*Cough cough* Frost *cough*That PJ comment towards the end of the presser wasn’t even prompted- he just brought up the respect he has for his philosophy. Imagine that, you can have a different coaching style and still have respect for someone doing it a different way. Others could take notes…
I would guess Schiano or someone else in the Patriots/Rutgersverse?Anyone know why Bret would know Joe Rossi? Doesn't seem like their paths have crossed in terms of leagues they worked in.
I'd say the hate in the past was more directed toward Tim Brewster than the whole team. Brewster was a big blow in hindsight, as far as I'm concerned.Boy, if he gets any more complementary towards PJ and our Gophers, I might become a Bert fan.
Seems like the only person who likes PJ more than me is Bielema.
True. Robb Smith connects Rossi to BielemaI was just recalling… haven’t both these head coaches hired and fired the exact same D coordinator?
Wisconsin is also our chief rival (they at least play us in all sports save baseball, and Iowa's team is a joke) -- so I think that had something to do with it. If he was Iowa's head coach I wonder if he'd be so complimentary.I'd say the hate in the past was more directed toward Tim Brewster than the whole team. Brewster was a big blow in hindsight, as far as I'm concerned.
Ding ding, good workI was just recalling… haven’t both these head coaches hired and fired the exact same D coordinator?
Fair enough. I don't remember most of what went on with Bielema and the Gophers back then. I'll always remember the "handshake" after one game. Bielema gave TB a little hand slap and ran off, not even looking at TB.Wisconsin is also our chief rival (they at least play us in all sports save baseball, and Iowa's team is a joke) -- so I think that had something to do with it. If he was Iowa's head coach I wonder if he'd be so complimentary.
Pardon my ignorance, but what about him taking the Arkansas involved figurative (or literal) middle fingers?Lots of hate around here for somebody who dumped Wisconsin and left town with two middle fingers in the air.
I do think you're right that he's more complimentary of us because he's at Illinois instead of Iowa or Wisconsin -- but I doubt that he was pushed out, if only for the fact that I believe Barry would have someone better than Gary Anderson lined up.Guys, do not get misled by his comments.
Butthead is still Butthead.
He is not in the same position or level that he was at Sconny. At Wisconsin he was handed a well established program and had the guidance of Alvarez to keep it churning along. He felt he was superior to Minnesota and showed it with his arrogance. And remember how messy it was when he switched to Arkansas. Some even think he may have been pushed out, of course he wanted it to look like he moving on to a “better” conference with the chance to show how good of a coach he was without Alvarez. We all know how that turned out
Now he has a major rebuilding process ahead of him and wants to butter up the competition. He also has to hold back expectations from the fans, so he is much more diplomatic.
He also was young when he became HC. I like to think he is older and wiser now, learning from his ARK and NFL stints.Guys, do not get misled by his comments.
Butthead is still Butthead.
He is not in the same position or level that he was at Sconny. At Wisconsin he was handed a well established program and had the guidance of Alvarez to keep it churning along. He felt he was superior to Minnesota and showed it with his arrogance. And remember how messy it was when he switched to Arkansas. Some even think he may have been pushed out, of course he wanted it to look like he moving on to a “better” conference with the chance to show how good of a coach he was without Alvarez. We all know how that turned out
Now he has a major rebuilding process ahead of him and wants to butter up the competition. He also has to hold back expectations from the fans, so he is much more diplomatic.
He was not pushed out. Believe it or not, sometimes people want a change and a new challenge. Did not work out at Arkansas, Illinois is a challenge he very well may have success. He is a good coach and while people rip the guy at every turn on this board, he has never lost to Minnesota. He has beaten the hell out of us recruiting as well, ask Frank Ragnow.Guys, do not get misled by his comments.
Butthead is still Butthead.
He is not in the same position or level that he was at Sconny. At Wisconsin he was handed a well established program and had the guidance of Alvarez to keep it churning along. He felt he was superior to Minnesota and showed it with his arrogance. And remember how messy it was when he switched to Arkansas. Some even think he may have been pushed out, of course he wanted it to look like he moving on to a “better” conference with the chance to show how good of a coach he was without Alvarez. We all know how that turned out
Now he has a major rebuilding process ahead of him and wants to butter up the competition. He also has to hold back expectations from the fans, so he is much more diplomatic.
Barry did, but Chryst took the Pitt job when got tired of waiting. Butthead had good results at Wisc, but remember that he was beginning to wear out his welcome with his conduct and actions. He also wanted to prove himself without Barry holding his hand. And he failed at Arkansas to build a program. He also burnt bridges when he left.I do think you're right that he's more complimentary of us because he's at Illinois instead of Iowa or Wisconsin -- but I doubt that he was pushed out, if only for the fact that I believe Barry would have someone better than Gary Anderson lined up.
Respectfully, that doesn't make a lot of sense. If Chryst told Barry he was planning on taking the Pitt job in '11 why doesn't he just push Bret out then? Why wait another year to push him out if you weren't guaranteed to be able to flip Chryst and had to settle for Gary Anderson? I give Barry enough credit that if he wanted to "mutually" part ways with Bret he'd have a better plan in place.Barry did, but Chryst took the Pitt job when got tired of waiting. Butthead had good results at Wisc, but remember that he was beginning to wear out his welcome with his conduct and actions. He also wanted to prove himself without Barry holding his hand. And he failed at Arkansas to build a program. He also burnt bridges when he left.
I am just reminding people to not get to enamored with Butthead, he is who we thought he was….
With PJ and crew working Illinois hard for recruits, it wouldn't surprise me if a rivalry between coaching staffs develops sooner than later.He also wants to be relevant. He said in the presser that his recruiters are competing against ours for the same guys. He wants high schools to consider Illinois even if they have offers from Minnesota and Nebraska.. He wants Illinois to be in our tier and fast. I think him saying all this in the presser was just acknowledging that Fleck and Minnesota are a tier above him right now and his program will have to put in the work to catch up.
The Six Degrees of Robb Smith covers all the land of college football in a foul and fetid darkness.True. Robb Smith connects Rossi to Bielema