Her physicality may be an issue, maybe not. But they sure could of used her speed and quickness yesterday. Too often our players look like they're playing in slow motion. We could use some quick jumpers too.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an alternative browser.
You should upgrade or use an alternative browser.
B1G game 1: Gophers host Maryland 12-7-25
- Thread starter Ignatius L Hoops
- Start date
Lots of players can score 20+ points a game, if their coach let's them fire 25 shots a game. Good coaches let the high percentage shooters take open shots. Poor coaches let home town favs jack unlimited shots to keep them happy.She was never money… Lisa Bluder called it Braun is a volume shooter….
So now we're blaming the refs? How Minnesotan!we couldn't get a whistle on the drive.. meanwhile if a maryland player was just slightly bumped it was a foul under the basket.. GG's 5th foul wasn't a foul.. she didn't touch her at all she was just off balance because she was trying to draw the foul and threw herself towards Grace..
and #7 should have fouled out at least 3 times... when she tackled Amaya in the 1st OT.. and then when she went over Amaya's back early in the 2nd OT but somehow they called Amaya for a foul..
TRUTH = You need to understand Minnesota sports. Minnesotians would rather lose with Minnesota players playing, than win with the more talented non-Minnesota players playing. That's a big reason why our sport teams always suck. Thank goodness Dawn P and GG were able to come here from Wisconsin to try to help us out.Can we please run an offense that features Tori and GG. Please Braun, Battle and Hart should not be featured in our offense.
Gopher Mac
Well-known member
- Joined
- Dec 15, 2024
- Messages
- 327
- Reaction score
- 507
- Points
- 93
Yes the refs flavored Minnesota. 40 fouls called on Maryland only 20 fouls called on Minnesota.So now we're blaming the refs? How Minnesotan!
bball_craz_31
Well-known member
- Joined
- Mar 31, 2016
- Messages
- 867
- Reaction score
- 1,196
- Points
- 93
I figured this would be a fun board to read through after that game. (says sarcastically)
This might be long…
Look, there is not a lot to be said about it. That was a gut punch like no other. Multiple times, they had the game wrapped up…only to lose it. There was A LOT of good in this game. Sadly, there was likely a lot of negative or bad as well.
Let’s start from the top. The Coaching.
I will say this: execution and timeout calling are going to get a lot of (rightfully so) scrutiny. However, I feel for the coaches in the sense is they got burned on both sides of the timeout situation. Earlier in the game, in regulation, had used a timeout maybe sooner than should have, and then didn’t have one to avoid a 5-second inbound call. Then, in the final meltdown, used it my opinion one play too late. I’m guessing that the earlier issue with the 5-second played into waiting, presumably too late to call the timeout in double OT. Both are deserving of questions and issues… but they truly were burned on both ends there.
Point Guard Play. Especially Amaya. Wow. I feel like this game alone shows the utter brilliance and justifiable frustration that comes with Amaya Battle. The game mostly takes poor long twos, not looking to attack the basket, and floating out there. Actually, benched a few times for Glenn to come in. Probably was, with Tori out basically the 3rd quarter, we didn’t have the option to put Amaya on the bench. That also was when we needed Amaya to show senior leadership, and IMO she didn’t. It’s why the 3rd allowed the Terps to claw back and make it nip and tuck. However, then in the biggest moments, Amaya shows she can get to the basket at will and scores the and-1 to get us to overtime. She felt more aggressive, looking to get to the rim from then on and in overtime. But we needed it sooner. And to put a bow on it… Her late turnovers, actually, frankly a lot of her turnovers were lazy, readable passes or the arrant one to end set up the game-winning bucket for Maryland. She did put up double figures for the first time this year and was big on rebounds… but we truly get the full yin and yang and brilliance and utter frustration in this game.
I feel this has been clear for a while, and yesterday was the prime example cementing that Tori McKinney is our best and most valuable player on this team. She is excellent on both sides of the ball. Honestly, as stated, her being out in the 3rdwith illness issues showed how much we needed her. For the people saying Mack fried us or had a good game, she scored technically 6 points with Tori as her defender. She got rolling in the 3rd quarter…when Tori was on the bench or in the Locker room. Even looking at the 6 points, 2 were valid. Her only 3-point make came with a missed moving pick from their post that got Tori off, and then her 1 ft late in the first OT came off Poffenberger body checked Tori on a screen into Mack, and the refs called Tori instead of the correct moving pick again. So to confirm for those Mack lovers… She did have a good game… as long as Tori was on the bench or in the locker room. Also, that missed moving pick was Tori’s 4thfoul, and I stand by her 5th in the collapse was a charge. WBB doesn’t use the charge circle. She was set. Both of those calls are crap.
Frankly, I have little to no issues with Grace or Glenn. Were they ungodly perfect, no. But the heart and hustle and play were there, especially with Grace doing everything she could. Her fouling out, along with Tori took our best two players out IMO. Maybe our two highest basketball IQ’s as well.
