All Things Grayson Grove Recruitment Thread (Class of 2024, Alexandria, MN; 6-8, 190lb; Gophers Offered 4/1/23)

[Tigger]

I have watched him play a lot. I really like his overall game. No glaringly deficiencies. Obviously can always improve but he rebounds well, shoots well, and his leadership skills are really good. He will be the first guy to lay out in a dive for a loose ball. Seen it many times. Uses both hands well and is crafty around the rim.

 

[Bayfieldgopher]

Nah. In state kid and we have yet to ever have a scholarship issue. No downside in taking him, even if he's Treyton Thompson level.

There are few if any comparisons between Grove and Thompson. Go watch their film and how they play the game.

I'm still surprised that RP and then Ben took TT. Must have been that one HS or AAU game where he shot the lights out from 3!! I think Grove has the talent and skills to earn PT but will probably be more of a depth player. He has another year to develop.

 

[Holy Man]

There are few if any comparisons between Grove and Thompson. Go watch their film and how they play the game.

I'm still surprised that RP and then Ben took TT. Must have been that one HS or AAU game where he shot the lights out from 3!! I think Grove has the talent and skills to earn PT but will probably be more of a depth player. He has another year to develop.

That’s great, but at some point we need to bring in more than just depth players. From what I’ve seen for years, a guy who can drop in over 40% from three will be a welcome addition and seems like more than a depth player to me.

 

[Spaulding!No!]

I remember when people said Crowl wasn’t good enough for a gopher offer.

 

[GopherBlood666]

I remember when people said Crowl wasn’t good enough for a gopher offer.

Standards were higher under RP apparently

 

[Cayman]

There are few if any comparisons between Grove and Thompson. Go watch their film and how they play the game.

I'm still surprised that RP and then Ben took TT. Must have been that one HS or AAU game where he shot the lights out from 3!! I think Grove has the talent and skills to earn PT but will probably be more of a depth player. He has another year to develop.

Treyton Thompson was a top 100 recruit at one point. He had offers from Iowa, Oklahoma, and Chris Beard at Texas Tech.

 

[BleedGopher]

Per Sam:

Growing up in Minnesota, Grove has been watching the university's athletic teams a lot, and having a family full of Gopher fans was a big motivating factor for making a college commitment.

"I watched their basketball, football, and volleyball teams, and I come from a family of Gopher fans," Grove said in a phone interview with the Echo Press on Monday. "It means a lot to me to be able to play for a home-state school."

"I took my official visit this weekend, and coach Ben Johnson, coach Dave Thorson and the rest of the staff were with me all weekend, and I was able to build a really good relationship with all of them," Grove told Gopher Illustrated's Ryan James. "They showed me around the facilities, and they were just incredible. I like what Ben Johnson has set up for the program over the next few years. I think they are building up to be one of the better programs in the Big Ten. There is a lot of winning coming their way which is what I like. They are a staff that believes in me, they gave me an opportunity, and I think I really fit the way they play."

Boys basketball: Alexandria's Grayson Grove commits to Minnesota

Alexandria junior Grayson Grove announced his decision to commit to Minnesota over the weekend. He helped lead Alexandria to a fourth-place finish at the state tournament in March.

www.echopress.com

Go Gophers!!

 

[Bayfieldgopher]

Treyton Thompson was a top 100 recruit at one point. He had offers from Iowa, Oklahoma, and Chris Beard at Texas Tech.

IMO, they were wrong as well. TT averaged 4pts & 4 boards his Sr year for a top HS program. I watched some of his HS film and was not impressed but that was me. Tall but weak. I think we was 3 stars Rivals.

 

[howeda7]

Treyton Thompson was a top 100 recruit at one point. He had offers from Iowa, Oklahoma, and Chris Beard at Texas Tech.

So much TT slander on this board.

 

[Tigger]

I also watched TT. He was way overrated. Had an attitude. I watched him elbow a kid in the throat and then act all innocent when he got called on it.

If I got to choose, I would pick Grayson first for every pick up game. Grayson has way more upside.

 

[Gopher_In_NYC]

I also watched TT. He was way overrated. Had an attitude. I watched him elbow a kid in the throat and then act all innocent when he got called on it.

If I got to choose, I would pick Grayson first for every pick up game. Grayson has way more upside.

 

[howeda7]

I also watched TT. He was way overrated. Had an attitude. I watched him elbow a kid in the throat and then act all innocent when he got called on it.

In his defense, maybe Greg Gard was there that day. Do you know a better way to get Wisconsin's attention?

 

[Holy Man]

In his defense, maybe Greg Gard was there that day. Do you know a better way to get Wisconsin's attention?

Maybe a slug near the family jewels would gain more positive attention from Madison.

 

[BleedGopher]

Go Gophers!!

 

[Holy Man]

Go Gophers!!

This report is a little different than most of what I read here. College ready frame isn’t something that has been tossed out to this point.

 

[Blackhammer]

This report is a little different than most of what I read here. College ready frame isn’t something that has been tossed out to this point.

