Attendance?

Very good crowd yesterday. Loud and present. Not sure how anyone thought otherwise?

Great crowd! I am sure we were missing a few because of the opening of deer season but the crowd was into the game.
 

I go to the games. Whether others do or not is out of my hands, so I don't worry about it.
 

I was at the NDSU game yesterday. I know, I know, but a good friend has season tickets and invited me up months ago. They're the number one team in FCS, sell out the season well before it even starts, and traditionally have a pretty intense fan base. There were at least a few thousand empty seats in the Fargodome (weird place to see a game by the way) and I heard some people say they couldn't give tickets away, and the primary reason is the start of hunting season.

I suspect the Bison have a higher percentage of ticket holders that deer hunt, but the actual numbers might not be that far off. I know that leaving town on Friday night to go up there, traffic was horrendous on 94 almost all the way to St. Cloud. For a lot of people, it's a pretty significant tradition, and that's not going to change for anything, no matter how good the Gophers are.
 

Right now the U has two problems with attendance. Problem #1: Fans not showing up. Let's face it...they're were still way too many empty seats for what was the biggest game of the season up to this point. Yeah yeah...too cold, too early, blah blah blah...the U really needs to get butts in the seats. Problem #2: The fans that do show up! Let's face it...the fans in the good seats are too old, too quiet, and too ready to leave as soon as they can. How can we ever get a decent home field advantage when it's damn near impossible to make enough noise with half the fans sitting on their hands? I'm watching the Alabama/LSU game tonight and EVERYBODY in the stands are into this game. I know there's no good solution to this issue, but at some point something needs to be done!!!
You're comparing us to Alabama. I mean....come on.
 

How is 96% of capacity "No Even Close" to a sell out? I hate the media in the Twin Cities.

Tickets sold =/= actual attendance. There were a lot of empty seats. As evident by the fact that my group of three didn't have seats together, but we found an empty row, sat down, and were never asked to move all game.
 



Tickets sold =/= actual attendance. There were a lot of empty seats. As evident by the fact that my group of three didn't have seats together, but we found an empty row, sat down, and were never asked to move all game.

True, and what college or pro team doesn't announce tickets sold? A Penn State P.R. guy told me yesterday that PSU announces, the way the Gophers use to at the Dome, everybody who got into Happy Valley. Bus drivers, bands, E.M.T, anybody who walks into that stadium is counted into their giant numbers. Including all ticket holders who show-up for big games only.

Why, if you're familiar with Buckyville, you'd have read many threads becrying Season Tickets holders who don't show-up and a student section that's filled for half a game if that. :eek:

Oh, and on you and your buddies stealing seats? Next time let an usher know that he needs to escort you out of TCF. Public service for Badger fans. :cool:
 

Tickets sold =/= actual attendance. There were a lot of empty seats. As evident by the fact that my group of three didn't have seats together, but we found an empty row, sat down, and were never asked to move all game.

Not sure how this argues against what GophersinPhilly said. It's called a "sell out", meaning sold tickets. If you sell every single ticket but only 80% of the people show up, it is still called a sell out. The actual attendance would just be bad.
 

I think most teams announce tickets sold or some variation of the theme. However the tickets sold or distributed disparity to actual attendance is quite glaring at most games and leaves the U of M open to criticism.
 



True, and what college or pro team doesn't announce tickets sold? A Penn State P.R. guy told me yesterday that PSU announces, the way the Gophers use to at the Dome, everybody who got into Happy Valley. Bus drivers, bands, E.M.T, anybody who walks into that stadium is counted into their giant numbers. Including all ticket holders who show-up for big games only.

Why, if you're familiar with Buckyville, you'd have read many threads becrying Season Tickets holders who don't show-up and a student section that's filled for half a game if that. :eek:

Oh, and on you and your buddies stealing seats? Next time let an usher know that he needs to escort you out of TCF. Public service for Badger fans. :cool:

Yes, I'll be sure and remember that :confused:

Good marketing by the U thought to make the empty seats maroon and gold. Much less obvious than the blue chairs at the metrodome.
 

Yes, I'll be sure and remember that :confused:

Good marketing by the U thought to make the empty seats maroon and gold. Much less obvious than the blue chairs at the metrodome.

I would imagine that your seat is brown. Skid marks are not very attractive and you seem like the type of person that would have lots of skid marks. You may even have butt cleavage. Toilet paper is not that expensive.


Go Gophers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

From my ESPN2 vantage point, people were still streaming into TCF Bank Stadium well into the 1st quarter. There was no sense of urgency for these fans to show up on time for kickoff. Yet they showed up, so this is a good thing. Consistent winning will improve their punctuality and sense of urgency. Once we were in the 2nd and 3rd quarters, when they panned the north side seats and the bowl end, it appeared that sections 225 and 226 were both half full. For a game not full of Hawkeye, Cornhusker, or Badger fans, this is the most full I have seen TCF Bank Stadium on TV since the game against USAFA. For once, sections 125 and 126 appeared full. By the middle of the 4th quarter, people were bailing out of the stadium. Apparently the wind and cold got the better of them even though the game was far from being in the bag. I did not stop biting my nails until about 2:49 left to go in the 4th quarter. Promotions are not going to help too much. They are just band aids. What cures attendance is consistent winning. It may take two consecutive winning Big Ten seasons to consistenly sell out TCF Bank Stadium. The axiom is not, "If you build it they will come." The axiom is, "If you keep winning, they will come." We just have to be patient. A dying and / or dead fan base is not resurrected overnight.
 

I don't think attendance is cured by winning. Promotions and appropriately priced tickets meet the "supply v demand" side of the equation. Season tickets are too expensive, and the ones scooped up by brokers are thus too expensive for them to make a profit given the recent quality of the team (I outlined the basics in another thread). Tickets not sold already for the PSU game were oftentimes single seats, not optimal for couples or families to buy and attend, and even then the price was too high to attract newcomers who hadn't already considered earlier in the year.

Winning helps create an atmosphere, the punctuality, the dedication in poor weather or in a down year or against a poor opponent or when the game is in hand and people want to leave early. But I don't think winning is the only answer to many of the issues we have for actually getting butts in the seats at some point. Better marketing and pricing/packages can do that. They're just.. not doing it right now.
 



I don't think attendance is cured by winning. Promotions and appropriately priced tickets meet the "supply v demand" side of the equation. Season tickets are too expensive, and the ones scooped up by brokers are thus too expensive for them to make a profit given the recent quality of the team (I outlined the basics in another thread). Tickets not sold already for the PSU game were oftentimes single seats, not optimal for couples or families to buy and attend, and even then the price was too high to attract newcomers who hadn't already considered earlier in the year.

Winning helps create an atmosphere, the punctuality, the dedication in poor weather or in a down year or against a poor opponent or when the game is in hand and people want to leave early. But I don't think winning is the only answer to many of the issues we have for actually getting butts in the seats at some point. Better marketing and pricing/packages can do that. They're just.. not doing it right now.

Better pricing? Season tickets are not that expensive.
 




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