some of which is deserved as it is for any coach. It just goes with the territory. That said, no coach in the process of donating his time and efforts helping to raise funds for worthy causes deserves to be confronted about coaching decisions - totally inappropriate. The above chart which was attached to a different thread here speaks for itself. Mediocrity? I think not....
 

DarthGopher said:
I see a series of Progressive commercials in the future where coaches show up to fan's places of work to watch them, yell at them and tell them how to do their jobs better - having limited to no subject matter expertise other than having used a computer at some point in their lives.
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Wasn't that like a Peyton Manning commercial a few years back.
 


Some guy said:
Also parents at a d3 game and a 10th grade game are also critical of coaches and play calling

If you don’t want to be criticized the only option is to not coach
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My best friend growing up was our goalie for hockey HS. Some parents would reflexively criticize his play with his mom sitting right there in the stands with them.
 

kg21 said:
Did anyone tell him to not be one of the least throwing teams in D1?

If so, I would like to shake that fans hand at the fundraiser.
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Shocking.
 

DarrenTheGreek said:
I told him to score more touchdowns. You're welcome, Gopher Nation
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They need to hire this guy:

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I mean his genius playcalling lead the L'il Giants to the massive upset over the Cowboys! In fact hire the coach too!
 






So, I listened to DeRusha's program.

what he actually said was this: "one or maybe two people went up to Fleck and said he needed to do a better job of time management and using his time outs."

So, it was one or maybe two people. and they said something that a large segment of Gopher fans - and the media - agree with.

Look, you can argue that it's bad form to criticize someone at a fundraiser. But, my question is the tone in which these 'complaints' were presented. Were these people yelling and screaming - or was it presented in more of a humorous tone? that makes a big difference.

Fleck is a public figure. he's going to take some heat.

this situation sounds fairly mild to me.
 

short ornery norwegian said:
So, I listened to DeRusha's program.

what he actually said was this: "one or maybe two people went up to Fleck and said he needed to do a better job of time management and using his time outs."

So, it was one or maybe two people. and they said something that a large segment of Gopher fans - and the media - agree with.

Look, you can argue that it's bad form to criticize someone at a fundraiser. But, my question is the tone in which these 'complaints' were presented. Were these people yelling and screaming - or was it presented in more of a humorous tone? that makes a big difference.

Fleck is a public figure. he's going to take some heat.

this situation sounds fairly mild to me.
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100% Know the situation. Fleck was probably the least bothered by it.
 

short ornery norwegian said:
So, I listened to DeRusha's program.

what he actually said was this: "one or maybe two people went up to Fleck and said he needed to do a better job of time management and using his time outs."

So, it was one or maybe two people. and they said something that a large segment of Gopher fans - and the media - agree with.

Look, you can argue that it's bad form to criticize someone at a fundraiser. But, my question is the tone in which these 'complaints' were presented. Were these people yelling and screaming - or was it presented in more of a humorous tone? that makes a big difference.

Fleck is a public figure. he's going to take some heat.

this situation sounds fairly mild to me.
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I don’t think any or many people thought the tweet indicated a tragic incident either…
 

short ornery norwegian said:
So, I listened to DeRusha's program.

what he actually said was this: "one or maybe two people went up to Fleck and said he needed to do a better job of time management and using his time outs."

So, it was one or maybe two people. and they said something that a large segment of Gopher fans - and the media - agree with.

Look, you can argue that it's bad form to criticize someone at a fundraiser. But, my question is the tone in which these 'complaints' were presented. Were these people yelling and screaming - or was it presented in more of a humorous tone? that makes a big difference.

Fleck is a public figure. he's going to take some heat.

this situation sounds fairly mild to me.
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Lol
 

short ornery norwegian said:
Fleck is a public figure. he's going to take some heat.

this situation sounds fairly mild to me.
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For sure Fleck can take some heat. He makes millions of dollars. I just think it's in poor taste to rag on a guy when he's out trying to raise money for some charity. There's a time and place for everything.
 

I must be the only person in Gopher land not bothered by Fleck's use of timeouts. Early in the Georgia/TCU game before the score got out of hand, there was a play where GA scored a TD on a hurry-up play while the TCU defense was nowhere near ready. I thought to myself "PJ would have called a timeout".
 

Panthadad2 said:
I must be the only person in Gopher land not bothered by Fleck's use of timeouts. Early in the Georgia/TCU game before the score got out of hand, there was a play where GA scored a TD on a hurry-up play while the TCU defense was nowhere near ready. I thought to myself "PJ would have called a timeout".
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The examples are things like on a change of posession where the should be no real reason to run out of time, coming out of a TV break, or burning a couple in the first quarter while on offense. All have happened more than once with Fleck.
 

PMWinSTP said:
The examples are things like on a change of posession where the should be no real reason to run out of time, coming out of a TV break, or burning a couple in the first quarter while on offense. All have happened more than once with Fleck.
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All mostly to due to having wrong personnel, a wrong play, misunderstood play, bad alignment, time running out, etc. Those things happen in the course of a game. I suppose other coaches prefer to let the play blowup or take the penalty instead of calling a timeout. I prefer the former.
 

Panthadad2 said:
All mostly to due to having wrong personnel, a wrong play, misunderstood play, bad alignment, time running out, etc. Those things happen in the course of a game. I suppose other coaches prefer to let the play blowup or take the penalty instead of calling a timeout. I prefer the former.
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Things that should not happen when given the extra time, like coming off a commercial break on offense. Those are the head sctratching one's people talk about.
 

Always thought it was wierd how slow the team and coaches operate on game day given the frenetic practice pace.
 

UpAndUnder43 said:
I don’t think PJ minds criticism but him attending a fundraiser might be good for that charity/group. Him being approached and annoyed could lead to him doing less public events. Criticize all you want but leave him alone in public. That’s my stance.
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Going to bet that Fleck (like most coaches) had developed the ability to listen and nod and then immediately discard whatever BS was being flung his direction. Just goes with the territory.

We have entered a phase as a fanbase where now we complain about how we win instead of the lack of winning.....so progress.
 

TNGophfan said:
Wasn't that like a Peyton Manning commercial a few years back.
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You were probably thinking of the Favre video that was posted.....but Peyton had this classic SNL bit that is kind of related.

 

DarthGopher said:
I see a series of Progressive commercials in the future where coaches show up to fan's places of work to watch them, yell at them and tell them how to do their jobs better - having limited to no subject matter expertise other than having used a computer at some point in their lives.
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When Seinfeld went to heckle the heckler at her office.
 

PMWinSTP said:
Things that should not happen when given the extra time, like coming off a commercial break on offense. Those are the head sctratching one's people talk about.
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Stuff like that shouldn't happen especially with a veteran squad. I would love to hear an explanation some time.
 



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