All Things 2025 Minnesota Vikings In-Season Thread

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upnorthkid said:
i can't say i agree, particularly when mixed with what people are talking about with restructuring and needing to cut or trade guys to make the cap work as has been alluded to unless you're restructuring them all and prolonging cap hell

QB: need 1; you need someone to come and compete with McCarthy though given where he's at as well as his health.
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They'll be adding someone to compete with JJM, no doubt about it. It will be a veteran with at least somewhat of a proven history, not just someone to hold the clipboard. They have no choice.

upnorthkid said:
RB: need at least 1 contributor; combined Mason (5.8m) and Jones (14.8) cost you 20mil with their contract bumps and Chandlers contract is up. You need a FA or to draft one and I hate that 15mil cap hit for Jones who can't stay healthy and restructuring him just keeps him rostered more years.
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RB is interesting for sure. Yes, Mason and Jones can't stay. Most would agree to keep Mason, despite the benefit of Jones in the locker room. I guess he could stay for a SMALL deal but I doubt it. It's interesting that Chandler has basically been a healthy scratch recently, as I think he's been healthy the last few weeks. Do they love Xavier Scott? Or just dislike Chandler that much? Either way, they'll be adding an RB

upnorthkid said:
OL: need 1 for sure; Idk what to make of Darrisaw (this is very very weird) but you for sure need at minimum one new guy in the middle 3 and you need to add depth (Jurgens is a good multi position depth guy, not a starter). ONeill needs and extension. Darrisaw may never be the same and that's one of the most worrisome pieces to me. I would assume they cut Kelly
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They'll draft OL, for sure. I actually thought of this the other day, albeit really far-fetched; if an OT they loved slipped to them in the 1st, could they trade O'Neill and draft his replacement. That would save a lot of money on the books. Doubtful though
upnorthkid said:
DT: you'll need a DT. You can't pay Hargrave and Allen 42 mil combined. Then they've got to pay Redmond.
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Hargrave is gone, that's pretty much a given. Allen is 2 yrs younger and was basically solid. With what they clearly like in Redmond, Levi Drake Rodriguez and even Elijah Williams (and Ingram-Dawkins), I don't know that it's the most glaring position of need? Day 3 pick perhaps, and some action in the UDFA market.

upnorthkid said:
DE: this is one where it could get interesting with trading someone. Gink and Greenard both missed time and Turner has looked pretty good. That said, they will need at least one more guy here but should be a depth guy
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What they do here might tell us what they think of their development guys like Tyler Batty, Gabe Murphy, Richter, Chambliss, Keys, et al
upnorthkid said:
LB: Wilson and Pace both are up. you need 2 LBs (or to resign them who will both be more expensive than their current deals)
CB: Will need depth/slot corners but I'd assume they're rolling with Murphy and Rodgers
S: I assume Harry retires so will need a safety
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It will be an interesting offseason. I'm anxious to see what they do at QB. They might be able to attract someone with some talent and history, knowing there is an avenue to the starting gig. I think interested QBs will see more of an opportunity NEXT season than they did for this last season. It was obvious to everyone on the planet that it was JJM's job in 2025; I think interested FA's will think that's at least a LITTLE less so for 2026.
 

Just looking at Tankathon and the draft order, it really doesn't look like the Vikings will move much in these last two weeks, no matter what happens around them. With the Vikings SOS, sitting at 7-8, wins by any of the 6-win teams in front of them won't move the needle as all of those teams have SOS weaker than the Vikings.

They are sitting at #15 right now. Dallas could win their last two and drop below the Vikings; Cincinnati could win their last two and maybe drop below the Vikings. With Brosmer likely starting (?), I don't see the Vikings having a lot of success in their last two games.

Even if they did win a game, it would hardly drop them much.
 