Mara Braun showed some of the most fire I have ever seen in her Career yesterday. She wanted it more than anyone. She had big moments, but her shots wouldn’t fall. I feel she rushed the very last one and could have maybe dribbled in a few and gotten a closer look. Mara I'm guessing is feeling the weight of the world on her shoulders. She is not free from critique, but you can see she is trying to get back to better play. She is giving everything she has imo. Whether it’s enough or not is up for debate.
My last few thoughts. I think Nia could have had more minutes. She is athletic. There were a couple of rebounds up for grabs that Maryland got to simply because they could outrun Sophie and Tonga. Nia could have provided more athleticism.
The response from this will tell us a lot about this team. Even the next three could go south if their spirits and energy are broken from this. No one has to agree. But there is a lot of good that was shown in this game. Winning the next three convincingly, and then I feel at Indiana is winnable but won’t be easy. This was an awful feeling, and this response will show if we have any fight left in us imo.
This might be long…
Look, there is not a lot to be said about it. That was a gut punch like no other. Multiple times, they had the game wrapped up…only to lose it. There was A LOT of good in this game. Sadly, there was likely a lot of negative or bad as well.
Let’s start from the top. The Coaching.
I will say this: execution and timeout calling are going to get a lot of (rightfully so) scrutiny. However, I feel for the coaches in the sense is they got burned on both sides of the timeout situation. Earlier in the game, in regulation, had used a timeout maybe sooner than should have, and then didn’t have one to avoid a 5-second inbound call. Then, in the final meltdown, used it my opinion one play too late. I’m guessing that the earlier issue with the 5-second played into waiting, presumably too late to call the timeout in double OT. Both are deserving of questions and issues… but they truly were burned on both ends there.
Point Guard Play. Especially Amaya. Wow. I feel like this game alone shows the utter brilliance and justifiable frustration that comes with Amaya Battle. The game mostly takes poor long twos, not looking to attack the basket, and floating out there. Actually, benched a few times for Glenn to come in. Probably was, with Tori out basically the 3rd quarter, we didn’t have the option to put Amaya on the bench. That also was when we needed Amaya to show senior leadership, and IMO she didn’t. It’s why the 3rd allowed the Terps to claw back and make it nip and tuck. However, then in the biggest moments, Amaya shows she can get to the basket at will and scores the and-1 to get us to overtime. She felt more aggressive, looking to get to the rim from then on and in overtime. But we needed it sooner. And to put a bow on it… Her late turnovers, actually, frankly a lot of her turnovers were lazy, readable passes or the arrant one to end set up the game-winning bucket for Maryland. She did put up double figures for the first time this year and was big on rebounds… but we truly get the full yin and yang and brilliance and utter frustration in this game.
I feel this has been clear for a while, and yesterday was the prime example cementing that Tori McKinney is our best and most valuable player on this team. She is excellent on both sides of the ball. Honestly, as stated, her being out in the 3rdwith illness issues showed how much we needed her. For the people saying Mack fried us or had a good game, she scored technically 6 points with Tori as her defender. She got rolling in the 3rd quarter…when Tori was on the bench or in the Locker room. Even looking at the 6 points, 2 were valid. Her only 3-point make came with a missed moving pick from their post that got Tori off, and then her 1 ft late in the first OT came off Poffenberger body checked Tori on a screen into Mack, and the refs called Tori instead of the correct moving pick again. So to confirm for those Mack lovers… She did have a good game… as long as Tori was on the bench or in the locker room. Also, that missed moving pick was Tori’s 4thfoul, and I stand by her 5th in the collapse was a charge. WBB doesn’t use the charge circle. She was set. Both of those calls are crap.
Frankly, I have little to no issues with Grace or Glenn. Were they ungodly perfect, no. But the heart and hustle and play were there, especially with Grace doing everything she could. Her fouling out, along with Tori took our best two players out IMO. Maybe our two highest basketball IQ’s as well.
Mara Braun showed some of the most fire I have ever seen in her Career yesterday. She wanted it more than anyone. She had big moments, but her shots wouldn’t fall. I feel she rushed the very last one and could have maybe dribbled in a few and gotten a closer look. Mara I'm guessing is feeling the weight of the world on her shoulders. She is not free from critique, but you can see she is trying to get back to better play. She is giving everything she has imo. Whether it’s enough or not is up for debate.
My last few thoughts. I think Nia could have had more minutes. She is athletic. There were a couple of rebounds up for grabs that Maryland got to simply because they could outrun Sophie and Tonga. Nia could have provided more athleticism.
The response from this will tell us a lot about this team. Even the next three could go south if their spirits and energy are broken from this. No one has to agree. But there is a lot of good that was shown in this game. Winning the next three convincingly, and then I feel at Indiana is winnable but won’t be easy. This was an awful feeling, and this response will show if we have any fight left in us imo.
