Big Ten Top 25 Players

[tjgopher]

Andy Rittenberg ranked the Top 25 players in the Big Ten. He just listed Greg Jones at No. 2. How nice would it have been to see Greg Jones in Maroon and Gold?? Wow.

On another note, not a single Golden Gopher in the Top 25.

I would assume Iowa's Adrian Clayborn will be the No. 1 player when he finishes the list tomorrow. Unfortunately, there are lots of Hawkeyes and Badgers on that Top 25 list. Tons of Buckeyes, too.

 

[Sportsfan24]

I wouldn't worry about it, a number of the players on the list are there (rightfully) as a by-product of their teams success. I can think of several Gopher players better than some on the list. When we win this year that list will change dramaticly.

 

[Art Vandelay]

I wouldn't worry about it, a number of the players on the list are there (rightfully) as a by-product of their teams success. I can think of several Gopher players better than some on the list. When we win this year that list will change dramaticly.

For example?!?!?!?!

 

[Sportsfan24]

For example?!?!?!?!

Adam Weber and Scot Tolzien

 

[AhliBobwa]

For example?!?!?!?!

My guess is that the post season top 25 will include 3 or 4 of the following players--Kirksey, Edwards, Carter, DJ McKnight, Tinsley, Cooper, Weber (yep Weber--an O-line and running game will bring him back into form).

 

[Stargenes]

I think that is not a bad list all things considered. Really like the Jones selection. I think he is #1 in the conference. Based on last year's performances, it is hard to argue with how the list came out. However, I frankly believe it will be a few changes by year end as well. I may be in the minority on this, but I am just not moved by Tolzien or Stanzi. However, I think it will be Stanzi that falls off the list as he will lose the kind of OLine protection he has grown use to in prior years. Tolzien on the other hand will be bolstered by a great running game.

I also expect to see McNight to emerge on the list by season's end as well.

 

[Heber]

My guess is that the post season top 25 will include 3 or 4 of the following players--Kirksey, Edwards, Carter, DJ McKnight, Tinsley, Cooper, Weber (yep Weber--an O-line and running game will bring him back into form).

Too bad those won't be good again next year

 

[Ski U Mah 55]

My guess is that the post season top 25 will include 3 or 4 of the following players--Kirksey, Edwards, Carter, DJ McKnight, Tinsley, Cooper, Weber (yep Weber--an O-line and running game will bring him back into form).

Do we have an o line? For that matter do we have a good RB?? Also, no safety blanket in Decker. Weber will have to make things happen on his own for the most part if he wants to improve.

 

[RealPushBack]

My guess is that the post season top 25 will include 3 or 4 of the following players--Kirksey, Edwards, Carter, DJ McKnight, Tinsley, Cooper, Weber (yep Weber--an O-line and running game will bring him back into form).

Based on what?

 

[frozengopher]

Based on what?

Flashes of brilliance that showed even in the midst of minimal playing time for some of those guys. If I were a betting man I would put money down on Coop getting some form of all conference honors this season, pending injury (knock on wood). We've got players, we just need the right schemes. If Horton makes this offense simplified to a certain extent, I have no qualms about imagining Weber as a second teamer again. This conference isn't exactly sporting the cream of the crop at the qb position.

 

[BCS Gopher]

I wouldn't worry about it, a number of the players on the list are there (rightfully) as a by-product of their teams success. I can think of several Gopher players better than some on the list. When we win this year that list will change dramaticly.

ROTFLMAO.....name one??

 

[BCS Gopher]

Adam Weber and Scot Tolzien

uhhhhhhhhhh........ya.

 

[GhostofBronko]

Adam Weber and Scot Tolzien

If you're arguing that if Weber were the Badgers QB he'd be be better than Tolzein, well maybe. If you're arguing that Weber has or will in 2010 be a better QB for the Gophers than Tolzein for the Badgers, you're nuts.

