All things Quentin Snider

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Tim1406 said:
Correct me If I'm wrong but isn't tweeting a recruit a NCAA rules violation? I would highly advise against any fans tweeting recruits. If you are not a media member or a coach I would stay out of it and keep the team we follow safe from penalties. Trust that Pitino doesn't need our help besides a good show of support for him and the team we have.
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You're right, Tim. Message boards like this are the perfect spot for expressing your love for a prospective student-athlete to other fans. Directly tweeting or messaging a prospective student-athlete is a bad idea.
 

Tim1406 said:
Well actually any direct contact initiated by fans is considered a violation(looked up to make sure). It's not against the players eligibility it would be taken out in sanctions against the school if the NCAA really wanted to(often times they don't and or they don't have the manpower to police it.)

@madman,
My sister is a women's basketball coach so I know some of these things. Sorry you don't respect the institutions well enough to follow the rules set forth by them. I'll be quiet now. carry on like i didn't say anything.
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Well, Oklahoma actually encourages that fans tweet recruits, and nothing is happening to them. Tweeting at a recruit is a great way to show the player the love for the recruit from our fan base
and that they should consider Minnesota! Everyone in the process, including fans, recruits, reporters, and even some coaches seem to get a kick out of it, and it's one of the more enjoyable lighthearted parts of the process. Others with a more negative mindset get all anal about it, just like all the other little things.
Just lay off and have a little fun, if the NCAA gave two $hits about it they would monitor the recruit's twitters and penalize every school who's team's fans tweeted or got retweeted by a recruit. And obviously that's never happened, so it's not a punishable violation to this point.
 


GameDay said:
Well, Oklahoma actually encourages that fans tweet recruits, and nothing is happening to them. Tweeting at a recruit is a great way to show the player the love for the recruit from our fan base
and that they should consider Minnesota! Everyone in the process, including fans, recruits, reporters, and even some coaches seem to get a kick out of it, and it's one of the more enjoyable lighthearted parts of the process. Others with a more negative mindset get all anal about it, just like all the other little things.
Just lay off and have a little fun, if the NCAA gave two $hits about it they would monitor the recruit's twitters and penalize every school who's team's fans tweeted or got retweeted by a recruit. And obviously that's never happened, so it's not a punishable violation to this point.
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Oklahoma does not encourage fans to do so. If they openly did they'd be in trouble. The words of Coach Stoops in a recent interview could be taken as him encouraging fans to tweet recruits, although he didn't exactly say it and I seriously doubt he'd use the same language again if he could do the interview over again.

I think it's important for schools and their compliance folks to communicate that it's inappropriate, but you're right - very difficult to police and probably not much the NCAA will do about it unless a school is actually encouraging fans to commit violations.
 

Tim1406 said:
Well actually any direct contact initiated by fans is considered a violation(looked up to make sure). It's not against the players eligibility it would be taken out in sanctions against the school if the NCAA really wanted to(often times they don't and or they don't have the manpower to police it.)

@madman,
My sister is a women's basketball coach so I know some of these things. Sorry you don't respect the institutions well enough to follow the rules set forth by them. I'll be quiet now. carry on like i didn't say anything.
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Maybe I'll pose as a Wisconsin Badger fan, and constantly tweet their recruits to hopefully garner sanctions against them? Thoughts? lol
 


Madman said:
Timmy, I love your attention to the rules..... but you're just straight up crazy to think that us clowns have any morales when it comes to getting a plug in for our squad..... and if it's up to US to conform to these rules..... then that's even more asinine.
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Exactly whose job would it be to conform to said rules if its not up to "us"?
 

GG07 said:
http://www.courier-journal.com/arti...tball-recruiting-prospect-flooded-calls-texts

Looks like we're in good shape.
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From the article:

The first offer, from Minnesota, came from a longtime acquaintance — new Gophers coach Richard Pitino, the son of U of L coach Rick Pitino and a former Cardinals assistant who helped recruit Snider as an underclassman.

Scott Snider said he was surprised to hear from Richard Pitino, given that Quentin had just one day earlier withdrawn his nearly 2-year-old pledge to Rick.

But Richard Pitino’s relationship with the Sniders is as old as Rick’s, and he’s highly familiar with Quentin as a person and a player.