The experts here seem to think redshirt even though he has 18 months until college basketball starts for him.. Nice to see a positive scouting report.

 

[fan of Ray Williams]

Would have been nice to see some highlights like there is in the Asuma thread.

 

[gopherbadgerman]

This kid is a zero-star recruit? Even TT was a 3 star and we see how that turned out.

Stars don’t matter

 

[bga1]

Just a thought on Ben's freshmen recruits in his first three classes:

Payne
Carrington
Joseph
Henley
Evans
Christie
Betts
Asuma
Grove

These are all solid gets by Ben- really not bad at all. Obviously Evans got taken due to a ridiculous NIL deal but that's 9 pretty good recruits in his first three classes so far. In this era, you have to get them to campus, pay them, get them to stay and then develop them. Just looking at who he has attracted so far, it gives me hope. Now we will see how he can develop kids into a team.

 

[Bayfieldgopher]

Would have been nice to see some highlights like there is in the Asuma thread.

I've seen his highlights and posted my thoughts in other threads. My take is that he is legit, has good skills, is a gamer, plays the game well, and will benefit from another year of AAU and HS. People that think he is another TT haven't done their homework. He has the frame to easily add 10-15 pounds of muscle. Some suggest a RS but that may not be needed if he has a good HS year. At this point, I would by Grove stock!

 

[Willwin40]

I've seen his highlights and posted my thoughts in other threads. My take is that he is legit, has good skills, is a gamer, plays the game well, and will benefit from another year of AAU and HS. People that think he is another TT haven't done their homework. He has the frame to easily add 10-15 pounds of muscle. Some suggest a RS but that may not be needed if he has a good HS year. At this point, I would by Grove stock!

 

[Willwin40]

This guy looks great in his highlights. He knows how to play bb. Another Dusty Rychart.

 

[Spaulding!No!]

Just a thought on Ben's freshmen recruits in his first three classes:

Payne
Carrington
Joseph
Henley
Evans
Christie
Betts
Asuma
Grove

These are all solid gets by Ben- really not bad at all. Obviously Evans got taken due to a ridiculous NIL deal but that's 9 pretty good recruits in his first three classes so far. In this era, you have to get them to campus, pay them, get them to stay and then develop them. Just looking at who he has attracted so far, it gives me hope. Now we will see how he can develop kids into a team.

Old wins. -BJ

 

[bga1]

This guy looks great in his highlights. He knows how to play bb. Another Dusty Rychart.

Let's go big here- Kevin McHale!

 

[Bob_Loblaw]

Would have been nice to see some highlights like there is in the Asuma thread.

I really recommend watching his highlights on YouTube (search Alexandira basketball or Grayson Grove or Alexandria vs. Holy Family basketball) and you'll get quite a bit.

I actually think the longer full game highlights (10-15 minutes) are really good from Fresh Coast Hoops. They aren't created to make Grove look good like Grove-specific highlights will do (like they do for every recruit). You get to see him in other people's highlights, playing defense in situations other than highlights (massive blocks/steals).

I went into watching a bunch of his highlights thinking I'd be underwhelmed (maybe just TT/Alex bias, I don't know), but he really impressed me.

 

[fan of Ray Williams]

I really recommend watching his highlights on YouTube (search Alexandira basketball or Grayson Grove or Alexandria vs. Holy Family basketball) and you'll get quite a bit.

I actually think the longer full game highlights (10-15 minutes) are really good from Fresh Coast Hoops. They aren't created to make Grove look good like Grove-specific highlights will do (like they do for every recruit). You get to see him in other people's highlights, playing defense in situations other than highlights (massive blocks/steals).

I went into watching a bunch of his highlights thinking I'd be underwhelmed (maybe just TT/Alex bias, I don't know), but he really impressed me.

I watched the Holy Family game. Thought he looked good.

 

[EG#9]

Just a thought on Ben's freshmen recruits in his first three classes:

Payne
Carrington
Joseph
Henley
Evans
Christie
Betts
Asuma
Grove

These are all solid gets by Ben- really not bad at all. Obviously Evans got taken due to a ridiculous NIL deal but that's 9 pretty good recruits in his first three classes so far. In this era, you have to get them to campus, pay them, get them to stay and then develop them. Just looking at who he has attracted so far, it gives me hope. Now we will see how he can develop kids into a team.

I am not understanding how you come to this conclusion. 9 "pretty good" recruits? The majority of these recruits had little to no other high major offers. Ben has won a grand total of 1 recruiting battle in 3 years which was to land Cam Christie and even that one is a bit of a mystery. I follow the recruiting stuff as closely as anyone and Cam's recruitment was very quiet. I am just going to give Ben the benefit of the doubt here that some of Cam's better offers were commitable and he just had no interest in visiting those schools. By ratings, Cam is the only top 100 (!) kid Ben has landed as well.

Ben lost the local kids to Purdue and Michigan State in his first class. Then he lost the local kids to Ohio State and Wisconsin in his second class. He's lost guards to Tennessee and Providence, a forward to Missouri, and that's just off the top of my head.

