In the end, you have to win. Right? Where we stand now is we were 9-11 (much better) and we are 15-45 the last three years. That has a lot to do with coaching. The hope we are clinging to is that he just about has it together. Now we are rebuilding again or it appears that way.
Coaching at the college level is a lot of things. One of them is getting the kids to believe in what you are doing. Gopher Writer says that we had 4 kids on the team rebelling against what the coach was doing. That's 4 of the top 9 players (ouch) not agreeing with what the coach is doing. Three of them were Ben's HS recruits guys who should have been bought into his vision. JOJ, Ihnen and Carrington are not off to get a "bag"- they are just off looking for a different situation and it looks like 2 of them got pushed out. Payne is out looking for the money and in my view he should be. Furthermore, if we had any sense, we would be trying to save him.