Ogie Ogilthorpe said:
Just looking at Tankathon and the draft order, it really doesn't look like the Vikings will move much in these last two weeks, no matter what happens around them. With the Vikings SOS, sitting at 7-8, wins by any of the 6-win teams in front of them won't move the needle as all of those teams have SOS weaker than the Vikings.

They are sitting at #15 right now. Dallas could win their last two and drop below the Vikings; Cincinnati could win their last two and maybe drop below the Vikings. With Brosmer likely starting (?), I don't see the Vikings having a lot of success in their last two games.

Even if they did win a game, it would hardly drop them much.
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yeah we've now condemned ourselves to being the borderline missing the playoffs grouping and not having a high draft pick. agree with you 100% that really only dallas with a chance to pass us based on who they play and who's around us. 15 will get a little tight to get some of the top flight guys given a weak qb draft class that's going to diminish trading up and see more teams go "best available"
 

Ogie Ogilthorpe said:
They'll be adding someone to compete with JJM, no doubt about it. It will be a veteran with at least somewhat of a proven history, not just someone to hold the clipboard. They have no choice.



RB is interesting for sure. Yes, Mason and Jones can't stay. Most would agree to keep Mason, despite the benefit of Jones in the locker room. I guess he could stay for a SMALL deal but I doubt it. It's interesting that Chandler has basically been a healthy scratch recently, as I think he's been healthy the last few weeks. Do they love Xavier Scott? Or just dislike Chandler that much? Either way, they'll be adding an RB



They'll draft OL, for sure. I actually thought of this the other day, albeit really far-fetched; if an OT they loved slipped to them in the 1st, could they trade O'Neill and draft his replacement. That would save a lot of money on the books. Doubtful though


Hargrave is gone, that's pretty much a given. Allen is 2 yrs younger and was basically solid. With what they clearly like in Redmond, Levi Drake Rodriguez and even Elijah Williams (and Ingram-Dawkins), I don't know that it's the most glaring position of need? Day 3 pick perhaps, and some action in the UDFA market.



What they do here might tell us what they think of their development guys like Tyler Batty, Gabe Murphy, Richter, Chambliss, Keys, et al


It will be an interesting offseason. I'm anxious to see what they do at QB. They might be able to attract someone with some talent and history, knowing there is an avenue to the starting gig. I think interested QBs will see more of an opportunity NEXT season than they did for this last season. It was obvious to everyone on the planet that it was JJM's job in 2025; I think interested FA's will think that's at least a LITTLE less so for 2026.
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Ogie,

What do you think about the rumors that Burrow wants out of Cincy and that this might be one of his preferred landing spots? What do you think it would take to get him? Pie in the sky?
 

jamiche said:
Ogie,

What do you think about the rumors that Burrow wants out of Cincy and that this might be one of his preferred landing spots? What do you think it would take to get him? Pie in the sky?
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Burrow seems as durable as JJM.
 


jamiche said:
Ogie,

What do you think about the rumors that Burrow wants out of Cincy and that this might be one of his preferred landing spots? What do you think it would take to get him? Pie in the sky?
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My offer would be two (2) FRPs and JJM. It's a very steep price for a guy that's 29 and has been injury prone but I still do it to get off the treadmill.
 

jamiche said:
Ogie,

What do you think about the rumors that Burrow wants out of Cincy and that this might be one of his preferred landing spots? What do you think it would take to get him? Pie in the sky?
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I think there is an almost zero chance that Cincy lets Burrow go, although they could for a king's ransom; and I think there's an almost zero chance that this Front Office would ever make a move like that. And....

I think a deal like this, you would really have to dive into the math on the Value of what you have to give up and considering KAM is a Wall Street, numbers guy, I don't think he would ever think the Value is there to make that move.
Ope3 said:
Burrow seems as durable as JJM.
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There's that too, although if Burrow really IS at least hypothetically on the market, I think there would be a few teams desperate enough to make that move. And it could pan out, you never know.