 

[Rosemountian]

I am willing to bet if Greg Jones played for Glen Mason at the U of M, he would not have developed as well as he did. He would not have been a Defensive Player of the Year candidate.

There was a reason Glen Mason didn't have any LB's selected in the NFL draft. (He and his staff sucked at coaching/developing them)

 

[AhliBobwa]

ROTFLMAO.....name one??

PantherHawk!!

I know it´s you, cause you´re using the patented overly long all caps internet acronym.

You´re too predictable. Seek Psychiatric help and stop feeding this perverse obsession of yours.

 

[Sportsfan]

PantherHawk!!

I know it´s you, cause you´re using the patented overly long all aps internet acronym.

You´re too predictable. Seek Psychiatric help and stop feeding this perverse obsession of yours.

So moron... does that mean you can't name one because you sure are trying to change the subject. Either put up or shut up!

You, my friend, are why fans of other teams make fun of the Gophers and their meager fanbase.

 

[AhliBobwa]

So moron... does that mean you can't name one because you sure are trying to change the subject. Either put up or shut up!

You, my friend, are why fans of other teams make fun of the Gophers and their meager fanbase.

Umm....when calling someone a moron. It´s usually best if you actually read the thread first. You see, I wrote a list of players and said I felt confident 3 of them would appear on Rittenberg´s post season top 25.

So, again, tough to call me a moron when you are unable to read. And the only ´fans´ who rip on the Gophers are those Hawkeye and Badger fans with a vast inferiority complex about the Twin Cities.

and since you have less than 30 posts, and made a point of defending PantherHawk, I´ll have to assume you are either him or one of his lightsaber wielding comrads. I would bet on the former.

 

[gopherbadgerman]

I think the Gophs could end up with one or two guys, esp if Weber has a bounce back year. He has the talent, IMO, to be a good B10 QB, but does need some help. Maybe McKnight as well. Im not sold on the young talent on D, but maybe they will prove me wrong...

 

[Sportsfan]

Umm....when calling someone a moron. It´s usually best if you actually read the thread first. You see, I wrote a list of players and said I felt confident 3 of them would appear on Rittenberg´s post season top 25.

So, again, tough to call me a moron when you are unable to read. And the only ´fans´ who rip on the Gophers are those Hawkeye and Badger fans with a vast inferiority complex about the Twin Cities.

and since you have less than 30 posts, and made a point of defending PantherHawk, I´ll have to assume you are either him or one of his lightsaber wielding comrads. I would bet on the former.

Face it... if Rittenberg had a top 100 list... there wouldn't be any Gophers on that list either. You're argument for inclusion is merely wishful thinking. I guess every sportswriter and media outlet is wrong on their outlook of the Gopher team and the handful of U fans on this forum are the only correct viewpoints.

But hey... you guys still have those glory days long gone by to hang on to.

I wasn't planning on posting again until November, but this was too funny to resist.

Plus, I have to get over 30 posts to gain your cred.

BTW: Sounds like Sentreal is available again. You probably have his phone # on speed dial.

 

[Stargenes]

Face it... if Rittenberg had a top 100 list... there wouldn't be any Gophers on that list either. You're argument for inclusion is merely wishful thinking. I guess every sportswriter and media outlet is wrong on their outlook of the Gopher team and the handful of U fans on this forum are the only correct viewpoints.

But hey... you guys still have those glory days long gone by to hang on to.

I wasn't planning on posting again until November, but this was too funny to resist.

Plus, I have to get over 30 posts to gain your cred.

BTW: Sounds like Sentreal is available again. You probably have his phone # on speed dial.

