All Things 2026 Minnesota Vikings Off-Season Thread

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Paul Allen never said anything about a schism. KOC said he found his franchise qb in JJM. The whole thing was a ponzi scheme on the fans.
 


RememberMurray said:
Yes. It was money. We'll spend on a wide receiver, but we hate spending on a QB. It's hard to even contemplate the foolishness of that approach. "They couldn't afford" him? Apparently they couldn't afford to let him go!



JJM was not ready to lead a team that had realistic playoff aspirations. Full stop.

Conversely, Darnold is the QB of a Super Bowl team. So it is possible to pay Sam Darnold and at the same time field a really good team. This applies to much of what follows...



Woulda, coulda, shoulda never applies in professional sports. All that matters is actual results.
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you're arguing different things.

Darnold could go to a super bowl. he's shown that. he's also shown it takes the right team around him to do so. they clearly seemed to think they could not assemble that roster (biased in no small part to the shambolic effort against the Rams preceded by a drubbing by the Lions). I can get that feeling based on where they'd already dumped money

If their feeling, which no one has said outwardly in any way, shape, or form that I have seen or heard that there is no way you can get to or win a super bowl with sam darnold, then they are most certainly wrong which would be completely boneheaded feeling if you look at historic super bowl QBs (both winners and runners up).

I agree with you that being forever in QB purgatory sucks when you're throwing out almost good enough rosters. They took a shot on JJ and will continue to do that into next year in hopes he becomes the franchise guy. I don't really see any way that's flawed thinking/logic unless he cannot think the game (that is on KOC to say flatly he cannot do this) or KOC cannot call a game to a young QB (which seemed pretty painfully apparent this year, especially early). He has the arm strength and the mobility to play at this level. I do really have issue with how KOC called the offense with him under center (or in the gun).

Personally I really love what Kubiak did in Seattle this year. They're one of the heaviest run skew teams in the league with a run over expected rate of about 5% to the run. They run PA and motion constantly to give Darnold easy reads. Its pretty fascinating to look at the data and see Darnold is about as middle of the pack as it comes in terms of every advanced QB stat out there (and it's really fascinating to look at it compared to Geno Smith the year prior) as well as their efficiencies.

Short add to the end. I agree with you 100% this QB purgatory we're in sucks and needs to change if this team is ever going to get over the hump. They thought they may have that guy in Mccarthy and I guess we'll see next year as year 2 needs to be better. That said, the bed we have been in is on KAM for missing repeatedly in the draft and needing to spend in FA. If KAM hits on literally anything from 2022 or 2023 outside Addison, you have the money to keep Darnold. Then go look at Seattle since that time. There's a reason you could plug Darnold (amongst many others) into that spot and have a Super Bowl contender.
 

Gophers1992 said:
He had no business being drafted where he was in the first place. The sooner the mistake is admitted the better.
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Dumb. He looked like a rookie this year as expected. He was better later in the year and you can see his talent.

You don’t give up on a 22 yr old QB with plenty of talent.
 



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