B1G game 1: Gophers host Maryland 12-7-25

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MNGirlsHoops said:
She can't be healthy.. Or just real indecisive on that foot
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Have to remember this is her 1st big 10 game play since Jan 2024, 2 seasons ago. Almost 2 years and after 2 injuries. Think would help if they could get her roll of screens for her mid jumpers instead of popping out behind the arc always.
 

MNGirlsHoops said:
She can't be healthy.. Or just real indecisive on that foot
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She’s had a lot of missed time. She can come back next year but she might end up at a different program and fit better.

She’s played 64 games to Battle’s 114 and GG’s 80.
 


MaxyJR1 said:
She’s had a lot of missed time. She can come back next year but she might end up at a different program and fit better.

She’s played 64 games to Battle’s 114 and GG’s 80.
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That’s my prediction based on nothing but my dumb opinion… she won’t be back.. Oregon 😳..
 



That’s definitely not money….the telling stat is what she shoots on two point shots.. and her overall shooting percentage.. IMO
 



Roland Brooks said:
That’s definitely not money….the telling stat is what she shoots on two point shots.. and her overall shooting percentage.. IMO
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For comparison, Mara's shooting percentages coming into this year were no worse than Carlie Wagner's through her first three seasons, but I was hoping she'd be able to make the leap Carlie Wagner made her senior year (which helped the Gophers have their last surprisingly decent season).
 

Roland Brooks said:
That’s my prediction based on nothing but my dumb opinion… she won’t be back.. Oregon 😳..
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Definitely can see her at Oregon with her bestie Heyer. Wouldn’t shock me if GG wanted to go someplace new where she can get to the tournament in her last year.
 





I think they can still make the tournament if Braun and Battle can bring their B- game.. lots of mediocrity after the top 20….
 

bball_craz_31 said:
Lastly, there may have been more of an attitude, off-court things going on that turned coaches off about Addi. There were questions about whether she was a good teammate/good locker room addition.
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Everyone who is rabidly pro-Mack should re-read this and really think about what it means.

I also agree on the physicality issue. Now that she's getting so much attention teams will actually have scouting reports on her. She's really not that hard to stop when she plays against people bigger and stronger than her, especially if they bang her up a bit. She avoided it in high school by playing for a small school and leaving her original AAU EYBL team once she hit high school age and the size differential became a problem. It will be shocking to me if she can successfully run the Big10 gauntlet.
 

crazysauce said:
What a choke job
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Roland Brooks said:
I think they can still make the tournament if Braun and Battle can bring their B- game.. lots of mediocrity after the top 20….
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Agree. This loss hurts but U have to learn how to finish. Our veteran leaders Battle, Braun n Hart did not do enough to get the W. Luckily, the players n coaches don’t base anything from this board and realize if they can take MD to OT they have the potential to win some big games.
 

MN GBB Fan said:
Everyone who is rabidly pro-Mack should re-read this and really think about what it means.

I also agree on the physicality issue. Now that she's getting so much attention teams will actually have scouting reports on her. She's really not that hard to stop when she plays against people bigger and stronger than her, especially if they bang her up a bit. She avoided it in high school by playing for a small school and leaving her original AAU EYBL team once she hit high school age and the size differential became a problem. It will be shocking to me if she can successfully run the Big10 gauntlet.
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Well she is off to good start.. she was supposed to the backup and now starting because of injury.. so far has stepped up.. she finished over Braun three times with nice lefts and she guarded Braun a lot…AND they put McKinney on Mack so that should tell you something…. Mack was better than our older more physically mature point guard today.. Our point guard wasn’t even the best point guard on her own team today…
 


drewhaus7 said:
https://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/player/stats/_/id/4858666/mara-braun

Beg to differ, was up to 36.4% 3PT before the injuries her sophomore season. 34.9% freshman year. Caitlin Clark was 37.7% overall for comparison. Has struggled getting to the hoop and getting the easier layups though.
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Not sure I understand the comparison, but effective field goal percentage (EFG%) is the better metric, because it takes into the higher value of the 3 pointer, and implicitly takes into account the volume of 3s vs 2s. Volume is important, especially with someone like Clark who took so many 3s.

In BIG play, Clark’s EFG% her freshman year was 57.3% and her sophomore year was 53.8%. In BIG play, Braun’s EFG% her freshman year was 43.5% and sophomore year was 39.2%. Braun only got to play 9 BIG games her sophomore year, but her efficiency in conference play was quite poor her first two years. She was not in the same ballpark as Clark efficiency wise.
 

