CBS' Tim Brando goes on Twitter rant ripping Gophers

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Brando is right. Teague botched those whole situation. If he doesn't hire Flip or equivalent, he should be canned. I know not everyone believes this, but that's my 2 cents.

Right now, we don't know that he doesn't have a coach lined up that is still playing. I just can't believe that he would let Tubby go that quickly, even though he needed to go, unless he felt that he had a candidate lined and ready to deliver. Could he have thought that he had Shaka lined up, sure, but Shaka has done the same routine now at least a couple of times. Norwood had to have had a backup plan in place just in case.

That being said, I can't imagine Stevens, Peterson, or Hoiberg coming here, and I would much rather have Flip than Grant. If it goes into next week and nothing is announced, Norwood had better be pleading with Flip to take the job.
 

What exactly do people disagree with so much in that? I don't see what was so inaccurate. I think Tubby underachieved, but unless we actually hire a significantly better coach, I would've rather kept him until we at least started building that damn practice facility.

You couldn't raise the funds for the practice facility while he was here; apathetic boosters
 

I don't know what alternate universe we are in right now but I agree with dpo.

It's easy to s*** all over Tubby now but it's not like he was a bad coach, more than anything he was the wrong guy for Minnesota right now. Everyone agrees he should've gotten more out of this year's team but you can't go after the guy for having the best* (non-vacated) season the program has had in awhile. He's over the hill as far as his coaching ability is concerned and Teague made the right call to presumably bring in someone who is younger and hungrier.

Tubby fell into our laps last time, and he left the program in a better place then when he got here. Take a second to appreciate that and then re-evaluate where the program is.

Tubby got the program in a better place in the first 2 years that he was here and totally stagnated due to lack of effort and/or energy after that
 

westcoastgopher11;690251you can't go after the guy for having the best* (non-vacated) season the program has had in awhile.[/QUOTE said:
For the record, the best post-Clem season was '04-'05 under Monson where we tied for 4th in the Big Ten with a 10-6 record and 21-11 overall.

Did we go one game farther in the NCAA this year? Yes. But I don't measure the overall success of a season based on whether or not we made it to the NCAA second round rather than the first round. We finished 8-10 in the Big Ten in a 3-way tie for 7th. That is not the best season the program has had in a while...
 

Well said, and if the next coach gets us to a higher level I would go as far as to say that it happens because of Tubby's six years here. I wouldn't want to be recruiting the team six years ago vs today with due thanks to Tubby's work. He did Minnesota a great deed joining Minnesota when he did.

Not sure what you mean by the good deed sugary nonsense; he left dodge (Kentucky) before he got relieved of his responsibilities. Viewed this as a job where he could rest on his laurels and never get fired
 



Doogie said around 6:30 on 1500 that he felt Teague and Ellis pretty much made up their mind months ago that Tubby had to go, at least by Feb, maybe shortly after they got here. Mentions some meeting with donors at J D Hoyt's quite awhile back.

Doogie just making s-h-i-t-e up as usual; he has no inside knowledge
 

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Brando is right. Teague botched those whole situation. If he doesn't hire Flip or equivalent, he should be canned. I know not everyone believes this, but that's my 2 cents.

LOL; this hasn't even began to play out and peoole want to fire Teague. Let's settle for Minnesota mediocrity!!
 

That... and Maturi. I'm just not convinced firing Tubby will spark the building process unless we hire a very promising coach, and the longer this goes on, the less likely that seems.

You couldn't raise the funds for the practice facility while he was here; apathetic boosters
 



Fair enough. Unfortunately Twitter seems to make all public figures seem far less professional. I'm also annoyed with these college bball "experts" who probably know very little about the program but offer extremely harsh opinions. I'm not sure Tubby is as much of a class act as they all seem to think just because he hasn't committed NCAA violations.

I don't disagree with what he's saying, I disagree with him saying it. He's a play-by-play guy, not an analyst. And he seems to be taking this very personally from some reason that baffles me. The guy is going on these rants based on watching the Gophers play twice in a weekend, he's probably seen them play 5 times total during Tubby's tenure.
 

While not everything dpo said is technically a fact, that doesn't mean they weren't all true statements or at least arguably true. Hard to really dispute the accuracy of what Brando said for the most part. Seriously, all these people complaining about dpo's post, which statements that he highlighted do you disagree so strongly with? There are a few that are debatable, but it's not like anything in there was extremely questionable.
 


National media acting like they know everything about the University of MN basketball program is like me commenting about anything soccer related.

Seriously, it's so stupid. No one knows what went on behind the scenes. No mention of all the transfers. Yes, everyone agrees the facilities are not good, but the team was more talented than what they showed this year.
 