I think if Cincy is willing to let Burrow go, you just burn the whole thing down and start from scratch, starting with letting Zac Taylor go, who I have never been convinced is a very good HC at all. Trade Burrow, maybe even 1 of the WRs if you can find a taker, get a hard-nosed Defensive-minded Head Coach that can build a tough team to win in the elements of the AFC North, and find a QB at the top of the 2027 draft
 

Slim Tubby said:
My offer would be two (2) FRPs and JJM. It's a very steep price for a guy that's 29 and has been injury prone but I still do it to get off the treadmill.
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That's at least in the ballpark for what Detroit received for Stafford (Goff, 2FRP & and a 3rd Rd pick) from the LA Rams.

Burrow is a few years younger than Stafford was when that trade happened.
 
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Ope3 said:
That's at least in the ballpark for what Detroit received for Stafford (Goff, 2FRP & and a 3rd Rd pick) from the LA Rams.

Burrow is a few years younger than Stafford was when that trade happened.
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Good comparison. I'm probably light on my offer but the price of that trade for the Rams is virtually nothing after winning the SB.

I highly doubt CIN trades him but Burrow could make it very difficult for them if he truly wants out.
 



upnorthkid said:
yeah we've now condemned ourselves to being the borderline missing the playoffs grouping and not having a high draft pick. agree with you 100% that really only dallas with a chance to pass us based on who they play and who's around us. 15 will get a little tight to get some of the top flight guys given a weak qb draft class that's going to diminish trading up and see more teams go "best available"
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This is the Viking way
 



Ope3 said:
That's at least in the ballpark for what Detroit received for Stafford (Goff, 2FRP & and a 3rd Rd pick) from the LA Rams.

Burrow is a few years younger than Stafford was when that trade happened.
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I can't think of another player that is potentially available who would give us a better chance to win a SB in the next 2-3 years than Burrow.

I still agree that CIN is unlikely to move him for the exact same reason other teams would be frantically trying to acquire him.
 




Brosmer locks up the 4th place schedule for us against the Lions. Then get JJ back to further his growth the next Sunday. Very good.
 

Most of the time, I think this is fairly overplayed in significance but in the case of the Vikings and the NFC North, this could be a pretty damn substantial difference.

The 4th place in the NFC North will likely get:
- NY Giants, TN Titans, and AZ Cardinals

The 3rd place in the NFC North will likely get:
- WSH Commanders, Indy Colts, and the lowest place NFC West finishing team between Seattle, SF 49ers, and the LA Rams.

That is one massive scheduling difference

 

Ogie Ogilthorpe said:
Most of the time, I think this is fairly overplayed in significance but in the case of the Vikings and the NFC North, this could be a pretty damn substantial difference.

The 4th place in the NFC North will likely get:
- NY Giants, TN Titans, and AZ Cardinals

The 3rd place in the NFC North will likely get:
- WSH Commanders, Indy Colts, and the lowest place NFC West finishing team between Seattle, SF 49ers, and the LA Rams.

That is one massive scheduling difference

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For 2025, I think it was enough of a difference to the Bears to be ahead of the Lions & Packers, slightly in the standings.
 

Ope3 said:
For 2025, I think it was enough of a difference to the Bears to be ahead of the Lions & Packers, slightly in the standings.
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There's an absolutely Zero chance that the Bears will duplicate their Turnover advantage in 2026; Leading the league, by a wide margin, in TO Margin and Takeaways Per Game. That's just not sustainable. That, and the schedule difficulty, I'd be surprised if they finish above 500.

You have to give Ben Johnson some major props for this season though. He knows Caleb Williams just isn't a top-tier QB and can't carry the team, and he just plain ran the living shit out of the football, protecting Williams from hurting the team and losing games.

The Bears:

#2 in Rush Attempts per Game
#2 in Rush Yards per Game
#3 in Yards per Rush

I love KOC as a HC but I would love it if he brought in someone else to call the plays on offense next year. It won't happen, but I think he needs to at least think about it.
 


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