B1GPAC Conference

[MplsGopher]

Those market numbers are phony.

Wisconsin is more than the Madison market, and OSU is more than the Columbus market. And don't get me started on Penn St.

In the PAC-12, even though UA is in Tucson, more of their fans live in the Phoenix metro.

Another thing to keep in mind, that is very much not hand-waiving:

the percentage of a market that actually cares about college football. It doesn't matter for subscriber fees to the BTN, true. But it does matter for the meat of the TV money, which comes from the Tier 1 rights deal, and that hinges on total viewership that our best games are likely to command.


Just because PHX is rapidly growing up to 5M, doesn't mean that more than 10% (just throwing out a figure) give a rip about college football and would tune in to at least one major game per year.

Lot of Hispanic population that have never viewed an American college football game, and have no desire to do so.


Probably the same type of things applies to a lot of the western markets, unfortunately. Denver, SLC, California, Oregon, Washington ... I feel like all have that same issue. People who live there care more about the outdoors than American football outside the NFL.

 

[alchemy2u]

The simplified revenue calculations do not reflect the true impact of a national conference.

Most of the conference sport networks are just regional channels. The BTN has the midwest and parts of the north east, but gets very little exposure or revenue from the west and south west. The PAC12 get no coverage for a majority of the country. Adding more geography, along with helmet schools adds to the value of the conference network much more than just the revenue they were collecting in their regional conference that only covers a small part of the country. USC vs Michigan for example is a major national game and would draw in viewers from more than just B1GPAC regional footprint.

Combining the PAC12 with the B1G can also be looked at as a defensive move. The BTN is the big kid on the block for now, but the SEC is expanding with some helmet schools and some regional gain. If the SEC somehow grabs the best of the PAC12, then the B1G is locked into a second tier regional school of old football powers. If the B1G combines with the PAC12 they will be the major national conference and locks the SEC into the south east. You can not leave schools like AZ, ASU, Oregon ST, Colorado, California, etc.. out of the combined conference. Those schools will get picked up by the SEC and allow they to be a national conference.

 

[Some guy]

The simplified revenue calculations do not reflect the true impact of a national conference.

Most of the conference sport networks are just regional channels. The BTN has the midwest and parts of the north east, but gets very little exposure or revenue from the west and south west. The PAC12 get no coverage for a majority of the country. Adding more geography, along with helmet schools adds to the value of the conference network much more than just the revenue they were collecting in their regional conference that only covers a small part of the country. USC vs Michigan for example is a major national game and would draw in viewers from more than just B1GPAC regional footprint.

Combining the PAC12 with the B1G can also be looked at as a defensive move. The BTN is the big kid on the block for now, but the SEC is expanding with some helmet schools and some regional gain. If the SEC somehow grabs the best of the PAC12, then the B1G is locked into a second tier regional school of old football powers. If the B1G combines with the PAC12 they will be the major national conference and locks the SEC into the south east. You can not leave schools like AZ, ASU, Oregon ST, Colorado, California, etc.. out of the combined conference. Those schools will get picked up by the SEC and allow they to be a national conference.

Got it. So you think a national conference is more profitable just because. That’s one argument

 

[Gophergrandpa]

Those market numbers are phony.

Wisconsin is more than the Madison market, and OSU is more than the Columbus market. And don't get me started on Penn St.

In the PAC-12, even though UA is in Tucson, more of their fans live in the Phoenix metro.

I suspect that Illinois is more of than the Champaign-Urbana market ... how about Chicago?

 

[bizzle22]

The simplified revenue calculations do not reflect the true impact of a national conference.

Most of the conference sport networks are just regional channels. The BTN has the midwest and parts of the north east, but gets very little exposure or revenue from the west and south west. The PAC12 get no coverage for a majority of the country. Adding more geography, along with helmet schools adds to the value of the conference network much more than just the revenue they were collecting in their regional conference that only covers a small part of the country. USC vs Michigan for example is a major national game and would draw in viewers from more than just B1GPAC regional footprint.

Combining the PAC12 with the B1G can also be looked at as a defensive move. The BTN is the big kid on the block for now, but the SEC is expanding with some helmet schools and some regional gain. If the SEC somehow grabs the best of the PAC12, then the B1G is locked into a second tier regional school of old football powers. If the B1G combines with the PAC12 they will be the major national conference and locks the SEC into the south east. You can not leave schools like AZ, ASU, Oregon ST, Colorado, California, etc.. out of the combined conference. Those schools will get picked up by the SEC and allow they to be a national conference.

If Greg Sankey even hinted at adding Oregon State or California to the SEC the university presidents would fire him on the spot