“Him and Quentin have had a relationship since Quentin was a little kid because Quentin was around U of L so much,” Scott Snider said. “… It kind of surprised me he called, but at the same time it didn’t surprise me because I know he likes Quentin and he’s known him for a long time.”

Scott Snider assumes Richard and Rick Pitino have discussed Quentin with each other since Wednesday’s news broke, but what was said in any of the Pitinos’ conversations with each other didn’t come up when Richard spoke to the Sniders.

“He just said they need (a point guard) in the 2014 class that could play immediately,” Scott Snider said.

Go Gophers!!
 


BleedGopher said:
From the article:

The first offer, from Minnesota, came from a longtime acquaintance — new Gophers coach Richard Pitino, the son of U of L coach Rick Pitino and a former Cardinals assistant who helped recruit Snider as an underclassman.

Scott Snider said he was surprised to hear from Richard Pitino, given that Quentin had just one day earlier withdrawn his nearly 2-year-old pledge to Rick.

But Richard Pitino’s relationship with the Sniders is as old as Rick’s, and he’s highly familiar with Quentin as a person and a player.

“Him and Quentin have had a relationship since Quentin was a little kid because Quentin was around U of L so much,” Scott Snider said. “… It kind of surprised me he called, but at the same time it didn’t surprise me because I know he likes Quentin and he’s known him for a long time.”

Scott Snider assumes Richard and Rick Pitino have discussed Quentin with each other since Wednesday’s news broke, but what was said in any of the Pitinos’ conversations with each other didn’t come up when Richard spoke to the Sniders.

“He just said they need (a point guard) in the 2014 class that could play immediately,” Scott Snider said.

Go Gophers!!
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Bleed, also from the article:

Scott Snider told U of L assistant Kevin Keatts on Wednesday that he hoped the Cards would continue to recruit his son, but as of Thursday night, Rick Pitino’s staff had not reached back out to the family.

That's confusing, but probably also a moot point.
 



fan of Ray Williams said:
Bleed, also from the article:

Scott Snider told U of L assistant Kevin Keatts on Wednesday that he hoped the Cards would continue to recruit his son, but as of Thursday night, Rick Pitino’s staff had not reached back out to the family.

That's confusing.
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Maybe he sent him a text or e-mail and didn't receive a response.
 

Tim,

You're a bit pharasitic here but there's little doubt that Bo appreciates your efforts.

Tim1406 said:
Correct me If I'm wrong but isn't tweeting a recruit a NCAA rules violation? I would highly advise against any fans tweeting recruits. If you are not a media member or a coach I would stay out of it and keep the team we follow safe from penalties. Trust that Pitino doesn't need our help besides a good show of support for him and the team we have.
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Alex Kline (@TheRecruitScoop) 8/2/13, 2:49 PM Former Louisville commit Quentin Snider has added new offers from Memphis, Texas A&M, UCLA & Vanderbilt, according to @SteveJones_CJ.
 

futuregopher said:
Alex Kline (@TheRecruitScoop) 8/2/13, 2:49 PM Former Louisville commit Quentin Snider has added new offers from Memphis, Texas A&M, UCLA & Vanderbilt, according to @SteveJones_CJ.
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It appears that we can be assured that shortly after we offer any player UCLA will offer that same player never before us. Alford is starting to irritate me. Why doesn't he develope his own scouting crew?
 



MN1nAZ said:
Tim,

You're a bit pharasitic here but there's little doubt that Bo appreciates your efforts.
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This is now the 2nd time I will repeat my message. I'm sorry I said anything please carry on like i didn't say a word. I'll keep reading without commenting assuming y'all(several people now) stop bashing my naivety.

Is there a way to delete posts? that's probably the best thing that can be done is to just delete what I wrote.
 

MN1nAZ said:
It appears that we can be assured that shortly after we offer any player UCLA will offer that same player never before us. Alford is starting to irritate me. Why doesn't he develope his own scouting crew?
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Exactly what I wrote in the 2014 Recruiting Thread a few days back. Screw UCLA. Recruit your own players, and don't be an opposing pest to us. Because last time they were, we crushed them like a bug!
 

MN1nAZ said:
It appears that we can be assured that shortly after we offer any player UCLA will offer that same player never before us. Alford is starting to irritate me. Why doesn't he develope his own scouting crew?
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Oddly, under our previous regimes, UCLA never bothered to offer anyone we offered. Which do you prefer?
 





