Brewster to Tulane?

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Well said Bob.

I think Job #2 for Kill (Job #1 is winning games--including Big 10 games) will be to build up a pipeline of depth so that we can put a more consistent product on the field year after year.
 

This is a tremendous opportunity for Brewster.



Too soon?
 

The biggest question I have is whether Brewster really learned anything here or not. I know he made a comment about realizing he made a mistake switching schemes (which he actually always planned to do according to his statement), but he also made comments taking credit for the last two wins last year and what little success this team had this year. I don't think he understands all the things he did wrong, I think he's too willing to blame situations and circumstances out of his control rather than taking a true introspective look at himself and realizing his shortcomings and finding ways to overcome them. I honestly hope he DOES take that look at himself, makes himself a better coach and is successful, but I don't see it happening anytime soon.
 

Maybe the Gophers would have beaten Illinois and Iowa last season with Brewster as the coach, we'll never know. I'd never expect any coach to say "They never would have won those two games if I had been the coach!"
 

Lakeville Goldy said:
The biggest question I have is whether Brewster really learned anything here or not. I know he made a comment about realizing he made a mistake switching schemes (which he actually always planned to do according to his statement), but he also made comments taking credit for the last two wins last year and what little success this team had this year. I don't think he understands all the things he did wrong, I think he's too willing to blame situations and circumstances out of his control rather than taking a true introspective look at himself and realizing his shortcomings and finding ways to overcome them. I honestly hope he DOES take that look at himself, makes himself a better coach and is successful, but I don't see it happening anytime soon.
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Yeah, I have this same question with Brewster. I think he realizes the importance of contunuity now, but I still am not sure he will be introspective enought to fully understand the error in some of his ways. He did some things here well (contrary to public opinion) but in a lot of areas he failed miserably. I think he needs to understand that need for continuity in a coaching staff is also vital when it comes to recruiting. You need to bring in guys who you have a very good idea that they will be there for the long haul. Attrition killed him. The attrition of players and the attrition of coaches/schemes. I think he gets it with the coaches now, hopefully, for his sake, he gets it when it comes to players.
 


BarnBoy said:
This is a tremendous opportunity for Brewster.

Too soon?
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If Brewster does become the Tulane coach, I plan on attending the press conference wearing an olive-and-baby-blue "Tremendous" shirt.
 

Oh, and whenever Tulane does announce the head coach, they will also be announcing that they have secured the necessary funds to construct an on-campus football stadium. It won't be anywhere close to as nice as TCF ($80-100 million for a 30,000-seat facility), but how odd would it be for Brewster to come into that situation twice within a few years of each other?
 

This brings up the question that inquiring minds may never have asked: what is the record for the largest number of new stadiums that a coach has had? College teams don't open new stadiums very often, most coaches don't even have one new stadium, let alone two.
 

STPGopher said:
Maybe one shouldn't say it publically, but that should be the goal of every team.

BTW Brewster never said Rosebowl right away. He said sooner than later.
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I want to see the Gophers go the Rose Bowl just as much as any Gopher FB fan; in fact I plan on going when they do get there. There is a night and day difference between Brewster's first presser and Kill's comments, one was in la la land and the other was preaching reality.
 



wdgold said:
I want to see the Gophers go the Rose Bowl just as much as any Gopher FB fan; in fact I plan on going when they do get there. There is a night and day difference between Brewster's first presser and Kill's comments, one was in la la land and the other was preaching reality.
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Count me among the many GopherHolers who loved Brewster's first press conference. After ten years of Mason's excuses Brewster got me and a lot of other fans exited about Gopher football like never before. There was absolutely nothing wrong with Brewster's approach. He NEVER promised a Rose Bowl. At the signing day party he stated that Gophers were going to start every season with the GOAL of going to the Rose Bowl. There was huge applause when he said it. When GopherHolers heard that he got a piece of the Rose Bowl turf for the teams locker room I have no doubt that some of them started jacking off at the mere thought of it.
 

oak_street1981 said:
Brewster ran a loose ship and the players knew it.
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This is a point that I don't think is stressed enough. Brew talked a decent game about academics and such, but the fact is that he recruited some pretty suspect players. (Jewhan Edwards to name the most obvious). There's a reason Kill is having to spend way too much time dealing with borderline eligible players.

Some of that is due to it being more difficult to recruit here than at bigger name programs, but some of it I believe is that Brew was willing to look the other way on some things that ultimately hurt the program.