I always find it somewhat funny when trolls get upset when Gopher fans do not buy into their teams' preseason recognition. Are we really all suppose to accept these writers' opinions as the Gospil? Give me a break. Write it down pigman; Weber will likely cash in better stats than your Stanzi guy. And, be sure to chime in and participate when that weaker Oline exposes the weaknesses in his purported armor; Indiana won't fall apart when they get you down this year. So enjoy the PRESEASON RECOGNITION because the Gophers will get the old fashon way, postseason after they've earned it. 6 National Championships

 

[Stargenes]

I am willing to bet if Greg Jones played for Glen Mason at the U of M, he would not have developed as well as he did. He would not have been a Defensive Player of the Year candidate.

There was a reason Glen Mason didn't have any LB's selected in the NFL draft. (He and his staff sucked at coaching/developing them)

I'm sorry but even Mason could not have screwed up this one. Jones is an absolute ANIMAL on the field with the best tackling form that I have seen in quite some time. And he does not have imposing size. Now that is an ALL AMERICAN!

Not sure why all the lovefest for Iowa players but Clayborn should have been two on the list behind Jones.

 

[Sportsfan24]

If you're arguing that if Weber were the Badgers QB he'd be be better than Tolzein, well maybe. If you're arguing that Weber has or will in 2010 be a better QB for the Gophers than Tolzein for the Badgers, you're nuts.

Either nuts are someone who has seen each player up close since they were 16 and 18 and is intimately familiar with their capabilities.

Weber has proven that he can be a playmaker for the Gophers. Tolzien has not been asked to do a fraction of the things for the Badgers that Weber has been asked to do for the Gophers.

Tolzien is a great person and a very good college football player and he deserves to be listed where he is but Tolzien doesn't have the phyiscal attributes as qb that Weber does.

 

[jovs]

Do we have an o line? For that matter do we have a good RB?? Also, no safety blanket in Decker. Weber will have to make things happen on his own for the most part if he wants to improve.

I think one of the keys is going to be the ability of Weber to check off and find the open second or third receiver, even when he is under pressure. I think you are right on when you say Decker was his safety blanket. He could just put it out near him and there was a good chance it turned into a reception. He just isn't going to have that option this year.

 

[TAW]

Either nuts are someone who has seen each player up close since they were 16 and 18 and is intimately familiar with their capabilities.

Weber has proven that he can be a playmaker for the Gophers. Tolzien has not been asked to do a fraction of the things for the Badgers that Weber has been asked to do for the Gophers.

Tolzien is a great person and a very good college football player and he deserves to be listed where he is but Tolzien doesn't have the phyiscal attributes as qb that Weber does.

Wisconsin quarterbacks aren't asked to be playmakers, only to be able to think on their feet and not make mistakes. Tolzien fits that scheme admirably. Badgers fans will be holding their breath every time he gets hit this year, because the backups were horrid in spring camp.

 

[Stargenes]

I think one of the keys is going to be the ability of Weber to check off and find the open second or third receiver, even when he is under pressure. I think you are right on when you say Decker was his safety blanket. He could just put it out near him and there was a good chance it turned into a reception. He just isn't going to have that option this year.

While of course, Decker is in the NFL and will not be available, I would like to emphasize that McNight is very good at going up and making spectacular catches. Overall, I believe Weber will be better off because of the depth of talent he will be throwing to this year. IMHO of course.

 

[Ski U Mah 55]

While of course, Decker is in the NFL and will not be available, I would like to emphasize that McNight is very good at going up and making spectacular catches. Overall, I believe Weber will be better off because of the depth of talent he will be throwing to this year. IMHO of course.

I don't think we have anyone who will get the tough 3rd down catches across the middle and run precise routes like Decker did. Unless we find a RB to make defenses play us more evenly, I think 3rd down conversions with 4+ yards to go will be tough to find.

 

[Rosemountian]

I'm sorry but even Mason could not have screwed up this one. Jones is an absolute ANIMAL on the field with the best tackling form that I have seen in quite some time. And he does not have imposing size. Now that is an ALL AMERICAN!

Not sure why all the lovefest for Iowa players but Clayborn should have been two on the list behind Jones.

