BYU WR Kingston charged with 1st degree felony rape

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I'm usually a bit skeptical when an administration comes out quickly with an emphatic statement of no prior knowledge.
 


Bob_Loblaw said:
BYU has expelled prominent players for having consensual activities, I normally would agree with you, but they do not seem to play around with this stuff.
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For better or worse, they have a line in the sand. Gotta give em credit for being principled
 


You’d think that out of anyone, BYU players would know to keep it in their pants. Takes much much less than this to break their honor code and screw up your career.
 


ergopher said:
You’d think that out of anyone, BYU players would know to keep it in their pants. Takes much much less than this to break their honor code and screw up your career.
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I'd like to think everyone, everywhere would know first degree felony rape is wrong.
This has nothing to do with "keeping it in their pants." Nor breaking any BYU honor code.

Or, FFS, "screwing up his career."

It's felony first degree rape.

Sheesh
 




USAF said:
I'd like to think everyone, everywhere would know first degree felony rape is wrong.
This has nothing to do with "keeping it in their pants." Nor breaking any BYU honor code.

Or, FFS, "screwing up his career."

It's felony first degree rape.

Sheesh
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"Keeping it in your pants" is BYU's line in the sand, regardless of what any of us think.
 

ergopher said:
You’d think that out of anyone, BYU players would know to keep it in their pants. Takes much much less than this to break their honor code and screw up your career.
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I think history has shown that no matter what the trappings people are still people… and sometimes those trappings indicate quite the opposite….


I remember during the Baylor abuse scandal that their school “investigators” said they assumed they wouldn’t have much to do “because it’s a religious school”… 😬
 

A_Slab_of_Bacon said:
I think history has shown that no matter what the trappings people are still people… and sometimes those trappings indicate quite the opposite….


I remember during the Baylor abuse scandal that their school “investigators” said they assumed they wouldn’t have much to do “because it’s a religious school”… 😬
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USAF said:
I'd like to think everyone, everywhere would know first degree felony rape is wrong.
This has nothing to do with "keeping it in their pants." Nor breaking any BYU honor code.

Or, FFS, "screwing up his career."

It's felony first degree rape.

Sheesh
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Never said it wasn’t, I agree
 



ergopher said:
You’d think that out of anyone, BYU players would know to keep it in their pants. Takes much much less than this to break their honor code and screw up your career.
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Just to be clear.....this isn't an honor code issue, it is a criminal one. Very different then the Ratzlaff situation.

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BYU says star wide receiver charged with felony rape is no longer a student there

Brigham Young University says standout wide receiver Parker Kingston is no longer a student there after he was arrested this week on a first-degree felony rape charge. The 21-year-old Kingston made his initial court appearance Friday in St. George. Prosecutors say a woman who was 20 years old at...
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USAF said:
They have a line in the sand? First degree felony rape?

Sheesh
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That's not what he was referring to. He was referring to consistently holding their players to a standard. The post @mngg11 was referring to even had "consensual activities" in it.

Do you always try and misinterpret posts so you can bitch and complain? Cuz you're very good at it.
 

GopherTheJugular said:
That's not what he was referring to. He was referring to consistently holding their players to a standard. The post @mngg11 was referring to even had "consensual activities" in it.

Do you always try and misinterpret posts so you can bitch and complain? Cuz you're very good at it.
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I'd like to think this has nothing to do with consensual activities or lines in the proverbial sand. Why did Loblaw even bring it up?

Once again, just to be clear, the accusation is rape. Felony, first degree rape.
 


Bob_Loblaw said:
BYU has expelled prominent players for having consensual activities, I normally would agree with you, but they do not seem to play around with this stuff.
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BYU's isn't Bob Jones University, but they are strict on this stuff and we've seen colleges that would side with the athlete (cough, cough, Baylor) in instances like this one. Yes, this goes beyond BYU's code of conduct in addition to it now being in the criminal justice system.

I think what Bob was hitting at is BYU is probably the only university in the country with a code of conduct that is beyond innocence and guilt and they do not mess around and look for the middle ground or go with the "we'll let this work its way through the courts." Cross the line and you're gone.
 