Gopher Mac
Well-known member
- Joined
- Dec 15, 2024
- Messages
- 327
- Reaction score
- 507
- Points
- 93
W
Well stated I do think Glenn needs to play more.I figured this would be a fun board to read through after that game. (says sarcastically)
This might be long…
Look, there is not a lot to be said about it. That was a gut punch like no other. Multiple times, they had the game wrapped up…only to lose it. There was A LOT of good in this game. Sadly, there was likely a lot of negative or bad as well.
Let’s start from the top. The Coaching.
I will say this: execution and timeout calling are going to get a lot of (rightfully so) scrutiny. However, I feel for the coaches in the sense is they got burned on both sides of the timeout situation. Earlier in the game, in regulation, had used a timeout maybe sooner than should have, and then didn’t have one to avoid a 5-second inbound call. Then, in the final meltdown, used it my opinion one play too late. I’m guessing that the earlier issue with the 5-second played into waiting, presumably too late to call the timeout in double OT. Both are deserving of questions and issues… but they truly were burned on both ends there.
Point Guard Play. Especially Amaya. Wow. I feel like this game alone shows the utter brilliance and justifiable frustration that comes with Amaya Battle. The game mostly takes poor long twos, not looking to attack the basket, and floating out there. Actually, benched a few times for Glenn to come in. Probably was, with Tori out basically the 3rd quarter, we didn’t have the option to put Amaya on the bench. That also was when we needed Amaya to show senior leadership, and IMO she didn’t. It’s why the 3rd allowed the Terps to claw back and make it nip and tuck. However, then in the biggest moments, Amaya shows she can get to the basket at will and scores the and-1 to get us to overtime. She felt more aggressive, looking to get to the rim from then on and in overtime. But we needed it sooner. And to put a bow on it… Her late turnovers, actually, frankly a lot of her turnovers were lazy, readable passes or the arrant one to end set up the game-winning bucket for Maryland. She did put up double figures for the first time this year and was big on rebounds… but we truly get the full yin and yang and brilliance and utter frustration in this game.
I feel this has been clear for a while, and yesterday was the prime example cementing that Tori McKinney is our best and most valuable player on this team. She is excellent on both sides of the ball. Honestly, as stated, her being out in the 3rdwith illness issues showed how much we needed her. For the people saying Mack fried us or had a good game, she scored technically 6 points with Tori as her defender. She got rolling in the 3rd quarter…when Tori was on the bench or in the Locker room. Even looking at the 6 points, 2 were valid. Her only 3-point make came with a missed moving pick from their post that got Tori off, and then her 1 ft late in the first OT came off Poffenberger body checked Tori on a screen into Mack, and the refs called Tori instead of the correct moving pick again. So to confirm for those Mack lovers… She did have a good game… as long as Tori was on the bench or in the locker room. Also, that missed moving pick was Tori’s 4thfoul, and I stand by her 5th in the collapse was a charge. WBB doesn’t use the charge circle. She was set. Both of those calls are crap.
Frankly, I have little to no issues with Grace or Glenn. Were they ungodly perfect, no. But the heart and hustle and play were there, especially with Grace doing everything she could. Her fouling out, along with Tori took our best two players out IMO. Maybe our two highest basketball IQ’s as well.
Mara Braun showed some of the most fire I have ever seen in her Career yesterday. She wanted it more than anyone. She had big moments, but her shots wouldn’t fall. I feel she rushed the very last one and could have maybe dribbled in a few and gotten a closer look. Mara I'm guessing is feeling the weight of the world on her shoulders. She is not free from critique, but you can see she is trying to get back to better play. She is giving everything she has imo. Whether it’s enough or not is up for debate.
My last few thoughts. I think Nia could have had more minutes. She is athletic. There were a couple of rebounds up for grabs that Maryland got to simply because they could outrun Sophie and Tonga. Nia could have provided more athleticism.
The response from this will tell us a lot about this team. Even the next three could go south if their spirits and energy are broken from this. No one has to agree. But there is a lot of good that was shown in this game. Winning the next three convincingly, and then I feel at Indiana is winnable but won’t be easy. This was an awful feeling, and this response will show if we have any fight left in us imo.
bball_craz_31: Agree with you regarding Tori, Grace, and Glenn. They were our 3 best players yesterday. Glenn has been a terrific addition to the team. Regarding Mara, I'd rather see some intelligent play instead of "fire". Shooting 3 for 20 shows a lack of judgement. Some days you just don't have it, and you concentrate on other areas of your game instead. You just don't keep throwing it up. I am not sure I saw the utter brilliance of Battle's game. She made the big play at the end of regulation, yes, and she made her free throws. But a point guard should protect the ball rather than cave under pressure. Seven turnovers is simply too many. The next month will tell the story.