AT WHAT POINT DO YOU SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

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bga1 said:
It just seems like we finally get high end QBs (Brosmer and Lindsay) and we have nothing to go with them.
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Agree.
We have like 4 number 3 wideouts but no ones or twos.
The tight ends are decent but not good enough to be the featured WR

Offense feels listless.
The tight ends are good enough to be great play action tight ends. But we can’t run the ball so that doesn’t work.

Major problems
 

The older I get the less I want to have sports fandom consume my Saturdays and Sundays. Too many other things to do on weekends. I’ll leave the hard core cheering to the youngsters.
 

Fleck is a 60% winner, better than 13 previous coaches going back to 1941, and he does it with 2 and 3* players. 60% is an average of about 7 wins a year. If he had 4 and 5* players he'd likely win an average of 9 games a year or better. Recruiting is the problem - why isn't Emmett Johnson playing for the Gophers, to give one example?
 

Great Plains Gopher said:
Fleck is a 60% winner, better than 13 previous coaches going back to 1941, and he does it with 2 and 3* players. 60% is an average of about 7 wins a year. If he had 4 and 5* players he'd likely win an average of 9 games a year or better. Recruiting is the problem - why isn't Emmett Johnson playing for the Gophers, to give one example?
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Emmit Johnson would be the third or fourth back for the gophers

Unfortunately that means he’d be starting

Damn
 

Panthadad2 said:
Just speculating, but the U leadership is extremely risk averse now when it comes to scandal. The University has an extremely short leash culturally in this market. To his credit, Fleck excels on this point.

Idiot Maturi handed the reigns to a fat ass introvert former coordinator with questionable leadership skills which opened the door for the nasty 2016 scandal. I'm sure that is still fresh in leadership's mind.

The basketball team went through two high profile scandals and has generally sucked since the last one. Stuff like Gangelhoff-gate would never have been reported in a lot of markets, but it's a sure thing here.

As long as the athletics department keeps its head above water financially and stays clean, I'm sure leadership is just fine with that.
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Sounds like those matters have contributed to the low interest in winning sports. Those are recent, however, at least to a codger like me. I see the sinking of Gopher FB as having begun in the 60s.
 


Actually, I’m good with the state of the program and don’t want to see it change for a long time.

I’m sure that I’ve said, at some point in my life, that I could die a happy man if the Gophers won a national championship, and I’m not ready to go yet.
 

Great Plains Gopher said:
Fleck is a 60% winner, better than 13 previous coaches going back to 1941, and he does it with 2 and 3* players. 60% is an average of about 7 wins a year. If he had 4 and 5* players he'd likely win an average of 9 games a year or better. Recruiting is the problem - why isn't Emmett Johnson playing for the Gophers, to give one example?
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Yes, recruiting is the cure. Why don't enough 4 and 5 star players want to come to Minneapolis? That's the question few here want to consider. Why not? Do we ask recruits who pick other schools why? Kinda like businesses do with exit interviews. I think you are right about being a 7 win program -- a little better on good years. A little worse on bad. And that limit comes from the inability to recruit well.
 

DEGopherfan said:
These are still 19 and 20 year old kids, they get super up for one game — Nebraska — beat the pants off of them, think they deserve to be rated and let down their intensity in the next game. They simply didn’t show up. We see this often. It’s on the coaches. They’ll rebound.
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If Iowa is considered by UM to be the top or second most important rivalry, how could the players not be intense? You could see on the first drive of the game that Iowa was more skilled than UM. Intensity was not an issue. They just simply have better football players. Nothing shameful about that. It just is. As to Nebraska, they weren't more skilled.
 




B4 the season, I predicted 8-4 which is about right. Recruiting? Let’s face it, Minnesota has a big disadvantage versus states like Florida, Texas, Georgia, Ohio, Pennsylvania and California where high school football is big time.
 



Why do you think that Gophers can’t raise enough money for NiL?
 



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