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The Deliberate Stranger said:
Makes me wonder how Jim McMahon survived that place
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Considering the nature of their bizarrely personal code of conduct, I suspect it's very random.

I could see people living a live of drunk'n debauchery, but they do it around a core group who knows not to talk. Meanwhile some other guy invites the wrong person to the party and gets made an example of.

These kind of very personal life kinda rules I suspect are wildly unevenly enforced.

I'm sure plenty of students have coffee on campus ...

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It's not he said, she said.

This incident happened back in Feb 2025. They've been gathering evidence since then and only just now did an arrest and brought charges, with a judge agreeing.

Obviously we haven't heard his side yet ... but what is he going to say?? He's going to say she's lying and that the sexual assault kit findings are because she wanted rough sex.
 

GopherGrit said:
It's not he said, she said.

This incident happened back in Feb 2025. They've been gathering evidence since then and only just now did an arrest and brought charges, with a judge agreeing.

Obviously we haven't heard his side yet ... but what is he going to say?? He's going to say she's lying and that the sexual assault kit findings are because she wanted rough sex.
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Thanks for adding this.
 

GopherGrit said:
It's not he said, she said.

This incident happened back in Feb 2025. They've been gathering evidence since then and only just now did an arrest and brought charges, with a judge agreeing.

Obviously we haven't heard his side yet ... but what is he going to say?? He's going to say she's lying and that the sexual assault kit findings are because she wanted rough sex.
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I don't feel like anything you said there makes it "not he said, she said".

I have zero idea what happened, maybe it isn't just someone's word against anohter, but investigation and judge involved doesn't mean anything is a sure deal at this point.
 

A_Slab_of_Bacon said:
I don't feel like anything you said there makes it "not he said, she said".

I have zero idea what happened, maybe it isn't just someone's word against anohter, but investigation and judge involved doesn't mean anything is a sure deal at this point.
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Per the ESPN story

Kingston, 21, made his initial court appearance Friday in St. George, where prosecutors say a woman who was 20 years old at the time told officers that Kingston assaulted her at her home last February. He was arrested following a yearlong investigation in which detectives collected digital and forensic evidence and interviewed witnesses, Washington County Attorney Jerry Jaeger said.

"I found by clear and convincing evidence that Mr. Kingston was a danger to the community," Judge John Walton said during the hearing.

Kingston told St. George Police that "all sexual activity" with the woman accusing him of rape was "consensual," according to an affidavit unsealed Thursday. The woman told investigators she had made clear to Kingston before he came to her house that she did not want to have sex with him and she told him to stop several times when he initiated sex, the affidavit said.



There may be a pretty simple paper trail with all of this but it seems like they did their homework before bringing the charges, which in the general scheme of how these things go, seems more robust than some of the other ones. Could it still be an over-aggressive prosecutor and a judge trying to seem like they're coming down hard on this, sure. But seems like they collected as much as evidence as they could prior to bringing the charge rather than knee jerk up front
 

USAF said:
I'd like to think this has nothing to do with consensual activities or lines in the proverbial sand. Why did Loblaw even bring it up?

Once again, just to be clear, the accusation is rape. Felony, first degree rape.
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I brought it up because that's always the question with these scenarios. His defense and that would lead to his expulsion/severe suspension from BYU. So even if his story turns out to be true, he is done at BYU.

That EXACT scenario played out last year with their starting QB. He was accused of SA, the charges were dropped, and he was still served with a 9 game suspension for premarital sex (his argument was it was consensual).
 



The Deliberate Stranger said:
Makes me wonder how Jim McMahon survived that place
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My sister in law (SiL) was a classmate of his at BYU. She wonders that same thing. I know in one instance he was swearing loudly and frequently in the campus bowling alley. As funny as it sounds, a "normal" student would have been expelled for that. The same SiL got in trouble because one of her off campus roommates had her boyfriend stay over night, and my SiL did not report it, which is an Honor Code violation. Yeah, they mean business there.
 

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