Forget the rumors...deal with the facts. I can live with that.
BREAKING: Coyle Hires Brett Larson as New Gophers Coach
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Hockey team profited over $2 mill last year, the buyout likely wouldn’t even put the team at a loss for the year. If Fersch was interested and we didn’t do everything to try and get him it’s just flat out bullshit from Coyle. Could’ve easily gotten it done.
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If you think coyle looks at men’s hockey and their budget in isolation you are sorely mistaken
coyle has been fiscally pretty conservative because mn donation wise is pretty conservative. Eating a 2mil buyout in a sport with pretty small revenue comparatively to bigger revenue sports only works if you’re going for the route that you have booster backing to cover those dollars. If the hockey team took a net even year the department would be in the red. Add that to that Larson seems to have gotten multiple boosters saying he’s a good choice and I can see why the money guy chose the safe route for the department (not to mention I’m going to guess Ferschs annual salary would’ve had to be substantially higher than what they’ll need to pay Larson).
I get where you’re coming from, but he’s never been the aspirational hire guy. Always has been the lower tier try grab them before they hit the big time AD
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Bigger revenue sports? Hockey brings in more ticket revenue than basketball... Also hearing that the guy in the room helping make this call, Nanne, doesnt like NIL... I mean wtf.
In FY25, MBB brought in only $2,113,049 in ticket revenue.
In FY25, they posted a $329K profit
Minnesota men's hockey posted impressive revenue of $9.7 million in FY25, a significant increase from $7.8 million in FY24. Ticket sales remained consistent at $3.9 million
There is just no NIL money. PSU is backed by a BILLIONAIRE. He will throw money at that team into perpetuity and the Gophers most prominent "rich" supporter doesn't like the game that needs to be played.
That's why you see Nick Angell on GPL trying to drum up support of Larson. No one is opening the checkbooks. And support from normal folks like us doesn't make a difference.
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What did men’s basketball total in revenue? I think it’s a silly argument but it’s the one they’re making. The unrealized additional revenue is also higher there than hockey.
Again why I said the only way you’re righting the NIL ship is with the Everyman we’ve got, but unfortunately this concept that you and I don’t matter is why we’re going to keep getting our asses kicked. There are way more gopher hockey fans and getting a large collection to donate say $100 (this is what I would try do with the seat licensing fee or something similar) across 5000 season tickets is 500k which is a really large fund per annum in college hockey. Same as if you get a 10000 fans to donate it does matter. This isn’t football where you’re paying the qb 4mil.
The above is why again I don’t really love coyles messaging and lack of wooing of small donors. We all matter. Sure it would be awesome if Lou endowed the coaching position and you could reroute money to NIL that way, but we also need to capitalize on your things like jersey sales (insane our novelties, parking, etc are 1.2 mil compared to 600k with mbb) and that we’ve only got 1mil in contributions (compared to 3 mil for mbb).
Larson seems to get it and the importance of NIL and does seem quite personable. My hope is this will help and if the GHC can get going, yes it will dramatically help
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Sell some frickin NIL jerseys. The decent replica ones at least. Don't sell like 10 authentics in the color people don't want. It's all a massive effing joke.
Also you'll be shocked by how the autopilot 70 year old season ticket holders will perk up when you ask them for 100 bucks a seat. Season tickets are already a bad investment now with how easy it is to wait for someone else to offload a given game for cheap.
Also I'd give 500 bucks if I knew we'd get a top 10 pick. But there's no guarantee. That's why it's different for a billionaire that doesn't notice the difference between 250K and 2 million. He will get a top guy or three every single time.
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The Jersey stuff I agree is completely ridiculous that they can’t figure out a way to sell them. Super simple way to make a good chunk of money
It is the most fun way for fans of all ages to support the team they love and the players they love to watch. Instead of just writing a check for 100 bucks. You have something to keep in your closet for decades. They need to solve that. And they won't.
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Yeah that's a good point, I'd be much more likely to buy a jersey than just sending $100 or whatever that would go much further with other causes.
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We have no proof whatsoever that Ferschweiler wanted to be here or was interested besides a random tweet with no credibility from someone looking for clicks.
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To my knowledge there was one very vague unconfirmed tweet by an account looking for clicks. Pat Micheletti immediately stated it wasn’t true. Ferschweiler was never going to happen.