This is not going to be the first or last time this happens. When coaches are offering to 100 players so is everyone else. It's no different than college football if you look at the top 20 players the offered are nearly the same. If you guys don't want to see UCLA offering after we do we could go back to the Tubby days when we were always the last to offer the top kids. It is a slight positive UCLA is always late to the party.
 

Are we UCLA's Western Michigan?
 

Well recruiting these type of kids we are going to be that for a great deal of schools when you offer first. The big difference is Western Michigan is offering 300 plus kids a year and most are 3* players. Gopher basketball is offering many of the top 100 players in the country which is a pretty big difference. One could say if we dont want to compete against UCLA for all these players we should offer more 3* players.

Its a good sign we have to compete with the top programs it means we are going after the best players in the country. The interesting thing will be how many battles do we win. Richard Pitino has yet to get a verbal from a single player, when that happens we will know how well this team is doing. Just recruiting them means nothing, getting in their top 5 means nothing, what matters is getting them in maroon and gold.
 

WolfontheProwl said:
Well recruiting these type of kids we are going to be that for a great deal of schools when you offer first. The big difference is Western Michigan is offering 300 plus kids a year and most are 3* players. Gopher basketball is offering many of the top 100 players in the country which is a pretty big difference. One could say if we dont want to compete against UCLA for all these players we should offer more 3* players.

Its a good sign we have to compete with the top programs it means we are going after the best players in the country. The interesting thing will be how many battles do we win. Richard Pitino has yet to get a verbal from a single player, when that happens we will know how well this team is doing. Just recruiting them means nothing, getting in their top 5 means nothing, what matters is getting them in maroon and gold.
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I respectfully disagree with one point. Getting in their top 5 means a heckuva lot. It's Pitino's first year. National folks are picking the Gopher last or near the bottom yet we are making the final 5 of top 50 type recruits. That's huge. I certainly hope we land a couple of them. But progress has already been made.
 

Getting in these players top 5 has some significance to it but not a whole lot. Ultimately winning some of those
recruiting battles is all that really matters.
 

scools12 said:
Getting in these players top 5 has some significance to it but not a whole lot. Ultimately winning some of those
recruiting battles is all that really matters.
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But realistically we have to realize how many recruiting battles we were in a year ago with top 50 guys, maybe one besides the big 3 guys. Ultimately starting to get in these battles is at least a good sign for years to come. If continually lose out on these guys for the next few year then it could become concerning but for now it is just refreshing and good to see us going after top 50 guys and them showing interest back.
 

JSjobes24 said:
But realistically we have to realize how many recruiting battles we were in a year ago with top 50 guys, maybe one besides the big 3 guys. Ultimately starting to get in these battles is at least a good sign for years to come. If continually lose out on these guys for the next few year then it could become concerning but for now it is just refreshing and good to see us going after top 50 guys and them showing interest back.
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Couldn't agree more with this. And you have to look at the fact that getting attention like this from so many top recruits changes the perception of the U among high school guys. Instead of people seeing Minnesota on someone's list as a surprise, it will start to be an expected team on top recruit's lists, especially PGs/SGs as we've seen Richard get after right away. That is obviously the hope, but you can't argue that this is the way you start to get that perception.
 

Mr. Obvious strikes again. :clap:

scools12 said:
Getting in these players top 5 has some significance to it but not a whole lot. Ultimately winning some of those
recruiting battles is all that really matters.
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Getting close is only a positive in the respect that its better than past years. Getting close on recruits doesnt win you games getting the recruits does matter. It is like reading Gopher Football posts when someone says we need to show improvement by losing by less points than it is about winning more games.
 

WolfontheProwl said:
Getting close is only a positive in the respect that its better than past years. Getting close on recruits doesnt win you games getting the recruits does matter. It is like reading Gopher Football posts when someone says we need to show improvement by losing by less points than it is about winning more games.
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Yeah but you have to show improvement before you actually start achieving things... It's like you expect coaches just to come in here and switch a flip and we are a powerhouse. To be honest I did not think we would have this many guys interested in Pitino's first summer here. Tubby left the it pretty bad besides the Hollins'
 

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