Glad to see Brando trying to fire up his trolls by retweeting any Gopher comment. Guy tweets Brando hadn't watched them all year and he sends his tools into attack mode on them. Guy is worthless
 

Man, you would have thought the U of M banged his mom, wife and daughter all at the same time.

Brilliant. Very, very, very well-done.

And the sanctification of Saint Tubby continues, with Brando's underlying notion being that's the best we deserve, the mediocrity of Tubby's tenure while here.

I happen to disagree, and deeply so, and for $2.5M per, we surely did deserve a whole hell of a lot better than what we were given.

And they mentioned it again tonight during one of the games, the announcer aghast at the effrontery of Minnesota letting Tubby go, as if it were a crime for such a program as this to let such a good man and legend go, and again, like that's the best we deserve.

What these people fail to notice, as they were not watching, was Tubby's half-hearted nature during the vast majority his tenure here, and how it seemed so much of the time he were simply going through the motions, and how he would so infuriatingly throw up his arms in resignation and disgust when confronted with the continuing and continual problems of his team, such as the turnovers which killed us throughout the season, and how rather than taking ownership of that as a coaching issue which is entirely possible as well as reasonable to believe can be remedied, he gave up, threw up his arms, and blamed his players for every lack and flaw his team.

A good man? Sure. A Hall of Famer as a coach? Definitely, but we clearly did not get the best of Tubby, and rather received the dubious benefit of a coach winding down.

And RE: his continued beatification, the man has been at it a long, long time. He if anyone understands that major college basketball is a cold and cut-throat business, and it's not like he hasn't played that game himself, such as when he was sneaking behind UK's back, sniffing for jobs while still gainfully employed at Kentucky, once it was clear the wolves were at his back and they would not let go him there.

So Saint Tubby? My ass. A good man was once one hell of a basketball coach, yeah, for sure. But big whoop, it's all about what have you done for me lately, and unfortunately, he just didn't do sh*t while here, and it's difficult for me to forgive him wasting the talent he had on this team this year, and especially the ferocity the beast that was Mbakwe, a player who might come along once a generation, if lucky.

We should have been much, much, better, and if there is an epitaph to put upon the Tubby Smith regime, unfortunately, for me anyway, that would be it.
 

I'm going to tell you guys something. I don't bring this up much, because Minnesotans and Gopher fans HATE IT, its like the popular thing to do lately, BASH UMn grads. We like to bash our own.

And not everyone, but enough of us.

There are plenty of former Gophers out there in the coaching ranks and you don't hear me going on and on about ANY of them. Cept 2. Trestman and Saunders.

They are both INCREDIBLY intelligent and what you get from Minnesotans is one half saying, Yeah, lets hire Trestman to coach the Vikes or lets hire Trestman to coach the Gophers, and the other half HATE the idea, they blast him and say horrible things about him and talk him down and do anything they can to make him look bad.

Somehow the idea that a home grown, UMn grad is the WORST thing that could ever happen to the U has infected a lot of Minnesotans and Gopher fans minds, or at least when it comes to our Big 2 sports of cfb and cbb.



It hasn't been as bad with Flip. There is some of that. But not as much as with Trestman.


I think it all goes back to Salem/Stoll? They did not succeed as people expected at the U, and there has been an anti-UMn alum backlash ever since. At least in the Big 2 sports. And maybe even in hockey? Woog didn't win us a title so maybe there was some there, too? But I don't remember what the feelings were between him being our coach and the hiring of Lucia? Does anyone remember?



But honestly, the one thing that I can't shake when thinking about this coaching hire, and all of the negative crap being said about Minnesota as a state and as a University, is that what we really need right now, is a HOMEBOY to come in and save the day.

Are these other guys that are being talked about good coaches?! Sure, many of them are, or could be or will be. Is Flip? I believe so, and many others do as well.

But the biggest difference for me is that I don't want some outsider coming in and fixing us.

See, the outsiders look down on Minnesota. They are all ragging on us. The state sucks, the weather sucks, our AD sucks, our fans suck for having too high of standards, how dare we. Don't we know our place?!

I've been all over the internet the last 2 days reading people blasting us left and right. Blasting the state, blasting the University, blasting our AD, blasting Gopher fans, blasting our weather(as if its worse than Wisconsin or Michigan or Pennsylvania?).



So we brought in these VCU guys. Because our Midwestern guy Maturi screwed up. We, the University of Minnesota, we screwed up. Our situation sucks. So we brought in these outsiders to fix our situation. And they are going to bring in an outsider, to fix our basketball situation. Because we can't fix the situation on our own. Because Minnesotans are losers.



How much sweeter would future success be, if a new coach like FLIP, an alum, came in and got the whole state excited and donating money for a new practice facility and getting our LOCAL boys to stay and then that coach, and those LOCAL boy players go on to succeed in the Big Ten?

IYF to the rest of the nation.
 





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