All Things Rakeem Buckles Thread

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Johnnyboy18 said:
Any one else worried about chronic knee issues?
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We currently have 3 open scholarships next year. Chances are at least one will go unfilled/be given to a walk-on. There's almost no risk.
 

Cayman said:
I hope (and think) this was a joke.

Also, couldn't Mo or Oto play the 4? I realize they wouldn't be popular choices, but I think they could play the position.
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My bad, Reid Travis. Dumb mistake to make.
 

MadtownGopher said:
My bad, Reid Travis. Dumb mistake to make.
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It's all good, it just bothers me a bit sometimes when I see posters repeatedly refer to players or sometimes recruits by the wrong name i.e. Tyrus Jones, Julian Welsh etc.

ALSO RICH PITINO CLOSEUP + GOPHER MENTION!!

I can now justify having watched this game. :)

Also Looavull wins.
 

howieramone said:
I believe he will leave shortly. I felt the same way if we had brought the kid in from Arizona State last year. Getting beat out is one thing, having them bring in an outsider to take your spot is another. For those who have never played or coached, it might be hard to understand the difference.That said, I could care less if he leaves. I think Joe has reached his peak. I felt Wally, Buggs, or Ellis would beat him out sometime next season.
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Why pick on Joe? Has he ever given any indication he will transfer? I completely disagree with your post. He has improved significantly every year. He now has a spot up jumper he can hit. Everything I have read indicates he is a gym rat who works constantly to improve.

Some *&^%$%^* on GH posts Joe will quit and people are mad at Joe. Complete BS.

I normally like your posts - not this one.
 

Gopher in Texas said:
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Why pick on Joe? Has he ever given any indication he will transfer? I completely disagree with your post. He has improved significantly every year. He now has a spot up jumper he can hit. Everything I have read indicates he is a gym rat who works constantly to improve.

Some *&^%$%^* on GH posts Joe will quit and people are mad at Joe. Complete BS.

I normally like your posts - not this one.
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I remember there being a very little bit of talk that he would transfer at the end of the 2011-12 season, but obviously that didn't happen, and I would be surprised if he transferred this off-season.
 


Cayman said:
I hope (and think) this was a joke.

Also, couldn't Mo or Oto play the 4? I realize they wouldn't be popular choices, but I think they could play the position.
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Mo- He might be to unconditioned and slow to play Center in Pitino's new system according to Marcus Fuller, so how would sliding down to power forward somehow work? They have to be even more conditioned and nimble! I still like Mo as backup Center though.

Oto- Common now... Oto might be a really nice kid, but if you've seen him play, it's a big enough sample size to know he cant compete in the big ten. Lowest FG % on team by far, has no feel for the game, and is unconfident.

I definitely feel your ideas about finding some other options at forward, but I think Buckles and Buggs (possibly) are the only options as far as starting forwards go this next season.
 

We all need to remember the comment from Norm on Cheers. "It's a dog eat dog world, and I'm wearing Milk Bone underwear."
 

I'm only excited about this because I'll get to say the name "Rakeem Buckles" more often.
 

B1GSportsGuy said:
I don't understand why MN Gopher fans are so excited to get sloppy seconds (or thirds) from a Sun Belt school?
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No kidding. I mean, look at how much it backfired for Duke who got sloppy seconds from a Big South Conference school.
 





Johnnyboy18 said:
His brother handed him that scholarship.
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So? The point is good players from Sun Belt and Big South level conferences can do well in top conferences like the ACC and Big Ten. Nothing wrong with being excited about potentially getting a good player.
 




KyGopherfan said:
Is that ethical? Not sure I know many instances where a coach allows a player signed to his former team to follow him to his new job. I'm not sure if it's an unwritten rule in the coaching fraternity or not, but I just don't remember many examples of this. Even slimy Calipari wouldn't take his Memphis recruits and players to Kentucky.
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You must not be familiar with John Wall or DeMarcus Cousins.

Sorry if this was meant to be sarcastic. I couldn't tell.
 

Gopher Warrior said:
Here's why Buckles playing for Minnesota in 2013-14 is doubtful: Pitino, Gophers Could Put Bad Rule to Good Use in 2013-14 [Recruiting]
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That doesn't take into consideration his coach leaving though. Isn't that a scenario where a player can be eligible immediately?

Regardless, it might be better that he wait. Allows him to fully recover from ACL, and also will be part of likely a better team.

We won't be competing for much this year IMO, so his one year will likely be better utilized in 2014-15.
 


joshvanklomp said:
That doesn't take into consideration his coach leaving though. Isn't that a scenario where a player can be eligible immediately?

Regardless, it might be better that he wait. Allows him to fully recover from ACL, and also will be part of likely a better team.

We won't be competing for much this year IMO, so his one year will likely be better utilized in 2014-15.
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If he is healthy and ready to play this year, I think we could be pretty good. Could very well have an equally good season as the one we just had. Who knows, maybe even better?
 

OK, I have a question for the board. If Wisky can get a last year eligible grad student for their qb, can and should we get a last year eligible pg to lead our Gophers?
 

