Dave Revsine: "It's inexplicable that Wisconsin is not in the BCS top 25"

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Cayman said:
Going by the Michigan/Michigan State BCS bid scenario, it's basically saying that the team that wasn't even good enough to go to the conference title game is better than the team that lost it, not to mention the Spartans beat the Wolverines head to head. Is the team that loses the Super Bowl then considered worse than the team they beat in the conference title game? Not a perfect analogy I know.

I just think it's kind of dumb that winning your division, which should prove that you are better than all the other teams in your division, but losing in the conference title game knocks essentially knocks you down a peg in your own division. Winning the division seems like it should be absolutely better than not winning it, but as it stands, you're probably in a better spot for bowl selection by finishing 2nd in your division than by winning your division and losing the conference championship game.

Long story short, there is a scenario where finishing second in your division is advantageous to finishing first, which doesn't seem right.



On the "Is this a signature win?" thread, most responses seemed to be "not even close," so I don't think there are very many posters saying that beating an unranked Northwestern team is something to hang your hat on, and more a sign that Northwestern is either overrated or lacking depth.

They don't make their Big Ten schedule, but that doesn't mean it's not relatively easy. They dodge Michigan, Michigan State, and Nebraska, arguably the three best teams in the Legends right now, and they haven't played BYU yet. The Badgers are 5-2 right now, and I think the Gophers probably would be too if they played the same schedule, or at least 4-3.
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Similar happened the year Alabama played LSU for the National Championship. Alabama didn't win their division so didn't play in conference championship game but played in national championship game. A little different as they were obviously a good team.
 

MPLSBucky said:
So Minnesota is a leather helmet school, huh? It's too bad they're made of plastic, padding, metal, and polycarbonate these days.
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A helmet is a helmet in any way or form. Either way, you haven't won dick to earn one
 


Cayman said:
I just think it's kind of dumb that winning your division, which should prove that you are better than all the other teams in your division, but losing in the conference title game knocks essentially knocks you down a peg in your own division. Winning the division seems like it should be absolutely better than not winning it, but as it stands, you're probably in a better spot for bowl selection by finishing 2nd in your division than by winning your division and losing the conference championship game.

Long story short, there is a scenario where finishing second in your division is advantageous to finishing first, which doesn't seem right.
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See 2002 Arkansas Team. SEC West Co-Champs with LSU and Auburn at 5-3 (6-2 Bama was ineligible).

They lose SEC Title Game and Gophers meet them in Music City Bowl. They beat both Auburn and LSU head to head that year.
Auburn goes to Capital One and LSU to Cotton, I believe.
 

One other thing to note regarding Wisconsin....they should be 6-1. Remember, the officiating fiasco at ASU (which the PAC12 admitted was a mistake) cost them a win in that game. I know it isn't a win and the official record is 5-2, but Wisconsin is a good club, probably the 2nd best team in the Big Ten and probably deserves to be in the BCS Top 25. However, the fact they aren't in the BCS Top 25 isn't "inexplicable" as Revsine said, so I agree with SS here specific to that comment.
 



MPLSBucky said:
I guess every helmet school goes through a rough half century.
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I hurts when you mock us because our national championships are a long time ago. It makes me very jealous of all of the national championships you have won since our most recent title.
 


ruppertflywheel said:
I deal in facts, not conjecture. You have NO National Championships. It is an absolute joke discussing
whether Becky should be ranked in the top 25. You can stay on Beckyville and cry about it.
Take a hike pal.
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<br> Your perception does not equal reality, Ruppert. Your posts tend to be WILDLY speculative ---so much so, that posters are requesting your return to Buckyville to provide a source of comic relief. Anyway, there really isn't a surprise as to how you feel about Wisconsin and their Top 25 ranking. You've always been pretty consistent with what you spew out.
 



RailBaronYarr said:
I'm actually rooting for Northwestern to beat Iowa, since NW is out of the Legend's race already with 3 losses and one to us (at least H2H with Gophers), and then Iowa to beat Wisconsin to keep them from reaching the BTCG if for some reason OSU falters 2x. Also to keep Wisconsin from a potential at-large bid (which is possible if they finish 10-2 with Michigan losing to OSU, potentially twice).

I know, different topic, but the Gophers do have a chance yet this year if they win out:

- Michigan would need 3 total losses for us to pass them (counting on OSU and potentially one other, hopefully MSU).
- MSU and Nebraska would each need one loss from us and another from some other team. Michigan beats Nebraska, Nebraska/Northwestern beats MSU.
- Someone beats Iowa once, preferably Northwestern so Iowa can rain on Wisconsin's parade. It's likely that Michigan and/or Nebraska will also beat Iowa.

If that's the case, all we have to do is beat Nebraska, Indiana, Penn St, Wisconsin, and MSU to play OSU in the CG for a Rose Bowl berth. Totally reasonable.