Ben did a great job of identifying Payne. He averaged 8 points and 5 rebounds and never made a shot outside of 8 feet all year. I want to be clear Payne is a win for Ben, but the vast majority of high majors have at least one returning Freshman that their fans should feel as good about as we do about Payne. As a group of recruits the kids Ben brought in wouldn't look out of place at all as a 3 year haul for an A-10 or Mountain West team. When compared to other high majors, I'd be surprised if you could make a case for it being above the bottom 10% whether you chose to go by offers or rankings.

 

[sal]

I am not understanding how you come to this conclusion. 9 "pretty good" recruits? The majority of these recruits had little to no other high major offers. Ben has won a grand total of 1 recruiting battle in 3 years which was to land Cam Christie and even that one is a bit of a mystery. I follow the recruiting stuff as closely as anyone and Cam's recruitment was very quiet. I am just going to give Ben the benefit of the doubt here that some of Cam's better offers were commitable and he just had no interest in visiting those schools. By ratings, Cam is the only top 100 (!) kid Ben has landed as well.

Ben lost the local kids to Purdue and Michigan State in his first class. Then he lost the local kids to Ohio State and Wisconsin in his second class. He's lost guards to Tennessee and Providence, a forward to Missouri, and that's just off the top of my head.

Ben did a great job of identifying Payne. He averaged 8 points and 5 rebounds and never made a shot outside of 8 feet all year. I want to be clear Payne is a win for Ben, but the vast majority of high majors have at least one returning Freshman that their fans should feel as good about as we do about Payne. As a group of recruits the kids Ben brought in wouldn't look out of place at all as a 3 year haul for an A-10 or Mountain West team. When compared to other high majors, I'd be surprised if you could make a case for it being above the bottom 10% whether you chose to go by offers or rankings.

The “no other high major offers” is a poor measuring stick due to limited AAU exposure during Covid, multiple recruiting cycles were effected.

 

[bga1]

I am not understanding how you come to this conclusion. 9 "pretty good" recruits? The majority of these recruits had little to no other high major offers. Ben has won a grand total of 1 recruiting battle in 3 years which was to land Cam Christie and even that one is a bit of a mystery. I follow the recruiting stuff as closely as anyone and Cam's recruitment was very quiet. I am just going to give Ben the benefit of the doubt here that some of Cam's better offers were commitable and he just had no interest in visiting those schools. By ratings, Cam is the only top 100 (!) kid Ben has landed as well.

Ben lost the local kids to Purdue and Michigan State in his first class. Then he lost the local kids to Ohio State and Wisconsin in his second class. He's lost guards to Tennessee and Providence, a forward to Missouri, and that's just off the top of my head.

Ben did a great job of identifying Payne. He averaged 8 points and 5 rebounds and never made a shot outside of 8 feet all year. I want to be clear Payne is a win for Ben, but the vast majority of high majors have at least one returning Freshman that their fans should feel as good about as we do about Payne. As a group of recruits the kids Ben brought in wouldn't look out of place at all as a 3 year haul for an A-10 or Mountain West team. When compared to other high majors, I'd be surprised if you could make a case for it being above the bottom 10% whether you chose to go by offers or rankings.

I feel really good about these guys- perhaps you don't and that's fine. Everyone of them appears to be a high character kid with plenty of potential.

 

[SoMpls]

I am not understanding how you come to this conclusion. 9 "pretty good" recruits? The majority of these recruits had little to no other high major offers. Ben has won a grand total of 1 recruiting battle in 3 years which was to land Cam Christie and even that one is a bit of a mystery. I follow the recruiting stuff as closely as anyone and Cam's recruitment was very quiet. I am just going to give Ben the benefit of the doubt here that some of Cam's better offers were commitable and he just had no interest in visiting those schools. By ratings, Cam is the only top 100 (!) kid Ben has landed as well.

Ben lost the local kids to Purdue and Michigan State in his first class. Then he lost the local kids to Ohio State and Wisconsin in his second class. He's lost guards to Tennessee and Providence, a forward to Missouri, and that's just off the top of my head.

Ben did a great job of identifying Payne. He averaged 8 points and 5 rebounds and never made a shot outside of 8 feet all year. I want to be clear Payne is a win for Ben, but the vast majority of high majors have at least one returning Freshman that their fans should feel as good about as we do about Payne. As a group of recruits the kids Ben brought in wouldn't look out of place at all as a 3 year haul for an A-10 or Mountain West team. When compared to other high majors, I'd be surprised if you could make a case for it being above the bottom 10% whether you chose to go by offers or rankings.

Lost players to Purdue and Michigan St? Who? Holloman is the one who looked out of place. He’ll never see anymore the spot minutes at MSU. Heide may never play. Not to mention King and Watson. Ben did great identifying that 2022 class. Payne, Carrington, and JOJ have upside. Not sure about the others outside of maybe Watson. Winter is potentially the only loss in 2023. We’ll have to see how Betts develops. Chapman is in over his head at OSU