B1GSportsGuy said:
I don't understand why MN Gopher fans are so excited to get sloppy seconds (or thirds) from a Sun Belt school?
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I'm guessing Louisville had fans like you who thought the same way when they got sloppy seconds from a school in the Colonial. Some guy named Luke Hancock...
 

Gopher Warrior said:
Here's why Buckles playing for Minnesota in 2013-14 is doubtful: Pitino, Gophers Could Put Bad Rule to Good Use in 2013-14 [Recruiting]
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GW asked in article said:
If anyone has examples of situations that were similar, please let us know as we are unaware of any.
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Wouldn't Travis Busch be an example of a guy who started at one school (Cal-Poly), transfered and graduated from a second school (MN), only to transfer to a third school (CSU) as a grad student to be eligible right away??

Brandon Wood started at Southern Illinois, went to a JUCO, then to Valpo (where he graduated), only to end up at Michigan State as an eligible grad student/player right away.

I think Kenny Cooper started at Oklahoma State, transfered to LA Tech (where he graduated) and then used the grad rule to be eligible right away at UAB.
 

Johnnyboy18 said:
His brother handed him that scholarship.
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What's your point?

You're arguing that Steph Curry is the reason why Seth Curry has a scholarship at Duke?
I'm just going to make a list of why this is a bizarre argument:
(1) Steph Curry didn't go to Duke.
(2) Seth Curry was good at Duke (you'd think this argument would be made had Seth been a failure at Duke).
(3) Seth Curry was REALLY good at Liberty.
 

And Steph Curry had a brother who could pay his college expenses for him, hence a scholarship of some kind?
 

tj - thanks for those. Some of it is timing (one-time exception is relatively new - was all under a waiver previously), some of it is not.

The article is UPDATED and wording made far more gentle after some post-National Championship game research.

I'll agree with the "either way wouldn't surprise me" sentiment expressed in this thread.
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
What's your point?

You're arguing that Steph Curry is the reason why Seth Curry has a scholarship at Duke?
I'm just going to make a list of why this is a bizarre argument:
(1) Steph Curry didn't go to Duke.
(2) Seth Curry was good at Duke (you'd think this argument would be made had Seth been a failure at Duke).
(3) Seth Curry was REALLY good at Liberty.
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To further your point: Seth Curry ended up 2nd team all ACC this year, averaging more than 17 pts/game and he did so with a stress fracture in his chin all season long. He was 3rd team all ACC the previous year. I'd say that's pretty much scholarship-worthy, wouldn't you?
 


joshvanklomp said:
That doesn't take into consideration his coach leaving though. Isn't that a scenario where a player can be eligible immediately?

Regardless, it might be better that he wait. Allows him to fully recover from ACL, and also will be part of likely a better team.

We won't be competing for much this year IMO, so his one year will likely be better utilized in 2014-15.
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I thought i read his last acl injury was january 2012. Is that off?
 

Gophers09 said:
I thought i read his last acl injury was january 2012. Is that off?
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Mid-January 2012 is correct - game against Marquette. The thought immediately though was that he'd be out for a looong time because it was a second ACL injury, but to a different knee.

Minnesota saw Trevor come back the following season after having surgery in late December 2011 and AD did what he did for the Vikings, but Buckles has the unfortunate circumstance of having had an ACL tear in both knees. When Rakeem went down in January 2012 the prospects of him coming back in 2012-13 were essentially dismissed.

Whether he winds up with the Gophers or elsewhere, getting on the court and competing at a high level would be a nice story of strength and perseverance on the kid's part.
 

Pewterschmidt said:
To further your point: Seth Curry ended up 2nd team all ACC this year, averaging more than 17 pts/game and he did so with a stress fracture in his chin all season long. He was 3rd team all ACC the previous year. I'd say that's pretty much scholarship-worthy, wouldn't you?
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Now that's an injury I've never heard of before! ;)
 

Was doing a little research on NCAA Transfer rules and came across this.

Five-year clock — If you play at a Division I school, you
have five-calendar years in which to play four seasons of
competition. Your five-year clock starts when you enroll
as a full-time student at any college. Thereafter, your
clock continues, even if you spend an academic year in
residence as a result of transferring, decide to red shirt,
if you do not attend school or even if you go part-time
during your college career.

Would this mean that Buckles would have to play this upcoming season and couldn't be eligible the following...or is there some other stipulation that would allow this 5-Year Clock to become moot?
 

Ls2 said:
Was doing a little research on NCAA Transfer rules and came across this.

Five-year clock — If you play at a Division I school, you
have five-calendar years in which to play four seasons of
competition. Your five-year clock starts when you enroll
as a full-time student at any college. Thereafter, your
clock continues, even if you spend an academic year in
residence as a result of transferring, decide to red shirt,
if you do not attend school or even if you go part-time
during your college career.

Would this mean that Buckles would have to play this upcoming season and couldn't be eligible the following...or is there some other stipulation that would allow this 5-Year Clock to become moot?
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You can get a 6th year waiver a la Trevor.
 

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