No doubt Jones is an all american. Mason could have and would have screwed up this one. When you don't have a good linebacker over a 10 year period, that isn't just bad luck recruiting, it takes some lack of skill coaching/developing too.

 

[atsgopher]

Face it... if Rittenberg had a top 100 list... there wouldn't be any Gophers on that list either. You're argument for inclusion is merely wishful thinking. I guess every sportswriter and media outlet is wrong on their outlook of the Gopher team and the handful of U fans on this forum are the only correct viewpoints.

But hey... you guys still have those glory days long gone by to hang on to.

I wasn't planning on posting again until November, but this was too funny to resist.

Plus, I have to get over 30 posts to gain your cred.

BTW: Sounds like Sentreal is available again. You probably have his phone # on speed dial.

I liken preseason Mags (any sport) to weathermen; you are only using historical information to project the future. However, I find this to be a fools pursuit...These guys make their money by making the safe predictions (kind of like every single stockbroker/financial guy). It's typical herding beaviour. If you are wrong you can point to all the evidence of experts that agreed with you.

With that siad, you may be right about the Gophs not being great this next year, you are crazy to not think there won't be a top 100 guy. Anyone with insight on the roster knows that Brew has done an impeccable job locating talent; the true question (which I expect to be answered in the next two seasons) is: Can this guy teach?

I suspect that guys like Triplett, Cambell, etc, etc are not anomolies...so look out for the Gophs because they are young and disrepected (i.e. evidence Brew and Co. can coach). This year I expect them to be spoilers. Anything less and I'll start whining. Either way any expectation should be tempered by the youth of the most talented guys. One should expect some egrgious mistakes, yet improved technique and some aamazing plays.

P.S. my apologies for the bad spelling and grammer as drinking till 5am is much harder than it used to be.

 

[Sportsfan]

I liken preseason Mags (any sport) to weathermen; you are only using historical information to project the future. However, I find this to be a fools pursuit...These guys make their money by making the safe predictions (kind of like every single stockbroker/financial guy). It's typical herding beaviour. If you are wrong you can point to all the evidence of experts that agreed with you.

With that siad, you may be right about the Gophs not being great this next year, you are crazy to not think there won't be a top 100 guy. Anyone with insight on the roster knows that Brew has done an impeccable job locating talent; the true question (which I expect to be answered in the next two seasons) is: Can this guy teach?

I suspect that guys like Triplett, Cambell, etc, etc are not anomolies...so look out for the Gophs because they are young and disrepected (i.e. evidence Brew and Co. can coach). This year I expect them to be spoilers. Anything less and I'll start whining. Either way any expectation should be tempered by the youth of the most talented guys. One should expect some egrgious mistakes, yet improved technique and some aamazing plays.

P.S. my apologies for the bad spelling and grammer as drinking till 5am is much harder than it used to be.

All good programs/coaches around the country get at least some meaningful production from younger guys(freshmen and sophs) to compliment the upperclassmen. This is Brew's 4th year. In the previous three... young guys have NOT stepped up much. Some of you have touted his recruiting prowess. That means he hasn't coached them up to the point they are contributing. Arguably, the best players last year were Decker and Tripplet, so little production from younger guys. As a point of comparison at Iowa... some of the best production came from young studs like Sash(soph), Reiff(fresh), and Wegher/Robinson(fresh). That isn't my opinion, that's a fact. Where the Gophs suffer is in the trenches... the O-line was fat and slow and the D-line couldn't stop guys and most of the defense were upperclassmen. So you can see why no respect has been earned and none given.

To think the Gophs will be improved this year by how they looked in the spring game is ludicrous. More wishful thinking from a uninformed fanbase.

Any neutral observer would look at the schedule and question where 6-7 wins will come from. It's unfortunate that this tougher schedule is in a critical year for Brew's future. But he has put himself in this position by his over-hyping.

If he gets anywhere near 7 wins he should be COY. I just don't see it happening.

 

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