It's been beaten to death what a terrible coach Brew was here, and how he never should have been hired to coach a major college team. That said, he's not likely to be able to get away with recruiting subpar students at a school like Tulane. What's he going to do if he can't get a bunch of semi-literate screwups into school?
 

discochris said:
This is a point that I don't think is stressed enough. Brew talked a decent game about academics and such, but the fact is that he recruited some pretty suspect players. (Jewhan Edwards to name the most obvious). There's a reason Kill is having to spend way too much time dealing with borderline eligible players.

Some of that is due to it being more difficult to recruit here than at bigger name programs, but some of it I believe is that Brew was willing to look the other way on some things that ultimately hurt the program.

It's been beaten to death what a terrible coach Brew was here, and how he never should have been hired to coach a major college team. That said, he's not likely to be able to get away with recruiting subpar students at a school like Tulane. What's he going to do if he can't get a bunch of semi-literate screwups into school?
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Complete Bullsh*t. Under Brewster the football team's GPA when up from where Mason had it. This is just another instance of Jerry Kill's "woe is me" attitude that seems so popular with GopherHolers. I despise it.
 

Go4Broke said:
Count me among the many GopherHolers who loved Brewster's first press conference. After ten years of Mason's excuses Brewster got me and a lot of other fans exited about Gopher football like never before. There was absolutely nothing wrong with Brewster's approach. He NEVER promised a Rose Bowl. At the signing day party he stated that Gophers were going to start every season with the GOAL of going to the Rose Bowl. There was huge applause when he said it. When GopherHolers heard that he got a piece of the Rose Bowl turf for the teams locker room I have no doubt that some of them started jacking off at the mere thought of it.
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Oh I loved it too, I got sucked in like a lot of us did.
 



Go4Broke said:
Complete Bullsh*t. Under Brewster the football team's GPA when up from where Mason had it. This is just another instance of Jerry Kill's "woe is me" attitude that seems so popular with GopherHolers. I despise it.
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True. APR trended upward under Brewster, but still lagged behind most, if not all, of the Big Ten. Everyone has their impressions--me included--some of which are true and some of which aren't. People believe what they want to believe.

Brewster simply wasn't ready for a big-time head coaching job and yes, his best recruiting class turned out to have a number of guys with academic or social risks. One can head to about any program trying to get "over" and find that.

I didn't mind Brewster's optimism, but it was too unbounded at some junctures. I don't mind Kill's "telling it like it is" within boundaries as well. And I don't find Kill's comments to be aimed directly at Brewster. I think it is more aimed at everything that has happened to the football culture at the U post-Holtz.
 


You have yet to see the negative academic impact of that brewster since all these figures are based upon some lagging indicators. Just start adding up the transfers out and the players inelegibility. It is going to get worse before it gets better.

That brewster was a total and complete failure here at the Unviersity of Minnesota. Why do you think that even the incompetent b(s)jm and prexy b fired his tail mid-season in 2010? They had to spend still MORE on buy out money on that brewster clown that THEY were responsibile for bringing to the U of M. No matter how much some of you brewster apologists attempt to "sugar-coat" his pathetic priod of time here, we will still have what we have had during his time here.

And just take a look at the fact that attendance for home games by the home crowd tanked after the first year in the new stadium...and...the student section disappeared even during the 2nd half of the home schedule in the FIRST year of the new stadium.

P & M brewster apologists...but THAT is the way things went down.

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Go4Broke said:
Complete Bullsh*t. Under Brewster the football team's GPA when up from where Mason had it. This is just another instance of Jerry Kill's "woe is me" attitude that seems so popular with GopherHolers. I despise it.
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GPA is only one indicator of the type of player recruited.
 

I do not see Brewster ever getting another D1 head coaching job again. Brewster did not even last a full 4 years here at Minnesota. What school in their right mind is going to hire a coach to turn their program around, when that coach went down in flames in 4 years at his previous stop? You do not hire a proven loser, you hire a proven winner like Kill (I am not saying that Kill will turn things around, but he has shown he can do it). Any time a coach is taking over a program where the previous coach was fired, it is because the program is in bad shape. What did Brewster do here in Minnesota to show that he can turn a fb program around? Nothing, IMO. This, to me, is why he will never be a D1 hc again.

People saying that if he has continuity of staff and sticks with a certain type of offense he SHOULD do fine. Well, if you are the hiring AD, do you want to rely on hypotheticals or do you want to rely on proven past results? If I am the hiring AD, I would rely on the latter.
 

RodentRampage said:
What Brewster apologists?
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ALL the brewster apologists: Each and every one of them knows who each and every one of them are...and so do I... You can see/smell/hear their spinning a mile away.

