I wouldn't necessarily say Iowa State has improved the roster much in their turnover. Their top guys all left and the ones brought in don't move the needle. Yes, they've gotten 2 2022 commits, but neither looks like a difference maker.
I wonder if all the gholers with acute PDS considered the possibility that all but two players would quit the team upon Pitino’s dismissal. Probably not but at least they got what they wanted.
Exactly! I liked johnson, but if I cant find a guy out of 1400 guys that is just as good as johnson than shame on our coaching staff.
we're the cupcake
"Listen, here's the thing. If you can't spot the sucker in your first half hour at the table, then you ARE the sucker." - Mike McDermott
Your probably right. Still should find a guy that can play better than johnson!
Clem had the great fortune of inheriting Dutch's class of Newbern, Schick and Burton all of whom became really good players. Unfortunately, Ben is going to have to do it almost all on his own. Other than that I think that the comparison is excellent. Next year will be tough.
I saw Johnson as one of our more solid all around players. I don't see that as an easy replacement.
This is probably more procedural than anything else. He is still testing the NBA waters as well so it is unlikely that he would commit to any other school.
I wouldn't say on the cheap (a quick relative comparison of some of the Big10 coaches):
| Coach, School | Starting Salary | HC Exp At Hire | Other Notables |
| Greg Gard, Wisconsin | $ 638,000 | Coach or Assistant coach for 25 years prior to hire, WI Assoc HC for 7 yrs | |
| Richard Pitino, Minnesota | $ 1,20,0000 | 1 | Son of Rick Pitino, FIU HC 1 yr, Asst coach for 8 yrs including Florida & Louisville |
| Juwan Howard, Michigan | $ 2,000,000 | 2× NBA champion, NBA All-Star, All-NBA Third Team, NBA All-Rookie Second Team, Second-team All-American, Third-team All-American, Miami Heat Assistant coach 6 years | |
| Steve Pikiell, Rutgers | $ 1,400,000 | 11 | College Asst Coach for 15 yrs, Stony Brook HC 11 yrs |
| Ben Johnson | $ 2,000,000 | College Asst coach for 15 yrs including MN, Nebraska, & Xavier | |
| Fred Hoiberg, Nebraska | $ 2,500,000 | 5 | 10 yr NBA player, 115-56 W/L rate as IA ST HC -- Hired at IA St for $850,000 per year |
| Fran McCaffery, Iowa | $ 800,000 | 14 | MAAC Coach of the Year (2009), Asst coach for 12 years |
| Matt Painter, Purdue | $ 1,290,000 | 1 | Asst Coach 11 years, As HC MVC Coach of the Year w 25-5 record one time AP top 15 |
| Chris Collins, Northwestern | $ 1,340,000 | 15 years Asst Coach -- 13 yrs at Duke | |
| Brad Underwood, Illinois | $ 2,700,000 | 8 | 7 years Asst Coach, 4 yr CC HC, Southland Coach of the Year, 1 yr at OK St: 20–13 & NCAA appearance |
| Archie Miller, Indiana | $ 3,200,000 | 6 | 8 years Asst Coach (OSU, Arizona, NC St), Atlantic 10 Coach of the Year (2017), 139-63 as Dayton HC |
| Mark Turgeon, Maryland | $ 2,365,000 | 13 | 11 Years Asst Coach (Kansas, Oregon, NBA), MVC Coach of the Year (2006), TX A&M 97-40 record 4 NCAA appearances API high 9 |
| Chris Holtmann, Ohio St. | $7,100,000/3,000,000 | 7 | 12 Years Asst Coach, All-American (1994), John McLendon National Coach of the Year (2017), Jim Phelan Award (2018) Big South Coach of the Year (2013), Big East Coach of the Year (2017) |
Yeah, the craziness of this year also just made it so much easier for people to move around. Whenever there is a new coach, there is uncertainty (we see transfers whenever there is a coach change), so the amount of turnover was to be expected.
He said if he came back, he wanted to play for a winner. Since he only has one year left, that was never going to be Minnesota.
Pretty misleading on Gard. UW does it differently and lists his salary as what is paid by the athletic department but the pay far more through the UW Foundation.
So we could go 7-13 in conference next season and barely miss the NIT?
Yeah that is a little interesting. Seems like Ben isn't telling anyone they're going to start and he'll analyze during training camp. Players want that promise or they're out
Again!
According to Verbal Commits (3pm 5/4/21), there are 1539 players that are currently in the portal, 772 uncommitted to a new school. Of those 772 players here is the breakdown of how they are ranked coming out of high school:
Thank you for that info.
kinda. Most of all the small school players that have moved up were most likely 2 star players. The portal does give bigger schools a chance to reload and sort out theists from high school. Also, there are new players being added to the list every day, just like Johnson just joined the list.
Gophers 10, to-date, is 19% of B1G to be on the portal or to have actual transfer? In other words does the 53 exclude those who have recommited to their current school?
I might be mistaken, and it may depend on how quickly the list is updated, but if you re-committed to your current school, wouldn't you come off the Transfer Portal list? What difference does it make which school you committed to? Seems like moving to a new one or committing to your old school would do the same thing to your name being on the Portal list.
Not my intention to mislead. If you have a better source, please post it rather than make a statement with no information. Here is my source:
The most comparable coach on the list to Ben Johnson is probably Chris Collins at Northwestern. He also had no prior HC experience. He was a similar statistical basketball player to Johnson at Duke. He was an asst for 15 years, (13 for Krzyzewski). Johnson was also an asst for 15 years.
Just looking for context.