Star City said:
For comparison, Mara's shooting percentages coming into this year were no worse than Carlie Wagner's through her first three seasons, but I was hoping she'd be able to make the leap Carlie Wagner made her senior year (which helped the Gophers have their last surprisingly decent season).
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Interesting comparison. I had not remembered that Carlie was also quite inefficient her first 3 years, and that she made a huge leap in EFG% from junior year to senior year, going from 43.5% EFG% to 52.6% EFG%.
 

My observation. It seems that Coach P decided to play Glynn and leave Hart and Tonga out once she got Tori back. I suspect it was to try to match the speed of MD. I didn't understand the reluctance to drive on #7 from mid-4th quarter on when she had 4 fouls. Getting her out of the game would have swung things heavily in MN's favor. Then again, it wasn't easy to trust the refs to actually call the foul on a drive.
 

MN GBB Fan said:
Everyone who is rabidly pro-Mack should re-read this and really think about what it means.

I also agree on the physicality issue. Now that she's getting so much attention teams will actually have scouting reports on her. She's really not that hard to stop when she plays against people bigger and stronger than her, especially if they bang her up a bit. She avoided it in high school by playing for a small school and leaving her original AAU EYBL team once she hit high school age and the size differential became a problem. It will be shocking to me if she can successfully run the Big10 gauntlet.
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She is not hard to stop when she plays against bigger and stronger people? You wanted me to read that crap. She scored 16 pts against us are we small weaklings. She had 8 rebounds. She looks like she is maybe 5 feet tall. Our center Hart only had 6 rebounds. Did you not watch the game? I know nothing about why we did not offer her but to say she can't play against big time competition after this game is equivalent to saying Minnesota really sucks.
Edit: If Brenda thinks she can play big ten basketball I will side with her she has been recuiting great talent for years compared to Dawn.
 
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EaganGopher22 said:
My observation. It seems that Coach P decided to play Glynn and leave Hart and Tonga out once she got Tori back. I suspect it was to try to match the speed of MD.
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I really liked when they went small with 5 guards today. Hopefully this was a good test case to show it could work against other Big Ten opponents when Sophie needs a breather.
 

mngolf said:
Did count yours?
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Is this the question you are referring to? You clearly are special. At least that's what your momma tells you. Clearly basketball isn't your expertise and not so sure English is either.

Quit making a fool of your damn self. If there has ever been a game I have watched where the coaching should seriously be in question that was clearly one of them. And if you don't know that you don't know basketball. SYBAU
 

MaroonMagic said:
I really liked when they went small with 5 guards today. Hopefully this was a good test case to show it could work against other Big Ten opponents when Sophie needs a breather.
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...and when Hart is making less than one-third of her shots in the game, almost all right under the basket. (At this point, she is barely above 50 percent on the entire season, including all of those cupcake opponents.)
 

EaganGopher22 said:
My observation. It seems that Coach P decided to play Glynn and leave Hart and Tonga out once she got Tori back. I suspect it was to try to match the speed of MD. I didn't understand the reluctance to drive on #7 from mid-4th quarter on when she had 4 fouls. Getting her out of the game would have swung things heavily in MN's favor. Then again, it wasn't easy to trust the refs to actually call the foul on a drive.
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we couldn't get a whistle on the drive.. meanwhile if a maryland player was just slightly bumped it was a foul under the basket.. GG's 5th foul wasn't a foul.. she didn't touch her at all she was just off balance because she was trying to draw the foul and threw herself towards Grace..

and #7 should have fouled out at least 3 times... when she tackled Amaya in the 1st OT.. and then when she went over Amaya's back early in the 2nd OT but somehow they called Amaya for a foul..
 

Gophers112233 said:
we couldn't get a whistle on the drive.. meanwhile if a maryland player was just slightly bumped it was a foul under the basket.. GG's 5th foul wasn't a foul.. she didn't touch her at all she was just off balance because she was trying to draw the foul and threw herself towards Grace..

and #7 should have fouled out at least 3 times... when she tackled Amaya in the 1st OT.. and then when she went over Amaya's back early in the 2nd OT but somehow they called Amaya for a foul..
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Brenda is a master of working the officials. The better teams already get the benefit of the doubt. Overall, we shot a lot of FT’s. As bad as we handled the press today we needed more from our veterans .
 

thatjanelpick said:
...and when Hart is making less than one-third of her shots in the game, almost all right under the basket. (At this point, she is barely above 50 percent on the entire season, including all of those cupcake opponents.)
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Long past time for Hart to start making the easier shots. Last year, Senior, probably last time playing basketball competitively. Time for her Hart to step up her game. Hart's shooting percentage not good for a player touching the ball that much. Braun has been a poor shooter this year too.
 


Gophers shot 20 more free throws; god I still can't believe we lost this game. Also not fun when my twitter is only showing people talking about this disaster of a game.

I also liked the small ball lineup - even though we got burned on defense a few times.
 

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