Oh, and f%ck Wisconsin.
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Sorry about that. As you pointed out, it's NW/Iowa this week not Wis/Iowa. Agree with you, I want NW to beat Iowa.
 

The fact of the matter is that the Badgers deserve to be a top 25 team.

Continue sniping at each other. Sometimes fun to read. Mostly it isn't because the natives of the Badger state need to get more creative about their programs mythical superiority.

Things I will concede: polka music, ... I'm thinking... still nothing... wait for it... wtf... I got nothing.
 

tjgopher said:
One other thing to note regarding Wisconsin....they should be 6-1.
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No. They could be 6-1. There is nothing automatic about any kick. Just ask Michigan in their game against PSU this year. Since that ASU game, wisky has benched their kicker, and I think Borland is scheduled to attempt kicks over 45 yards.
 

Dean S said:
The fact of the matter is that the Badgers deserve to be a top 25 team.

Continue sniping at each other. Sometimes fun to read. Mostly it isn't because the natives of the Badger state need to get more creative about their programs mythical superiority.

Things I will concede: polka music, ... I'm thinking... still nothing... wait for it... wtf... I got nothing.
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They are pioneers and innovators in the art of fornicating with deceased wildlife.
 



NewBerlinBucky said:
<br> Your perception does not equal reality, Ruppert. Your posts tend to be WILDLY speculative ---so much so, that posters are requesting your return to Buckyville to provide a source of comic relief. Anyway, there really isn't a surprise as to how you feel about Wisconsin and their Top 25 ranking. You've always been pretty consistent with what you spew out.
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" WILDLY speculative " You're right. I said Oregon State would upset you last year. They did.
I said Arizona State would beat you in the desert. They did. I've also stated you will never, ever win a National Championship playing road grater football. So far, I'm dead nuts on. You've the easiest conference schedule in the B1G. ( perception? No reality). Return to Beckyville after two years?
Laughable. Half your members would fit right in with the cast of " One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.
Your beloved site has made racist comments about Gopher coaches, players, and fan base ( cue up Myles Long ) You've some degenerates ( cue up danofiveo ) who is one step from Flacky Acres and is actually a threat to society. The biggest mistake I made as a Internet fan was going on your board.
All I gained was a greater dislike for the Becky fan base. Period, end of story.
 

ruppertflywheel said:
" WILDLY speculative " You're right. I said Oregon State would upset you last year. They did.
I said Arizona State would beat you in the desert. They did. I've also stated you will never, ever win a National Championship playing road grater football. So far, I'm dead nuts on. You've the easiest conference schedule in the B1G. ( perception? No reality). Return to Beckyville after two years?
Laughable. Half your members would fit right in with the cast of " One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.
Your beloved site has made racist comments about Gopher coaches, players, and fan base ( cue up Myles Long ) You've some degenerates ( cue up danofiveo ) who is one step from Flacky Acres and is actually a threat to society. The biggest mistake I made as a Internet fan was going on your board.
All I gained was a greater dislike for the Becky fan base. Period, end of story.
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OK. I sense you don't like the posters over there. I just want to let you know that I'm happy you found a community that's accepting of you; a place where you can call home. Every family has a crazy Uncle, and you can provide that contribution to GopherHole.
 



Unregistered User said:
No. They could be 6-1. There is nothing automatic about any kick. Just ask Michigan in their game against PSU this year. Since that ASU game, wisky has benched their kicker, and I think Borland is scheduled to attempt kicks over 45 yards.
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Yeah, even if the refs don't mess it up, it is no where near a certain win with their kickers this year. They're only 2 of 5 on field goals 30-39 yards.
 







Serial Killers, Cannibals, and people "enamored" with dead deer make up too large of a percentage of the Dairyland population, making it hard to take seriously what they say.
 

http://www.amazon.com/Murder-Shocking-Wisconsins-Notorious-Killers/dp/1931599963

Here's a book devoted to Wisconsin's serial killers

Here's the short paragraph description of the book:
"Ah, Wisconsin . . . land of beer, cows, and the Green Bay Packers. And also the home of Ed Gein, Jeffery Dahmer, and a host of other bloodthirsty maniacs. Got Murder? goes behind the bucolic Dairy State image to reveal shocking acts of mayhem in the dark corners of Wisconsin history, and asks the troubling question: Is it something in the cheese?"
 

Mase said:
Wrong. http://www.twincities.com/ci_21758995

Did someone get your goat?
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This article is not germane to beastiality shots because the dude that did this was not from here, an illegal, and not a native like many of the Story's that come out about dead deer carcasses from good ole Buckyland. Dave Revsine is a Badger mark so who cares if he thinks they are a top 25 team. Presently they are not end of story.
 

Ok, which top 25 team doesn't deserve to be there to allow Wisconsin with a 5-2 record to be included?
 


I saw a priceless picture of Ed Gein wearing a cheese head. Of course it wasn't real but it pretty well sums up the whole state.



Go Gophers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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