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I haven't seen one person say that they think Brew did a good job or that he shouldn't have been fired. I haven't seen 1 Brew apologist.
 

imthewalrus said:
ALL the brewster apologists: Each and every one of them knows who each and every one of them are...and so do I... You can see/smell/hear their spinning a mile away.

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What Brewster apologists? No one is saying that Brewster did a good job here or that he shouldn't have been fired. No one is saying that hiring him was a good idea.

Saying the Brewster *Might* do ok at some other school doesn't equal being an apologist. That people continued to support the Gophers during Brewster's time here doesn't make them apologists.

You're the only one spinning.
 

GO4INLALALAND said:
I do not see Brewster ever getting another D1 head coaching job again. Brewster did not even last a full 4 years here at Minnesota. What school in their right mind is going to hire a coach to turn their program around, when that coach went down in flames in 4 years at his previous stop? You do not hire a proven loser, you hire a proven winner like Kill (I am not saying that Kill will turn things around, but he has shown he can do it). Any time a coach is taking over a program where the previous coach was fired, it is because the program is in bad shape. What did Brewster do here in Minnesota to show that he can turn a fb program around? Nothing, IMO. This, to me, is why he will never be a D1 hc again.

People saying that if he has continuity of staff and sticks with a certain type of offense he SHOULD do fine. Well, if you are the hiring AD, do you want to rely on hypotheticals or do you want to rely on proven past results? If I am the hiring AD, I would rely on the latter.
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Apparently Arizona is dumb enough to hire DickRod who flamed out in less than 4yrs in his previous job
 


WHB Brewer said:
Apparently Arizona is dumb enough to hire DickRod who flamed out in less than 4yrs in his previous job
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Really? You are comparing DickRod to Brewster? Oh yeah, DickRod was a disaster at WV that is why Michigan hired him. Oh yeah, Michigan fired him mid way through his fourth year -NOT. Please, that is a dumb comparison. DickRod has an offensive philosophy and I think he will have succes ay Arizona. Tell me genius, where did Brewster have previous hc success? I will be waiting a long time for that answer.
 

GO4INLALALAND said:
Really? You are comparing DickRod to Brewster? Oh yeah, DickRod was a disaster at WV that is why Michigan hired him. Oh yeah, Michigan fired him mid way through his fourth year -NOT. Please, that is a dumb comparison. DickRod has an offensive philosophy and I think he will have succes ay Arizona. Tell me genius, where did Brewster have previous hc success? I will be waiting a long time for that answer.
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You're right, DickRod wasn't fired mid-way through his 4th season...because he was fired after 3 seasons. The fact that he was successful at WVU is irrelevant to the fact that he was a total disaster at Michigan. He was even more of a disaster than Brew, because as Brady Joke is proving in his first season, one should NEVER win less than 9-10 games/season at Michigan.
 

dpodoll68 said:
You're right, DickRod wasn't fired mid-way through his 4th season...because he was fired after 3 seasons. The fact that he was successful at WVU is irrelevant to the fact that he was a total disaster at Michigan. He was even more of a disaster than Brew, because as Brady Joke is proving in his first season, one should NEVER win less than 9-10 games/season at Michigan.
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By your logic, if his success at WVU is irrelevant when talking about his stint at Michigan, shouldn't his failure at Michigan be irrelevant to how he does at Arizona? Just because he failed at Michigan doesn't mean that he will fail at Arizona or that he is a terrible coach. There are more things to consider like how a coach fits into the culture of a school as well.
 


olythegoalie31 said:
By your logic, if his success at WVU is irrelevant when talking about his stint at Michigan, shouldn't his failure at Michigan be irrelevant to how he does at Arizona? Just because he failed at Michigan doesn't mean that he will fail at Arizona or that he is a terrible coach. There are more things to consider like how a coach fits into the culture of a school as well.
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I never said it was relevant to Arizona. All I'm saying is that he was a disaster at Michigan. I don't know how anyone could reasonably argue with that. And, further, if DickRod is somehow worthy of yet another BCS job after Michigan (where, again, he was even worse than Brew), why is it so unfathomable that Brew would get a shot at a low-level I-A job?
 

dpodoll68 said:
I never said it was relevant to Arizona. All I'm saying is that he was a disaster at Michigan. I don't know how anyone could reasonably argue with that. And, further, if DickRod is somehow worthy of yet another BCS job after Michigan (where, again, he was even worse than Brew), why is it so unfathomable that Brew would get a shot at a low-level I-A job?
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EXACTLY
 

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