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SCSU is a financial mess right now. Prior to the NIL era, Larson took them to four tournaments, a championship game, and a regional final. If Motzko would have retired three years ago, Larson would’ve arguably been the most logical choice at that time.
But even this past season, his players clearly never quit on him as indicated by their two OT playoff losses up in Duluth against a team capable of winning it all. That’s a legit sign of good coaching when you don’t lose the players late in a bad season. Compare that to our performance at Penn State.
I can’t wait to see what he’s capable of with our resources including NIL which I don’t believe is nearly as dire as bonin21 claims. Our current recruiting pipeline is more what we’re used to. LFG!
But even this past season, his players clearly never quit on him as indicated by their two OT playoff losses up in Duluth against a team capable of winning it all. That’s a legit sign of good coaching when you don’t lose the players late in a bad season. Compare that to our performance at Penn State.
I can’t wait to see what he’s capable of with our resources including NIL which I don’t believe is nearly as dire as bonin21 claims. Our current recruiting pipeline is more what we’re used to. LFG!
Current pipeline is not great. It's good, but the big guns are gonna bring in superstars year after year to reload. Gotta have I'd say three first rounders on the roster every year to feel stacked like we're "used to". Hopefully one on next year's team and three the year after that.
Cullen
Harper
Cullen
(and hopefully one more from CHL)
Then you're cooking
Let's ignore the worst Gopher season of our lifetimes. Gopher hockey isn't physical. They are a skill team. Show me a good Gopher hockey team with no first rounders in the last 20 years. I'll wait.
You are the one who have been obsessed with teams with multiple 1st round picks on their team. BU, Michigan, BC, MSU etc in the past. How many of those teams won it?
UND and UM both have three. So let's see...
They currently have TWO drafted 1st rounders on their rosters
And each with a first rounder in 2026.
but to play your game of semantics, they are not now....
If Harper becomes a sure fire first rounder we'll call him that and see if we have two next season. Valentini may not be but his production should bump him up.
Cullen is also not a guarantee at this point. Verhoeff obviously is.
When you look back on a team you say how many first rounders they had.
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Focusing on a one game sample over an entire year where they were ranked between 1-3 in the country. Also I wouldn't argue that Stramel getting hurt helped MSU.
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Duck duck donates 20% of all their sales to NIL.
Agree some kind alumni should tell the restaurant we pregame at next year they’ll cover the tab and let the place we’re at donate 50% to DTA. You in @bonin21 ?
But it’s way easier to just complain. Now it is und so maybe they sold 20k Busch lights, but let’s say they sold 1000. Certainly you can donate the 2500 to the cause and would be willing to go to any restaurant or bar and encourage them to do the same? We could even get you volunteer working for the GHC as every cent counts. Or do we just need big money donors? I forget
Agree some kind alumni should tell the restaurant we pregame at next year they’ll cover the tab and let the place we’re at donate 50% to DTA. You in @bonin21 ?
But it’s way easier to just complain. Now it is und so maybe they sold 20k Busch lights, but let’s say they sold 1000. Certainly you can donate the 2500 to the cause and would be willing to go to any restaurant or bar and encourage them to do the same? We could even get you volunteer working for the GHC as every cent counts. Or do we just need big money donors? I forget
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Jerseys and beer vs some brand I've never heard of. Is it apparel or hard liquor?
The U just bought the BWW by the arena. Will they put in any thought to making it a cool place to be and have a cut of beer sales for NIL? No, and there's always some excuse about why. Like with the jerseys. Always an excuse.
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Google exists. It’s beer and seltzer and hard alcohol and it’s sold at every single gopher sporting event they can sell liquor and in liquor stores all across the state. You’d have to be purposely ignoring it to not know this
This is the brand Greenway is affiliated with
Edit: Sorry and I was wrong. 25% of all vodka sales, 20% for the rest
Interestingly enough I heard both Duluth (hockey) and Wisconsin (football) fans talking about it at the games this year telling someone in their group they were donating to our NIL fund buying it.
It’s a pretty meh beer, but if there’s a gathering or something it works just the same as Busch light, coors, etc as something you’re not in it for the taste lol
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Grey duck not duck duck, I think. That's why I couldn't find it
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It’s called duck duck beer.
Yes apologies The company is grey duck and I’d forgotten the vodka stuff so must be why I just have duck duck in my head