I was reading about STU competing with the D2 teams.What does that have to do with anything I’ve said?
I was reading about STU competing with the D2 teams.What does that have to do with anything I’ve said?
Also depends on when.
One game some d2 could compete with some FCS.
Mid season, probably not. The depth of the FCS schools would likely show mid season and late in games.
FBS = 85 full rides
FCS = 63 full rides
D2 = 36 but can be split
Last year there were about 28 d2 vs FCS games. I haven’t looked up all the results but would guess there is at least one upset
Well Adam wasn’t all that great at Mankato. Sr year was decent. Don’t think was much of a recruit coming out of high school so doubt the scholarship would have been that much compared to some others. Just kept getting better. Amazing story.I've always said the top teams in one division could compete well with all but maybe the top 20% of the next division up (pulling that number out of my ass). There are numerous examples where a team that moves up immediately competes with most of the new upper division conference. Regional examples include Sioux Falls (NAIA to D2) and much of the old NCC going FCS. UST competed right away in the Pioneer. WIAC teams hold their own against D2 teams most years. Concordia-Moorhead, when they were good, had a decent record against Moorhead State back when they played every year.
As for D2 scholarships, they are almost never full rides, so some D3 schools can actually compete in the financial aid race. I thought I remembered Adam Thielen saying his scholly at Mankato was a whopping $500.
I think complaining about wasting space in an off-season thread on a message board is pretty ridiculous tbhIn the threads for D2 and D3 football, last year sooo much space was wasted on discussion over high school teams potentially beating D3 teams. It is interesting to see how far things have come.
Taking yourself very seriously is how you average over two thousand mostly meaningless posts per year through 9 years on a message board. ImhoI think complaining about wasting space in an off-season thread on a message board is pretty ridiculous tbh
The irony of this statement from the guy who came on a message board to accuse people of wasting spaceThis is how you average two thousand posts per year, with most of them taking yourself far too seriously. tbh
I should have been more specific in that I was referring specifically to you. With that said, it is probably fruitless territory for me because you know what they say about a peeing contest with a skunk. And I’m dealing with a bladder the size of Lake Superior here. So I’ll just leave it at that.The irony of this statement from the guy who came on a message board to accuse people of wasting space
I’ve heard of the growing apathy towards the bison up there. Not sure if they’ve outgrow their conference and going to FBS would change that. Even though UND hockey program isn’t what it used to be, it’s still always in the top 3 for attendance each season.
Go Gophers!!
I have a few friends who are Bison fans but have since given up their season tickets. It gets boring watching them beat up on the Illinois States of the world by 40 points most weeks. The Fargodome desperately needs some remodeling, but since it's city-owned and not school-owned, the school has no real say in it. It's like watching football in a dim warehouse.I’ve heard of the growing apathy towards the bison up there. Not sure if they’ve outgrow their conference and going to FBS would change that. Even though UND hockey program isn’t what it used to be, it’s still always in the top 3 for attendance each season.
Starting in 2011 with their first championship, they have played 34 home playoff games vs 1 playoff road game. They are 33-1 in those 34 games.I have a few friends who are Bison fans but have since given up their season tickets. It gets boring watching them beat up on the Illinois States of the world by 40 points most weeks. The Fargodome desperately needs some remodeling, but since it's city-owned and not school-owned, the school has no real say in it. It's like watching football in a dim warehouse.
I thought I'd heard they started to crack down a bit on the tailgate scene too, not to mention tailgating late in the season is absolutely miserable.
I don't really know what they can do, but the one thing is that with geography apparently no longer mattering at all for college sports, they can't claim geographic isolation anymore as to why they don't have an FBS invite.
The novelty has definitely worn off in Fargo. The lack of any real and lasting competition doesn't make for compelling must see football. The MVFC is the best conference in FCS but really it's only because NDSU, SDSU, Northern Iowa who have consistently been strong teams and then a rotation of 4th and 5th place teams, and the gap between the top to the middle of the conference is pretty wide.I have a few friends who are Bison fans but have since given up their season tickets. It gets boring watching them beat up on the Illinois States of the world by 40 points most weeks. The Fargodome desperately needs some remodeling, but since it's city-owned and not school-owned, the school has no real say in it. It's like watching football in a dim warehouse.
I thought I'd heard they started to crack down a bit on the tailgate scene too, not to mention tailgating late in the season is absolutely miserable.
I don't really know what they can do, but the one thing is that with geography apparently no longer mattering at all for college sports, they can't claim geographic isolation anymore as to why they don't have an FBS invite.
So where did you play?Many many years ago, I had an official visit schedule to Bemidji State for football. A record cold snap hit and we couldn't make it. I remember thinking no big deal, didn't want to go there in the middle of nowhere. Upon growing up and spent time fishing and vacationing in the area, I wish I had made it. A beautiful area of our state.
South Dakota game is interesting too.Let's see how St. Thomas does against Harvard, a consistent first-division Ivy team. We can learn a bit from that one game. Its important not to look at Ivies as typical non-schollies since they opened up their endowments to help fund tuition, placing many on "de facto" scholarship. It has had a marked impact on the quality of play in the Ivy.
STU defense has traditionally been strong. Offense basic run it down your throat. It will be like a good high school game, whoever has the bigger stronger guys will push the LOS.South Dakota game is interesting too.
Can they be competitive?
So where did you play?
If the CFP had not expanded or if the G5 had been left out I think this would have been the result. It could still happen if one result of super conferences is more conference games and less guarantee games for G5 and less incentives for the Sam Hiustons to be FBS. Or at the very least, if not a new division then some teams returning to FCS from FBS.The best bet for NDSU (and the other three Dakota schools, and probably the two Montana schools) is that there's some other split in D1 football where the current P5 (or now P4) become a higher division, and the G5 absorb the top of FCS.
Bison fans are among the most delusional sports fans of all, but they reside in this weird no-mans-land, which has
It looks like NDSU had an exodus of players to FBS and other schools. Lost some coaches as well. Competition is always good, the MIAC for football declined when they removed St. Thomas. Most of the teams appear to be a gloried HS team.
Bethel had a really good team last year. Hopefully they can continue to complete at a high level. Their 6th year QB really was the difference for them last year. All fun to watch.I think that's a pretty harsh assessment of the MIAC. If you look at last year's standings, St. John's and Bethel are clearly the top two teams in the league. Hamline and St. Scholastica are on the bottom. but the teams in the middle are very competitive with each other.
I watch a fair amount of D3 games. they are obviously not on the level of D1 or the top D2 teams, but they play solid football and would rout any HS team they face.
there is room for different levels of football. I choose to enjoy them for what they are. you are free to make your own choice.