All Things 2025 Minnesota Vikings In-Season Thread

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Betting line on the Vikings-Bears game has been moving around a little bit. It's again down to Vikings favored at -2.5 (at least on BetMGM) and it had been sitting on Vikings -3 for quite a while.

Not a huge "Pros vs Joes" game but there's definitely public money on the Bears and professional money on the Vikings. The Pros definitely like the OVER at 48.5 as well, with the public on the Under; more of a disparity there than with the point spread. Pros hitting the Over pretty hard

Indoor game, one terrible defense (Bears) against a defense in the Vikings that hasn't been outstanding by any stretch.

No Greenard and no C Ryan Kelly (shocker) for the Vikings. I like the Vikings to win this one, if they just keep Caleb Williams in the pocket (I don't think he can throw from the pocket), but the health of JJM's hand gives me pause

As far as betting, I'm leaning towards a stay-away on this one.
 

How has Kelly not been forced to retire yet???

Seven concussions

F'ing A dude ... do you really want to be drooling in a wheelchair, being wheeled around by your wife at 45??

Do the right thing for crissake. For your family
 

From the Parkinglot said:

Get first downs KOC. How about that column. It’s more difficult to score when you don’t have the ball.
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Huge problem with this statistic. Which obviously has to be the case ... because otherwise how could they win 14 games in 2022 and 15 games in 2024 otherwise?

And that clearly is: it doesn't say a thing about how often they're getting into 3rd/4th and short , in the first place.

Point is, Vikings could be near last in the league since 2022 in number of instances of 3rd/4th and short.

What's the truth on that part? The tweet avoids it.
 

GopherGrit said:
How has Kelly not been forced to retire yet???

Seven concussions

F'ing A dude ... do you really want to be drooling in a wheelchair, being wheeled around by your wife at 45??

Do the right thing for crissake. For your family
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Does anyone know if a player receives the rest of their remaining contract if they opt to retire due to football related injuries?
 

Slim Tubby said:
Does anyone know if a player receives the rest of their remaining contract if they opt to retire due to football related injuries?
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For whatever reason I think it becomes a "disability settlement", whether it's a negotiation or formula where they get a portion of their contract.

I admit I could be way off base on that.
 



The Bikes writers at The Athletic with some data/insights & predictions for tomorrow’s tilt-

How these teams match up from a data standpoint​

Here is where each team ranks in 2025 in the following categories, using explosive play rate for explosiveness, success rate for efficiency and DVOA’s strength of schedule:

Vikings first column 🐻 second column
Off turnovers30th4th
Def turnovers22nd1st
Off explosiveness9th1st
Def explosiveness22nd26th
Off efficiency18th17th
Def efficiency13th30th
Strength of schedule17th31st

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Predictions​

Lewis: Bears 27, Vikings 21. The Bears defense doesn’t have much high-end talent, but McCarthy’s inconsistencies are too vast for me to pick the Vikings. Turnover margin and penalties will be fascinating statistics to review. Quarterbacks drive outcomes in this league, and that’s the reason for this pick.

Krawczynski: Vikings 23, Bears 21. I’m probably a fool for doubting the Bears, but I’m just not quite convinced yet that they’re ready for prime time. A motivated Jefferson, a focused McCarthy and a determined O’Connell, who faced criticism this week for his play calling, feel like a good recipe for a bounce-back win.
 

Slim Tubby said:
Does anyone know if a player receives the rest of their remaining contract if they opt to retire due to football related injuries?
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The contract stops.

But the Wilfs could well have paid him in actual cash upfront. The cap hit doesn't have to reflect that. He doesn't have to give that money back.

I suspect the Wilfs would do the right thing, regardless. Best ownership in the NFL, hands down
 




Slim Tubby said:
Ope incoming in 3, 2, 1... 🙂
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Factual evidence is not something that can be debated. They're the best, or at the very least one of the best, ownerships in the league.


Do they make perfect decisions all the time? Of course not. No one does
 


GopherGrit said:
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Factual evidence is not something that can be debated. They're the best, or at the very least one of the best, ownerships in the league.


Do they make perfect decisions all the time? Of course not. No one does
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The annual player rankings/survey support how well they run the organization.
 

GopherGrit said:
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Factual evidence is not something that can be debated. They're the best, or at the very least one of the best, ownerships in the league.


Do they make perfect decisions all the time? Of course not. No one does
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The overwhelming evidence is they have never made even 1 perfect decision.
 



GopherGrit said:
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Factual evidence is not something that can be debated. They're the best, or at the very least one of the best, ownerships in the league.


Do they make perfect decisions all the time? Of course not. No one does
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Good ownership gives the Front Office the resources they need to be successful and generally stays out of the way. I don't know a lot about the Wilfs, but any lack of success the Vikings have had is most certainly not due to ownership.

To be a truly successful, last the test of time franchise, you need to be good in most or all of these areas:

Owner
General Manager
Head Coach
Quarterback

The most effective and consistent of these areas since the Wilfs took over has been Ownership, far and away.
 


Ogie Ogilthorpe said:
Good ownership gives the Front Office the resources they need to be successful and generally stays out of the way. I don't know a lot about the Wilfs, but any lack of success the Vikings have had is most certainly not due to ownership.

To be a truly successful, last the test of time franchise, you need to be good in most or all of these areas:

Owner
General Manager
Head Coach
Quarterback

The most effective and consistent of these areas since the Wilfs took over has been Ownership, far and away.
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The Pack has over the Wilf’s ownership run had the best combination of your 4 categories including significantly better QBs.
 




GopherGrit said:
If you want to be literal then probably most have never made a "perfect" decision.
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At least 1 NFL Ownership group makes a perfect decision every season, which is played out on Super Sunday.

I'd settle for a near perfect decision of just getting to that fateful evening.
 

Ope3 said:
At least 1 NFL Ownership group makes a perfect decision every season, which is played out on Super Sunday.

I'd settle for a near perfect decision of just getting to that fateful evening.
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Well, this is why I was careful to make a big separation between what being a great owner is about, and then the tough but very limited (hopefully) decisions that ownership makes.

Ownership decisions should be limited to hiring an executive team, a general manager, and a head coach. They should leave all other decisions up to the people they've hired.
 

GopherGrit said:
Well, this is why I was careful to make a big separation between what being a great owner is about, and then the tough but very limited (hopefully) decisions that ownership makes.

Ownership decisions should be limited to hiring an executive team, a general manager, and a head coach. They should leave all other decisions up to the people they've hired.
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3 Playoff wins in 20 seasons during the Wilfs stewardship. Pathetic. Zero NFC Championships.

In just 7 seasons under McCombs reign, they actually won more Playoff games. 4.

The people the Wilfs have hired have failed. That's not even remotely close to great ownership.
 


I don’t understand coaches these days. Eschewing field goals (Dolphins/Commanders), going for 2 early in games (I'm looking at you Bengals) and going for 4th in own territory. Convinced they don't pay off enough to make them worth it.
 

TNGophfan said:
I don’t understand coaches these days. Eschewing field goals (Dolphins/Commanders), going for 2 early in games (I'm looking at you Bengals) and going for 4th in own territory. Convinced they don't pay off enough to make them worth it.
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I wish PJ woulda tried to punch it more often against the ducks.
 





TNGophfan said:
Wouldn't go that far, but something's missing there.
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I realize this fan base has a limited/bad experience breaking in highly drafted QB's, but writing him off in the middle of the 5th game is ridiculous.
 

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