Big break from the refs last Saturday

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First off, about getting balanced calls "except against Penn St," let me just point out that the refs have stolen 2 games from us against Penn St in our short history with them. There was that game we barely lost in 1997 where even Paterno admitted the refs screwed up (and he came into our locker room after the game and even said it) and then there was the game in the Dome in 2006 that went to OT (and we missed the XP). In that game, it was 4th down in OT for PSU, and they threw to the sideline. IIRC, it was Trumaine Banks who reached around the WR and batted down the pass for the victory, which was then snatched away from us by the refs with a bogus PI call. Perfect D on that, perfectly screwed call.

All that said, I'd argue the calls balance out over time - we just tend to remember the ones against us a lot more than those for us.

As for this play in particular, does anyone actually know the rule for college on what a catch is? I don't watch enough games on TV to have it heard it discussed. Other posters in this thread have said the ball can hit the ground as long as the receiver controls it through the play and after rolling over on the ground. That's definitely the NFL rule, but did college change to match the NFL rule? The NFL only changed that a few years ago - it used to be if any part of the ball hit the ground it was incomplete, and I don't know if the NCAA has updated to match the NFL or if they're still with the old standard.
 

Ah, you're right, I might have them mixed up. I am curious of the actual true college rule as well.
 

I think we get balanced calls...except for against Penn St. We have been hosed way too many times against them over the years...not even close calls...just flat out made up *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!#.

Regarding the DCT catch...we benefited from the sideline people blocking the best camera angle...that helped. I don't think any video was going to over rule the call on the field...either way...so we should probably reward DCT with an attaboy for doing such a good job of selling the catch by jumping up and celebrating right away...no reason for the back judge to step in and say "maybe not" and the rest is history!
 

Golden Elephant said:
First off, about getting balanced calls "except against Penn St," let me just point out that the refs have stolen 2 games from us against Penn St in our short history with them. There was that game we barely lost in 1997 where even Paterno admitted the refs screwed up (and he came into our locker room after the game and even said it) and then there was the game in the Dome in 2006 that went to OT (and we missed the XP). In that game, it was 4th down in OT for PSU, and they threw to the sideline. IIRC, it was Trumaine Banks who reached around the WR and batted down the pass for the victory, which was then snatched away from us by the refs with a bogus PI call. Perfect D on that, perfectly screwed call.

All that said, I'd argue the calls balance out over time - we just tend to remember the ones against us a lot more than those for us.

As for this play in particular, does anyone actually know the rule for college on what a catch is? I don't watch enough games on TV to have it heard it discussed. Other posters in this thread have said the ball can hit the ground as long as the receiver controls it through the play and after rolling over on the ground. That's definitely the NFL rule, but did college change to match the NFL rule? The NFL only changed that a few years ago - it used to be if any part of the ball hit the ground it was incomplete, and I don't know if the NCAA has updated to match the NFL or if they're still with the old standard.
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I guess maybe you're right, calls over the course of a game, season, decade, etc whether meaningful or not (as in don't directly affect the outcome of the game) probably even out over time.

However, how many questionable calls can you remember that went our way that helped GIVE us the game. Name one in the past 10-15 years. A guy on MN who was clearly out of bounds but ruled in, TD catch, no call on a pass interference that WON us the game, etc. I can't think of any and can surely point to several against many teams (bluebloods or not).
 

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